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RE: is it possible - 4/13/2007 7:39:10 PM

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That was pretty unnecessary.

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RE: is it possible - 4/13/2007 8:08:26 PM

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Master Fire pretty much said succinctly exactly my first thoughts when I read this. And I adored Puella's thoughts as well. But I have an additional thought I'd like to offer up. It was explained to me many times over at the outset of my exploring this. When a submissive is taken in by a dominant, she is giving over to him (forgive the gender specificity) responsibility for her well being to whatever extent. Otherwise, that responsibility for her own well being should be her first priority. If he gives that back to you or doesn't accept it, or fails to keep it, I think it's important to accept that.

So the question I think really is more about how best to see to your own well being right now, and to accept that it may be time to mourn the profound loss but to also prepare to move on.

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RE: is it possible - 4/15/2007 3:58:16 PM

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To be honest, i couldn't for the simple reason that i'd never trust him again not to order me to leave. Walking around on egg shells is a horrible way to live -- speaking as one who's been there, done that (and offers the t-shirt and hat to others..lol)

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RE: is it possible - 4/15/2007 4:39:37 PM

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Dear 2servemymaster, Ladies and Gentlemen;

I can only speak for myself. The only consideration of taking a slave back is; when there was a break in service due to family situations, e.g. care giver for parents or death, long illnesses, military service overseas and or extreme circumstances that is out of both of our hands.

If it is for a trust issue, conflict that disturbs the peace of my house, household, friends, training, teaching, presenting and the like; once I release a slave it is for good. I do have a lot of patience with people and when I make a decision--I stick to my guns (whips, canes and everything else.) I rather be alone and happy then have a slave in service who makes me miserable. And, I will add--some slaves became miserable because they found slavery under me was not all fun, dungeon time and sexual fantasy. I am happy to release them when they beg release and they will not be considered again. I don't put slaves through anything I haven't done myself double the demand.

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RE: is it possible - 4/15/2007 5:02:18 PM

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I found myself in the same situation not long ago. I was released really through no fault of my own. What I found out was this, that although he will always be an important part of my training, and I will always care deeply for him and hold his memory close in my heart. I cannot live with the uncertainty of being released again. Therefore it would be too hard to have the absolute trust that is neccessary to completely commit.

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RE: is it possible - 4/18/2007 7:47:19 PM

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There is something in him that i just cannot explain. He inspired me to do things that i could never have done on my own, he also inspired me to submit in ways that i would never and never have to anyone else. And i promise that if you heard his voice you too would melt like butter on a hot burner.
i have never had feelings like these for anyone. And yes, i have tried talking with other Masters/Doms but i just don't get a feeling like i did when i first talked with him. i have tried every way i can think of to move forward but it just does not work. And about all i do is cyber role play, merely to pass time.
i just cannot do justice to describing what that man does to me, how he makes me feel. But i do know one thing. If he ever gave me another chance, he would never regret it, not for one second.

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RE: is it possible - 4/19/2007 12:37:22 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hrafnkel

So the question I think really is more about how best to see to your own well being right now, and to accept that it may be time to mourn the profound loss but to also prepare to move on.

I really couldn't agree more. Puella also made an interesting statement too, which reflects a lot of how I see it too.

I would have to agree also with Dominic, in that if I'm going to release someone, it's not a light decision. Even with slaves I've released due to what I percieve as my own failings in some ways, I've not accepted back into my collar.

I do believe the possibility is there, but the probability is slim. To you 2servemymaster, I'd suggest that you attempt to at least understand where he may be coming from. If it's possible, arrange a meeting... Some coffee, lunch, or something similar. Do not go in expecting, as that will set you up for disappointment...

But I, if I felt that way about anyone, would have to say that it starts with some honest open communication about whatever it was that caused the issue. Resolving that issue becomes paramount, and while I'm hesitant to say "at all costs" for some sub/slaves, this might be what it feels like, as they will submit themselves to some serious lessons sometimes.

But that's neither here nor there. I do believe there is a possibility, but it depends on the context of the situation, your character, the character of your Master (or former as the case is here).

Owners, as you can tell... Regardless of your feelings in the matter tend to take these sorts of situations with major consideration. I'd wager he was totally clear on his intent and his integrity in maintaining this situation. But I don't know him.

Communicate. Understand. Accept the situation for whatever it becomes.

On the stance that the sub/slave couldn't trust the Top not to want to release them in the future... Honestly, there's no guarantees there anyway. So what difference would it make? If she is truly happy with him, that risk would be worth it, in my mind.

And it's a risk that's common with ANY M/s relationship.

Peace.

Tora

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