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Libido enhancers that work - 4/17/2007 10:56:05 AM   
cjenny


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Status: offline 		In a world filled with Viagra pills and estrogen creams loaded with potential side effects are there things that 'you' have tried from the more natural side? Not oysters... but ways to increase not just the sexual drive but also the sexual reaction. I need to find something that is compatible with the medication I take (which has caused the RIP of my sex drive). Ohboy that was not easy to ask!!

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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/17/2007 11:18:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe pampering yourself with a tub bath, some special lotion and mastrubating daily will help jump start your libido and get you back in the swing of things.
Other than that the only thing I can recommend at all would be vitamine C & B12 as the boost your emotional balance.
Sorry things are in a down swing in your sexual desires, but I bet you'll be back in no time.
suzanne

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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/17/2007 11:18:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not sure if it works for women but for many men 400 IU of vitamin E daily is very helpful.  It usually takes about a week or so to see the improvement. 
 
I'd also suggest you have your testoserone level checked.  If it's low your sex drive will be also. 
 
Yes women have levels of testostorone as men have levels of estrogen <wink>

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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/17/2007 11:21:13 AM   
cjenny


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Status: offline 		Its more um.. I'm trying to find a way around the side effects of a multitude of medications. Something.. natural hopefully but something that maybe can change my body chemistry? Ugh does that even make sense lol?
My meds killed my sex drive (RIP orgasms) and dang it I want to find a way around it! Yes I've asked my doctor but I really dont want to nor can I afford more prescription solutions.
Thankies suzanne

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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/17/2007 11:42:21 AM   
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My meds killed my sex drive (RIP orgasms) and dang it I want to find a way around it! Thankies suzanne

You are most welcome cjenny.
If it's you still have desire, but just can't seem to get off try a rabbit dildo.
It's one that has a nice sized cock and a nub about three inches long with ends like rabbit ears.
Having it gyrating and vibrating deep inside whie it's directly stimulating your clit is very intense.
It's the first toy I ever could actually reach orgasm with.
If it's just you can't pop a nut these sorts of dildo's
http://nightdreams.xxxshopadult.com/details.link/tid/883614/toys/Waterproof-Jack-Rabbit-Vibe.htm
will fix you right up.
Try that and a very aggresive porn movie.
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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/17/2007 11:59:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi this may sound silly but when I lost mine my friend said the best cure is to actually do it anyway and it soon comes back.  That may not help you in your case if its meds that are causing it. But I found that gettin my partner at the time to blindfold me set the room nice with candles after a long bath and spent ages just touching and stroking me, we didnt have sex for a week just did that everynight  teased it out so to speak. By the end of the week I was gagging for it 
I hope you find your mojo soon I hate it when I misplace mine :)


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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/17/2007 3:11:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I get to where I don't want it because of things making us where we can't usually just doing it will help, but masturbating daily could help also. It is according on if you just don't feel like it but can still orgasm with the right 'touch'.

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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/17/2007 4:42:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, it is the meds. Thats why I was hoping someone could suggest.. oh I dunno heh. I see stuff advertised that promise super sensitivity and such, just wondered if any of that worked.

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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/17/2007 4:53:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		cjenny, i have tried a few of those female sensitivity "enhancement" products in the past, when i was with vanilla partners who were offended if i didn't show some visible sign of arousal. nothing ever worked. truth be told the only thing i've ever found effective in that department have been drugs of the illegal variety. if you'd like to know which ones, just send me a note on the other side.

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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/17/2007 5:07:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		You might try Damiana. It's an herb, drunk as a tea, with a tonic effect that often helps to improve one's response to physical stimulus. Some people liken it's effect to marijuana; I can see where they might draw the parallell, but I don't agree with that assessment (on the other hand, as with anything of this sort, individual reactions may vary wildly). You might want to check with your doctor just to make absolutely sure that it won't interact with your medication, but I don't think it will. When I've tried Damiana, it's main effect seemed to be a vague sense of euphoria, and improved awareness of my body as a whole. It did make tactile sensation more pleasant. Once again, as will al things of this sort, your mileage may vary.

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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/17/2007 5:16:42 PM   
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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/17/2007 7:29:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Do be careful of herbs that can interact with your meds - even though natural, there can still be troubling interactions.  Be especially careful of things like St. John's Wort, which is a surprisingly potent herbal - works great for depression and other issues, but interacts with a lot of Rx medications.
 
I personally find when I am *trying* to have an orgasm, that is when it is most elusive.  Just relax and try to have as much sex (or masturbation) as possible - your body will relearn what it wants, and even if no orgasm, well, it's fun trying, right? Enjoy the journey on the way to your ultimate destination.

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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/18/2007 2:57:07 AM   
cjenny


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Status: offline 		Thanks everyone, especially daddysprop... that is exactly what I was trying to ask! The sensitivity creams n such, I had a feeling it was all nonsense but a gal can always hope eh?

I absolutely ask my doctor before using anything that hasn't been prescribed but thankyou for the suggestion, a lot of people don't realise that just cuz it is 'natural' doesn't mean it may not be contraindicated.
Thanks!

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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/18/2007 4:46:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've found that yohimbe/yohimboids (depending on the market) works . Its a west African "herb". (actually a tree bark decoction).  Its available at herbalist/organic/granola/nutrition type stores here in North America. (I get mine at GNC, if that helps). The active agent (sorry, i cant remeber what it is right now) acts as a vasodilator, thus promoting erections, and general sexual engorgement. ITRW, this means it makes me harder then Chinese algebra, but yer mileage may vary. Also, I've has a S.O. or 2  (female) try it too, all with positive results.

Now that being said, beware of the side effects.....
Its a potent "upper" so dont plan on sleeping for at least 16 hours after taking it.
It spikes your heart rate and BP for this time, so if you have cardiac issues....avoid
and just generally, it makes me jittery and chaotic, but in a kinda fun way.
I wouldnt recomend taking it a lot, but thats mostly because i find the "speedy" effects kinda annoying, but its certianly fun for "special occasions"

DISCLAIMER: these are just my stupid thoughts on a subject I'm only qualified to comment on if I'm the consumer....YOUR MILEAGE WILL VARY. Research before you try anything new, and be willing to accept the repercussions of any and all outcomes of your actions.

EDIT: spelling, I'm sure I missed more

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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/18/2007 6:36:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I haven't a clue about "natural" substances.

Yohimbine, someone mentioned, has the same effect as reboxetine (Edronax) and atomoxetine (Strattera), as I recall. Nitrous patches or gels also provide vasodilation, IIRC.

More to the point:

Survector (amineptine). You can get this by special application. It's schedule 2, I believe. Has been known to cause spontaneous orgasms. Dopamine reuptake inhibitor. Mood elevating properties, libido-enhancing and highly effective against depression.

Intrinsa (testosterone). This is a patch with 300µg testosterone pr 24 hours. Not enough to cause virilization, but enough to cause a significant increase in libido.

Also, another product, a cream, will be coming out soon. It was an artificial tanning agent that didn't work. Oddly enough, a commonly reported side effect was sexual arousal and persistant increase in libido. Someone drew the appropriate conclusion, and tests are now underway.

Apart from that, I could perhaps give more specific advice if I knew what other meds you were on, and for what, but that's a topic for a PM, I'd figure.


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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/18/2007 7:49:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		"There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women...among these is the Mercedes-Benz 500SL" - Lynn Lavner

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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/19/2007 5:21:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Without knowing the specific medications causing the problem it is difficult to present any meaningful suggestions.

However, there are some classes of medications that produce the problem.

One of the most common are the class of antidepressants called "selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors" or SSRIs. Fluoxetine (Prozac), paroxetine (Paxil), and sertraline (Zoloft) are some of the most used.

Some recent studies have indicated that sexual side effects occur in some 40-80% of people taking SSRIs. The most common are the inability to experience orgasm, erectile dysfunction, retarded ejaculation marked by erection but no orgasm, and significant drops in desire.

The "dopamine reuptake inhibitors" or DARIs are another class of antidepressants and include bupropion (Wellbutrin) and phenmetrazine (Preludin).

The DARIs have a much lesser effect on sexual matters and Welbutrin is even marketed with the slogan "... has a low incidence of sexual side effects."

Moreover, since dopamine is a neurotransmitter linked to pleasure and desire, some people taking DARIs actually reported increases in desire and stronger orgasms.

Some people experiencing problems with SSRIs are taking smaller doses of DARIs to counter the sexual side effects.

Others have shifted totally away from the SSRIs to the DARIs.

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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/19/2007 5:36:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I know the meds I take to improve blood flow to my lower legs sure makes my penis jump,the doc says take 3 times a day and DIANE  is says no no once a day is fine smiles..bounty..ps the medications is lyrica 150 mgs


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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/19/2007 10:39:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Petronius

Without knowing the specific medications causing the problem it is difficult to present any meaningful suggestions.


Definitely.

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However, there are some classes of medications that produce the problem.


More classes than you'd think. SSRIs, TCAs, mood stabilizers, antipsychotics, etc.

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The "dopamine reuptake inhibitors" or DARIs are another class of antidepressants and include bupropion (Wellbutrin) and phenmetrazine (Preludin).


And amineptine (Survector), which is the most selective DARI. Usual dose is 3 tabs a day, I think, while the highest recorded long-term dose was several packages per day, with no ill effects, unless you consider getting high (from several hundred tabs a day) a bad thing.

Women are the most likely to abuse DARIs, apparently.

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The DARIs have a much lesser effect on sexual matters and Welbutrin is even marketed with the slogan "... has a low incidence of sexual side effects."


DARIs are pretty universally sex-positive.

Bupropion (Wellbutrin) is not a DARI, but rather a Norepinephrine-Dopamine Reuptake Inhibitor, which is an entirely different beast.

For sex-neutral, the RIMAs are a better choice.

The Emsam patch is sex-positive.

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Moreover, since dopamine is a neurotransmitter linked to pleasure and desire, some people taking DARIs actually reported increases in desire and stronger orgasms.


Or, for amineptine, occasionally spontaneous orgasms.

Dopamine agonists are the usual choice to manage sexual dysfunctions of this sort, however. For instance cabergoline (Cabaser, etc), which has been known to shorten the male orgasm refractory period to approximately nil in some people, as well as giving heightened libido in women, although it will inhibit lactation.

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Some people experiencing problems with SSRIs are taking smaller doses of DARIs to counter the sexual side effects.


Lots of people are mixing SSRIs with lots of other stuff, not just DARIs. Most of the time, it is because the doc is more comfy with stacking stuff than switching meds.

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Others have shifted totally away from the SSRIs to the DARIs.


Which is not a good idea. If you respond well to an SSRI, you should not drop it until you achieve remission.

And universally trying DARIs is no better than universally trying SSRIs. The docs have little clue what does what, although the research does have some predictors, if one takes the time to read it.

Roughly speaking, you have four main classes of depression that aren't comorbid to something else:
  • Responds best to SSRIs.
  • Worsened by SSRIs, improved by mood stabilizers, anticonvulsants or (much more rarely) antipsychotics.
  • No effect from SSRIs, improved by DARIs, NARIs, Wellbutrin, some TCAs, CNS stimulants, etc.
  • Little effect or some worsening from SSRIs, little effect from NARIs, TCAs etc, some effect from DARIs, CNS stimulants, etc., good response with MAOIs.
Anyway, that's overly simplified, of course. I'm trying not to get into writing hundreds of pages on this stuff in my posts. At least not quite yet.

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RE: Libido enhancers that work - 4/21/2007 5:55:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Petronius and Aswad thank you both for the information, there is always more for me to learn. Yes it is the SSRI, Zoloft that is causing it.. 150mg per day. I don't 'think' the Morphine Sulfate is causing it but it certainly could be a contributor. Yeah I know doctors hear it all but I am not comfortable asking him for help on this part, and I really don't want to have to go through the chore of changing medications. Aside from the libido (may it rest in peace, *sniffle lol*) we have finally found a combo of stuff that works for the rest of me. Not so sure I want to tamper with that.
I will be researching the suggestions left here by all, and my thanks again to all of you. It sure is nice to be able to have a place where I can ask embarrassing stuff

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