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NeedToUseYou -> RE: Credibilty (4/15/2007 4:24:31 PM)
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
What has caused you to reject something you believed to be true? Made you close your mind to something you were open to?
I've been thinking about this lately. I used to believe that a solution could be found for the world. One in which at least the large majority of the people could agree on.
Over the past few years, of becoming even more economic, and politically aware. I've abandoned that notion, which is a common solution for people can work. The reason for that is there is only one constant between most any group, and that is that of self-benefit. Each group of people whether that be, Democrats,Republican,Black Panther, KKK, Wal-mart,Tyson Foods, Mexico,US, UK, EU, Catholics,Christians, Global Warming Enthusiasts, Socialist, Capitalist,Family, etc...... The underlying premise of most groups is promotion of themselves and their gain, whether that be monetary, political, or social power. No group I'm aware of rallies for policies that would be a detriment to their membership. Hence, Every group rallies for policies that they perceive would "benefit" their group. Which leads to the conclusion that almost all cause based people are "self-interested", and only join a cause out of motivation for some form of personal gain.
Examples:
The poor want more taxes to the wealthy(self-interested), nothing more.
The rich want less taxes to the wealthy and more fixed tax rates despite income(self-interested), nothing more.
I've noticed most severe Global Warming people are also anti-corporate(self interested), nothing more.
I've noticed racial advocacy groups, only get upset when it is their race being persecuted(self-interested),nothing more.
Religious groups tend to protect the flock, at the detriment of their professed ideas(self-interested), nothing more.
Now all that being said, I'm sure there are some groups that would fulfill the non-self-interest criteria. But these are so outnumbered by the self-interest groups as to be inconsequential on the National scale.
So, why does this destroy my view that people can somehow come to a common ground. Well, what it says to me, is that people in the vast majority of cases, will only "Join" a group or be "Active" in promoting change when it serves their "own" self-interest.
Thus, my conclusion is the vast overwhelming majority of people aren't concerned with fair, or equitable solutions, but with ones that support self-interest at least when it entails more than lip service.
I'll admit I'm more focused on groups that are political, or economic in nature. I'm not really interested in charities, as those groups goals aren't usually to effect government or economics. I'm speaking of change motivated groups. Change in government, economics, or social upheaval.
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