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RE: hepatitus exposures without consent - 4/21/2007 10:59:19 AM

juliaoceania

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Perhaps someone with a health condition that would lower their natural immunity to pathogens such as these should take responsibility for their own health and get immunizations when possible for such bugs instead of worrying about someone transmitting them via any sort of vector, be it blood in a dungeon or a hot tub.

Frankly, I know diseases like these are out there, if I have a problem with risks associated with an activity (such as sharing a hot tub), I do not engage in that activity. I do not use hot tubs, unless I am taking a soak with intimates... such as my sister (who has one). It seems rather much to expect others to look after my health.

Before I engage in sexual relations with a new partner without a condom we exchange testing information. In the present relationship I now enjoy I can exchange fluids because of this. I have an IUD, if I come into contact with certain diseases they could kill me easily because of this... it is up to me to make sure the health practices I engage in protect me. Life is a risk, we take calculated risks based upon available information. If I had a strain of hep, I would look at my lifestyle choices and ask the doctor which behaviors I should exercise care in partaking of. If my doctor stated I could swim and go into a hot tub without risking others, I would do that without informing them of my status because I had taken due caution in finding out if I was a risk to them. If their health status was so fragile that they could die from hot tubbing, they should exercise their own due caution and not go into a hot tub with people that could injure them... many people have health conditions and pathogens and are completely unaware of these conditions.... people need to CYA

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RE: hepatitus exposures without consent - 4/21/2007 1:38:25 PM

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From the CDC web site:
"Hepatitis A virus is spread from person to person by putting something in the mouth that has been contaminated with the stool of a person with hepatitis A. This type of transmission is called "fecal-oral." For this reason, the virus is more easily spread in areas where there are poor sanitary conditions or where good personal hygiene is not observed.

HBV is spread when blood from an infected person enters the body of a person who is not infected. For example, HBV is spread through having sex with an infected person without using a condom (the efficacy of latex condoms in preventing infection with HBV is unknown, but their proper use might reduce transmission), by sharing drugs, needles, or "works" when "shooting" drugs, through needlesticks or sharps exposures on the job, or from an infected mother to her baby during birth. Hepatitis B is not spread through food or water, sharing eating utensils, breastfeeding, hugging, kissing, coughing, sneezing or by casual contact.
Hepatitis C is a liver disease caused by the hepatitis C virus (HCV), which is found in the blood of persons who have this disease. HCV is spread by contact with the blood of an infected person."

And yes there is a vaccine for A and B.

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RE: hepatitus exposures without consent - 4/21/2007 7:25:52 PM

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greetings onestandingstill,

as far as public dungeon play - granted, i have never been to one, so i am not sure of the safety rules, but if the dungeon itself is unsanitary enough for her to have blood to blood or bodily fluid contact from needle play with anyone other than the people she is playing with - who you said know about her status - i would worry more about the safety of the dungeon itself than this woman's positive status. i have been in hot tubs with hiv positive people before...i have done manicures and pedicures for them...the methods of transmission seem very similar. i never worried about it and i am not hiv positive...personally, i think you might be overreacting a teeny bit.

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RE: hepatitus exposures without consent - 4/21/2007 7:38:53 PM

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Ok boys and girls...GO GET THE HEPATITIS B SERIES OF SHOTS! Somehow, you would think that would be a no brainer, especially for someone with a questionable immune system.

As for public disclosure...umm...that one is iffy...and only if she makes the disclosure herself. Which means that folks talking out of school need to be careful what is said...to whom.

Now, if she truly is a carrier, or infected, she should know better than be playing in a public dungeon...with needles...

Since i am going into the medical profession...i am getting my Hep B shots...and am verra careful about blood and body fluids...

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RE: hepatitus exposures without consent - 4/21/2007 8:13:28 PM

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fadeddreams,

i have my shots! ;)

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RE: hepatitus exposures without consent - 4/21/2007 8:55:33 PM

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What amazes me is the number of people who engage in S/m and assume that no one carries anything (not that sitting in a hot tub is S/m. Was referring to needle play).
I was taught to assume that everyone has hep c and hiv, and take appropriate precautions.
That advice has never left me panicky over potential exposure.
I had my ONE BIG SCARE; that's plenty.

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RE: hepatitus exposures without consent - 4/23/2007 7:24:05 PM

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As a member of the medical profession I have voiced this very concern, "what is my risk of exposure" to one of the area's foremost hepatologists. Especially my concern over having unprotected sex with someone with HepC. His response was "you have about a 1% chance of gettng HepC from sex", and he added he thought that this 1% was either having some pretty rough sex or they were lying about their use of IV drugs. Of course, I don't condone unprotected sex. It is not considered an STD for this reason. Now Hep B is another story. Contact with feces will pass this along. So needless to say no crap in the hot tub. However, if I was worried about my immune system, I would avoid hot tubs. Hot tubs are well documented for breeding bacteria and staph.

I can understand her reluctance to tell anyone given your reaction. Or maybe she has confided in others and they are respecting her right to privacy. HepC positive patients are counseled to be careful who they tell and are encouraged not to disclose to just anyone for risk of job loss, ostracism, etc... It is their responsibility to disclose and their responsibility to take the extra precautions.

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