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Are You A Practicing Communist? - 4/15/2007 8:50:29 AM   
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"Are You A Practicing Communist?"
                       by
           Richard McDonald



Here in America today, we Americans pride ourselves as being
staunch anti-communists.   A lot of us think of the communists as
the bad  guys and  the cause of our troubles and that of the rest
of the  world's.  This bad guy must look really bad and we should
spot him  easily in  any crowd.   Let us examine what a communist
really is.

Communism is  a  way  of  life  that  is  contrary  to  most
teachings of  the bible and that of the common law as our beloved
country "The Union of States united" was founded to be.  In 1848,
Karl Marx  wrote the  10 planks of the communist manifesto, which
he copied  from an  article written  by Adam  Weishaupt in  1797.
(This article  was  named  "How  to  change  a  Republic  into  a
Democracy.")   It is the foundation of what communist ideology is
all about.   A  true communist  or  communist  country  would  be
practicing all  these 10 planks.  Today, even here in America, we
are practicing all these 10 planks and we don't even know that we
are, in  reality, communists.   We  would rather  call  ourselves
something else "a Democracy" which is really the same thing.


The 1st Plank: THE ABOLITION OF PROPERTY IN LAND AND APPLICATION
        OF ALL RENTS IN LAND TO PUBLIC PURPOSES.

As in  the old  law of  Moses and  in the first 150 years of
America, when  you owned land, you had absolute title to the land
and no other party can lay claim on it whatsoever unless you sold
the land  or voluntarily  let another party lay claim.  But then,
you had  the  right  to  get  it  back  if  it  would  take  your
grandchildren to  claim it  back.   Today, we  only have what you
call a  99 year  lease.   The state  can confiscate your land for
non-payment of  taxes.   The only reason the state can do this is
that you  don't really  own the  land, as  you are  not  a  State
Citizen, but  in law  you are an alien who is resident within the
state.   The state has controlling interest on your land, and you
are merely paying rent and this rent goes to public purposes.


The 2nd Plank: A HEAVY PROGRESSIVE OR GRADUATED INCOME TAX.

Need I explain this.  We all know that we have an income tax
in America,  and that  the more you make, the more you are taxed.
The income  tax on  the working individual was instituted in 1942
by the  President of  the N.Y. Federal Reserve Bank, Mr. Beardsly
Rumhl, with the backing of F.D.R.


The 3rd Plank: THE ABOLITION OF ALL RIGHT OF INHERITANCE.

In the  old law of Moses and the first 150 years of America,
there was  no inheritance  tax.   In the  law of  Moses, land was
transferred to the eldest son absolutely.  In the first 150 years
in America,  inheritance and/or  your assigns  was also absolute.
There were  no third  parties involved.  A marriage license makes
the state a third party to the marriage.  If you are an alien you
cannot have  the right  of descent.    Thus,  the  state  has  an
interest which must be paid when one dies.


The 4th Plank: THE CONFISCATION OF THE PROPERTY OF ALL EMIGRANTS
        AND REBELS.

Some people  are beginning  to find out about what is really
going on.   They  are beginning  to rebel  against the communists
controlling the  government and  in the  process, SWAT  teams are
sent against  them.   Businesses are closed down, homes are taken
from then  and they  are put  out on the street.  Their wages are
taken from  them, so they cannot sustain the necessities of life.
All because the IRS controls the lifeblood of all the citizens of
the District of Columbia.


The 5th Plank: CENTRALIZATION OF CREDIT IN THE HANDS OF THE
        STATE, BY MEANS OF A NATIONAL BANK WITH STATE
        CAPITAL AND AN EXCLUSIVE MONOPOLY.

This brings  us straight  to the Federal Reserve Bank.  This
is a  private bank,  not a governmental agency.  The basis of the
federal reserve note is credit which is the reason it has no gold
or silver backing.  The government borrows these notes to pass on
to the  people to use, and pays interest in gold or silver to the
foreign communist  owners of the bank.  In the first 150 years of
America, people  used gold  or silver coins as currency, they did
not have to pay interest to anyone for their use.


The 6th Plank: THE CENTRALIZATION OF THE MEANS OF COMMUNICATION
        AND TRANSPORTATION IN THE HANDS OF THE STATE.

This  is   accomplished  by   the   Federal   Communications
Commission which controls, regulates and licenses all newspapers,
magazines; radio  and television  stations who  are in  local  or
national networks  in a  corporate capacity.   Transportation  is
controlled  through  the  use  of state vehicle registration  and
licensing of the owners.


The 7th Plank: THE EXTENSION OF FACTORIES AND THE INSTRUMENTS OF
        PRODUCTION OWNED BY THE STATE AND THE BRINGING INTO
        CULTIVATION OF LAND AND THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE
        SOIL GENERALLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH A COMMON PLAN.

Factories are  all controlled  by the government by means of
permits and  licenses.   Various other  agencies like OSHA, labor
boards, unions  all regulate  the businesses.  Smaller businesses
are extensions  of these  factories because  they are franchises.
Farms are  told which crop to plant and are sometimes paid not to
plant.   Farms are  controlled by  various governmental  agencies
like Soil  Conservation Districts,  Bureau of Land Management and
Desert Land  Entry Act,  where government owned land is leased to
corporate farmers.  Like the Imperial Valley in San Diego.


The 8th Plank: EQUAL LIABILITY FOR ALL TO LABOR AND
        THE ESTABLISHMENT OF INDUSTRIAL ARMIES,
        ESPECIALLY FOR AGRICULTURE.

Equal liability  is established through Social Security, and
forcing women  to work  to support  the family, as the man cannot
earn enough  to support  his family.   Most  are  members  of  an
industrial army  through this number because you cannot get a job
without this number.


The 9th Plank: THE COMBINATION OF AGRICULTURE WITH MANUFACTURING
        INDUSTRIES AND THE GRADUAL ABOLITION OF THE
        DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TOWN AND COUNTRY BY THE
        MORE EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF POPULATION OVER THE
        COUNTRY.

Regional government  under control of the federal government
who are  under the  direct control  of foreign bankers.  In other
words, "ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT."


The 10th Plank: FREE EDUCATION FOR ALL CHILDREN
         IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS

Need this  be explained?   Even  private and  church schools
must obtain  a license and teach a state approved courses.  These
all  teach   humanistic  principles,  not  reading,  writing  and
mathematics.  They are taught to be good slaves to the government
and ask  for a  license (permission)  before doing  anything.  In
fact, 6th and 7th graders are taught to fill out income tax forms
by the  IRS.   They are  taught that  the government will support
them, if they do what they are told, and do not ask questions.


NOW, ARE YOU A PRACTICING COMMUNIST?

http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/mcdonald/blt3.htm


So are you?  Are we?  US?  UK?  Anyone else?




How many times a day do we hear in the media over and over and from people that "we live in a democracy"


So i think i will add:

AN UNDERSTATEMENT:
THE FOUNDING FATHERS HATED DEMOCRACY
By Doug Newman
August 10, 2005



TB writes:
"My son and I have a running argument going and I'm hoping you will help me clear this up. He says we are not a democracy but a constitutional republic, and I say we are indeed a democracy. Today the nominee for Supreme Court justice, John Roberts, said he was appreciative for the court's role in this constitutional democracy. Seems like he should know what we are, right? Can you help me explain all of this? And settle the argument?"

TB,
Thanks for writing. In the beginning America was a constitutional republic. Then we degenerated into a democracy.

Let me explain.
It would be an understatement to say that the Founding Fathers hated democracy. They warned against it vehemently and relentlessly.

They equated it – properly – with mob rule.
Someone far wittier than I once remarked that, in a democracy, two wolves and a sheep take a majority vote on what’s for supper, while in a constitutional republic, the wolves are forbidden on voting on what’s for supper and the sheep are well armed.

Neither the Declaration of Independence nor the Constitution even contains the word “democracy.”

In a democracy, the majority rules and individual rights are irrelevant. If the majority votes that half of your income be confiscated before you can even by groceries, oh well.

If the majority votes that you must educate your children in a certain location because you live on a certain side of an arbitrary line, oh well. If the majority votes that you must be disarmed and defenseless against violent criminals, oh well. If the majority votes that your religion be designated an “outlaw religion” and that you and all other practitioners be committed to mental institutions, oh flipping well.
(And this is what our political, economic and media elites want to export across the globe?)

The Founders knew democracy would inevitably degenerate into despotism. There is a great

the rest:  http://www.geocities.com/fountoftruth/hated.html





So that said what are we folks?

How about the uk?  Hows things doing there?

Why would the ME want this?





< Message edited by Real0ne -- 4/15/2007 9:25:57 AM >


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RE: Are You A Practicing Communist? - 4/15/2007 10:53:32 AM   
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Real0ne,

My initial impression is that the author doesn't understand communist ideology.

Communism is essentially an ideal that aims to remove the need for government. According to communist ideology, people only need government because we have been conditioned to see others as adversaries, and thus people fight over resources. This leads to crime, anti-social behaviour etc. This leads to the need for government to manage law and defence.

The idea behind communism is this: the people take over the running of the country, they smash class structure and privilege, people revert to their natural state and co-operate, then there is no need for government because there is no antagonism.

Communist doctrine is concerned with no government, rather than defering all power to government i.e. government is a temporary measure.

Is Britain and the US communist? far more fascist than communist as follows:

1) Communism is an international movement which preaches solidarity among workers all over the world, whereas fascism aims to make the nation "great", through conquest.

2) Communists do not believe in corporations and the media running the show. They would see this as creating new kings and lords. Communists believe in power to ordinary people.

3) Communists do not believe in a market society which is essentially a survival of the fittest approach. They believe in equality.

Democracy and communism have some common ground e.g. equal opportunity, but they are not one and the same e.g. Communists advocate temporary state control of resources, whereas democrats value private enterprise

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RE: Are You A Practicing Communist? - 4/15/2007 11:16:09 AM   
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I lost a quote from a radical here somehow when I posted, but the thing is that many in this country are moving towards Communism without even realizing it. 

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RE: Are You A Practicing Communist? - 4/15/2007 10:14:56 PM   
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NG you might want to look at this.....


QUESTION 16: How do you think the transition from the present situation to community of property is to be effected?
ANSWER: The first, fundamental condition for the introduction of community of property is the political liberation of the proletariat through a democratic constitution.


Actually i think we are a mixture of many ism's, but do you that evil word democracy again?  you may find this link interesting

http://www.historyteacher.net/APEuroPassword/Reading-CommunistConfessionOfFaith-Engels.htm



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RE: Are You A Practicing Communist? - 4/16/2007 12:15:46 AM   
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I do not think that there has ever been a truly communistic modern society. There have been some small scale ones that functioned quite nicely, but no large scale ones.

We function better as human beings socially in smaller groups... ever ask yourself why an army unit is the size it is? Because it is the perfect size for bonding without degenerating into problems with too many personalities.

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RE: Are You A Practicing Communist? - 4/16/2007 1:03:11 AM   
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"And to the Republic for which it stands"
 
So forgotten that I have found Myself trying to remind people of that for a few years now.

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RE: Are You A Practicing Communist? - 4/16/2007 7:02:38 AM   
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well- the world at least made sense during the cold war.

now here we are-

russias experiment with comunism came after gross- robberbarrons- controlled all the wealth.

that section of the globe has seen alot of bloodshed.

illd surmise it is a fair assesssment to say- many in America view the USA in disarray right now.

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RE: Are You A Practicing Communist? - 4/16/2007 7:12:40 AM   
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America was staunchly "anti communist" b/c we didn't want rival political groups alligned with the USSR messing in foreign markets and nationalizing MNC assets. We were also anti communist because our politicians always need someone to demonize and protect us against.

In sum, anti communist fervor had more to do with foreign policy and defense spending than it did with domestic policy.

Many of the things Karl Marx predicted in the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO have happened all around the world in various political systems including the USA. (Universal education, emancipation of women, child labor laws, and a Progressive income tax to name a few.)

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RE: Are You A Practicing Communist? - 4/16/2007 8:46:34 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Many of the things Karl Marx predicted in the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO have happened all around the world in various political systems including the USA. (Universal education, emancipation of women, child labor laws, and a Progressive income tax to name a few.)



I was listening to a documentary on the BBC world service about a month ago and it was saying that just about all reforms socialists were fighting for in 1900 have been won, including in the USA. It's not a revelation when one thinks about it.

Most of the scare propaganda put around today is by special interest groups wanting to press their agenda rather than there being any real ideological enemy.

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RE: Are You A Practicing Communist? - 4/16/2007 10:24:27 AM   
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I thought Communism was supposed to lead to the Dictatorship of the Proletariat, which probably  means just what you want it to mean and any stop in between.

So my attitude is lets all co operate and do what I say lol
Freedom and Justice for all. That should be straight forward.
Just give me a couple of millenia to work out how to bring it about.
err lets see now, one mans Freedom is another mans lLcence err
one mans Justice is another mans Tyranny
no wait a minute...start again.....

Fair shares for all...hey that lazy bastard over there wants his share without making any effort to earn it and that sod over there tried to pinch my share...thats not working  err lets have another go and so on ad infinitum until it  the imperfectability of the human spirit is finally acknowledged by all idealistic idealogues.

Wait a sec. is that not the core belief of New Testament Christianity ? lol


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