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YourHypnoMaster -> male New England hypnodom (5/5/2007 1:45:23 PM)

Hey everyone, let's see, what to say, what to say.  Well, just joined earlier today.  As can be told by both the title and by my name, I'm very interested in hypnosis and have hypnotized people before in a couple various ways.  In case there are questions, yes, online text hypnosis is possible, and being hypnotized is only possible if you want it.  Any questions, then feel free to ask me, I don't bite... much...




jezzabelle -> RE: male New England hypnodom (5/5/2007 1:58:11 PM)

Hello from a fellow New Englander [sm=mrpuffy.gif]Welcome to collarme and the forums




MasterMischief -> RE: male New England hypnodom (5/5/2007 6:40:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: YourHypnoMaster
In case there are questions, yes, online text hypnosis is possible, and being hypnotized is only possible if you want it.



...so a matter of faith?




YourHypnoMaster -> RE: male New England hypnodom (5/6/2007 10:36:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterMischief

quote:

ORIGINAL: YourHypnoMaster
In case there are questions, yes, online text hypnosis is possible, and being hypnotized is only possible if you want it.


...so a matter of faith?


As a friend of mine put it: "If you want to be hypnotized, the hypnotist is competent and capable, and you follow his initial instructions, there's nothing stopping you from being hypnotized."

And I've done it with a few people online, then gotten on the phone later with many of them, proving that it worked when I talked with them personally.  Not a matter of or leap of faith by any means.  Some roleplay and are fakes, and one just deals with that when it's discovered.

However, if you come to me saying "I dare you to hypnotize me" with no interest in being hypnotized, then you've already won, you're not being hypnotized, though you may feel a tad more relaxed, that's about it.  Get what I mean?




mydestiny2007 -> RE: male New England hypnodom (5/6/2007 5:33:26 PM)

Hello. I'm a southern submissive. I love listening to MP3 induction files for putting me into a trance like state. Most at the end suggest kinky sex of some sort.
The ones I've found most effective are ones by woman, just suggesting to "Obey"
For whatever reasons I still feel the word "obey" floating around my consciousness
for a couple of days.




PuppyBoy047 -> RE: male New England hypnodom (5/12/2007 7:09:02 PM)

What can u do through hypnososis




curiousexplorer -> RE: male New England hypnodom (5/12/2007 7:30:54 PM)

"In case there are questions, yes, online text hypnosis is possible, and being hypnotized is only possible if you want it.  Any questions, then feel free to ask me, I don't bite... much... "

I'm very curious as to how you think online text hypnosis is possible, and even how you do it? Also I'm curious as to your thoughts on the idea that only a percentage of people are capable of being hypnotised, no matter what they want?

"As a friend of mine put it: "If you want to be hypnotized, the hypnotist is competent and capable, and you follow his initial instructions, there's nothing stopping you from being hypnotized." "

But do your friends ideas match psychology, hypnotherapy, the experiences of people who have tried to be hypnotised, or even have evidence to make it more than a personal anecdote?

"However, if you come to me saying "I dare you to hypnotize me" with no interest in being hypnotized, then you've already won, you're not being hypnotized, though you may feel a tad more relaxed, that's about it.  Get what I mean?"

So the same as spirits and psychic powers it only works with those who already believe it. You are right about one thing, some do roleplay and are fakes.
If all it takes is wanting to be hypnotised, then daring you to do it is wanting you to do it. What you are looking for is people who are easily hypnotised, or can make themsleves believe just about anything. All the ones you can't do, they are in the larger percentage who simply can't be hypnotised, and yes many of those people will dare you as they know the limitations of hypnosis.

"Are we there yet" and "You do realise I'll be asking for a refund if you can't provide the advertised service" are the only results of hypnosis with me, no matter what I wanted or the records or credentials of the person trying. I've also had a couple of friends who were desperate to get onto one of those stage hypnosis shows, and were rejected by the performer because they were not suseptable to hypnosis.

I guess there are different experiences to the relationships between desire, hypnosis and success?




YourHypnoMaster -> RE: male New England hypnodom (5/12/2007 10:54:33 PM)

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"In case there are questions, yes, online text hypnosis is possible, and being hypnotized is only possible if you want it.  Any questions, then feel free to ask me, I don't bite... much... "

I'm very curious as to how you think online text hypnosis is possible, and even how you do it? Also I'm curious as to your thoughts on the idea that only a percentage of people are capable of being hypnotised, no matter what they want?


I've done it, yes.  Hypnosis is all about focus and relaxation, focus and relaxation.  One of my friends who was honestly hypnotized on stage was focused on the singular idea of "I am not hypnotized," the fact that he was focused on a single thing, relaxing, and wanting to BE hypnotized, opened him up to suggestion.  As a sidenote, the only reason he thought he was not hypnotized was because he became *hyper* sensitive to his senses, such as hearing the audience talking, as opposed to blocking it all out and loss of the senses of the outside world.  This happens to some people, it's just rarer than losing all focus on the senses.

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"As a friend of mine put it: "If you want to be hypnotized, the hypnotist is competent and capable, and you follow his initial instructions, there's nothing stopping you from being hypnotized." "

But do your friends ideas match psychology, hypnotherapy, the experiences of people who have tried to be hypnotised, or even have evidence to make it more than a personal anecdote?


The person who said this to me was a friend back in the hometown had studied psychology for a several years, had been in hypnosis for about 2 years with a number of previous patients and subjects (some were casual things he had fun with at home).  So yea, I would assume this matches psychology and hypnotherapy and other peoples' experiences.  I'll be sure to ask if he was BS'ing later >.>

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"However, if you come to me saying "I dare you to hypnotize me" with no interest in being hypnotized, then you've already won, you're not being hypnotized, though you may feel a tad more relaxed, that's about it.  Get what I mean?"

So the same as spirits and psychic powers it only works with those who already believe it. You are right about one thing, some do roleplay and are fakes.
If all it takes is wanting to be hypnotised, then daring you to do it is wanting you to do it. What you are looking for is people who are easily hypnotised, or can make themsleves believe just about anything. All the ones you can't do, they are in the larger percentage who simply can't be hypnotised, and yes many of those people will dare you as they know the limitations of hypnosis.


Yes, there are limitations on hypnosis, but the many I've met personally either believe hypnosis can do MUCH more than it can, and thus get SCARED away from the thought of being hypnotized, or feel it's rubbish, and thus feel that hypnosis can do so little that there's no reason to try.
Perhaps I should use a different wording, such as "Betcha can't hypnotize me," than "I dare you to," as that's what I get more often.  And yea, a person who full out doesn't believe in hypnosis is going to be willing against anything happening.  A person who is skeptical, but honestly has a open mind and willing to try, however, is a different story, though it might take a little longer.

I myself have only been able to be hypnotized once.  The reason: that one person was the only person that could make me relax on their own, no one else has been capable of doing more than making me WANT to relax without actually being able to do so.  I'm a busybody usually, so it's usually hard to get me to actually let myself relax, thus the problem.  I'd let myself if I could.

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"Are we there yet" and "You do realise I'll be asking for a refund if you can't provide the advertised service" are the only results of hypnosis with me, no matter what I wanted or the records or credentials of the person trying. I've also had a couple of friends who were desperate to get onto one of those stage hypnosis shows, and were rejected by the performer because they were not suseptable to hypnosis.

I guess there are different experiences to the relationships between desire, hypnosis and success?


Some could have been worried that they'd do something that they would be against doing on stage, like being made a fool of in front of dozens of friends, and the like?
If you're actually asking "Are we there yet?  How bout now?  And now?" either you've had a bad 'tist or weren't following instructions of letting yourself relax, letting yourself focus, you were obviously getting distracted.  Frankly, I dislike people who distract me from my end result, someone who's already saying "By the way, this is what happens if you fail," tells me "I don't plan on doing anything you say, so you'll make sure I don't lose anything if I don't do anything, right?"

I've had a friend fall into hypnosis in the middle of the audience without actually volunteering, and still doesn't remember a lot of the show (part of it, she was an erotic dancer named "Naomi" because it spells "I moan" backwards, said the most uptight girl I know), so everyone has different experiences

I bet if you look at any point that hypnosis failed in your life, it would point to either a lack of focus, or a focus of the person failing before ya did anything.  Ever hear of the "self-fulfilling prophecy"?  Curiosity, juse being sure, and telling someone "By the way, it ain't gonna work, so I get my money back," are three different things entirely.  Just like with how you'll do with asking a girl out, if you're telling yourself from the start that it's not possible in the least, then you're right.  If you say to yourself "Who knows, maybe...?" then it can, if the 'tist involved are competent enough and the subject actually follows "instructions," so to speak.  By instructions, I mean if he says to take deep breaths, you let yourself do so, not following hypnotic suggestions...




gloriousangel -> RE: male New England hypnodom (5/12/2007 11:13:56 PM)

Hello I have done online hypnosis and yes it does work and the roleplay was good.

Welcome to collar me




TheAuldChief4u -> RE: male New England hypnodom (5/12/2007 11:39:03 PM)

 Can anybody be hypnotised? 
Pretty much. The exceptions are: those who are educationally subnormal or suffering from senility, very young children, hard drug addicts, anybody under the influence of large amounts of alcohol.

Can you make anybody do things they don't want to?
In my opinion, definitely not, but there is considerable conjecture about this. It is often said that hypnosis cannot breach the moral code, though there are therapists and hypnotists who claim otherwise - but of course, we cannot truly know what another person's moral code/values consists of. People will frequently do things they would not normally do, though this does not mean it is something they do not want to do; hypnosis lowers inhibition, so it could be just something that that individual was too inhibited to do in the normal way, even though he/she was not averse to it.

On line inductions with text ?
Well , Yes it is very possible to accomplish this with text. As He said,  if you give full concentration. no music, radio tv  etc .no other chatting, surfing etc. I would also say,  if the hypnotist  is very skilled and a good typist. Cutting and pasting scripts tends to throw off the client and bombards them with a huge im. I started testing the use of text back in 93, along with the use of Grock to run scripts at a  very fast speed.
It has taken with typing text up to 1 hours time to take someone into a nice long trance. So if you wish to be skeptical go right ahead. In this instance common sense and logic prevails and you would find yourself wrong.

Is there anybody who should not be hypnotised? 
To a large extent, it depends on the sort of therapy being applied. Some say that anybody suffering from epilepsy should never be hypnotised, but I have never heard of an epileptic fit being triggered by hypnosis. Where psychotic individuals are concerned, care needs to be exercised and regression/analytical therapy should most definitley not be applied.

Can somebody's mind be too strong? 
No. The stronger the mind the better the ability to focus and concentrate, which makes the hypnotised state easier to achieve. The statement 'My mind is too strong to be hypnotised' is usually based on fear and the individuals who say this are often the best subjects of all! It is not difficult to resist being hypnotised and needs no specific strength of mind at all. It is getting into hypnosis that takes the mental work!

Can you hypnotise someone without them knowing it?
You can, if you have the skills to do so. The use of 'hypnotic language patterns' and pacing and leading body language will do it. But you still could not get that person to do anything with hypnosis that they would not do without it. Hypnosis merely overcomes inhibition and the 'conscious critical faculty' - the part of our thought processes which tends to limit our behaviour or belief system.






YourHypnoMaster -> RE: male New England hypnodom (5/12/2007 11:51:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PuppyBoy047

What can u do through hypnososis


Consider anything your mind controls, then consider what limits you might put on yourself.

Here's some things one can NOT do through hypnosis:
-overcome moral/ethical boundaries (sorry, you're not killing anyone tonight)
-making a truly very dominant personality that hates being submissive into your slave
-inducing complete amnesia (as opposed to just amnesia of the trance itself, very different)
-making you literally forget something important in your life.  You are not forgetting the guy/girl who broke your heart, very sorry.
-making you sense things you've never experienced before and thus cannot imagine.  Example: a girl who never experienced anal sex before will not be receptive to similar suggestions
(some have proven otherwise, such as a woman being able to imagine being a man and her hypnotist boyfriend being a woman by feeling the man's penis and imagining it were attached to her boyfriend, though it only worked for their next sex session and was extremely temporary... sidenote: she came much sooner than usual because by her experience, the one with the male organ always came first, interesting, no?)

Some things that are possible:
-sensory manipulation of things you HAVE experienced, such as tightening of muscles, seeing/feeling nude, or different types of clothing.  People who have experienced orgasms have done been able to have a programmed trigger for such, and thus orgasmed many, many more times than usual because of a trigger that made them orgasm once any time it was used.  Many people have orgasmed once, afterall...
-freeze/amnesia of frozen time period, has been proven by hypnodoms on numerous occassions, as most times a hypnotist enjoys hypnosis for sex play, guess what one of the first "tricks" used is? lol
-therapy: *reframe* of memories (they weren't laughing at you, they were laughing with you, stuff like that)
-therapy: substituting one response with a similar one.  Example: a smoker that smokes to relax, substituting with taking the time it takes to smoke to take a leisurely stroll around the office, or outside nearby.  Generally takes multiple sessions to pull off substituted responses and the like, though
-changes on perspective.  I do NOT believe hypnosis can change a person's body directly, however it can probably make a woman *believe* she has larger breasts temporarily, or perhaps happy with their body, even though no change can physically be made

Hypnosis will NOT accomplish EVERYTHING.  I will be the first one to acknowledge this.  It is also not mind control, no matter how many people are scared it might be, or are hoping it really would be (I say to all the submissives out there that want control taken away completely, it's only taken away if you truly and voluntarily give it away, the hypnotist is a *guide* to your unconscious mind, afterall, kinda like a navigator while you are still very much the pilot).  However, hypnosis CAN do a LOT more than the average public gives credit for.  You want to know specific things hypnosis can do, ask specific questions, as I can't answer a question like "what can it do" directly, really...




YourHypnoMaster -> RE: male New England hypnodom (5/13/2007 12:07:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheAuldChief4u

Can you make anybody do things they don't want to?
[. . . .] People will frequently do things they would not normally do, though this does not mean it is something they do not want to do; hypnosis lowers inhibition, so it could be just something that that individual was too inhibited to do in the normal way, even though he/she was not averse to it.


I'll just say something I say to most people who ask about people embarassing themselves at stage shows:  "Who's actually morally or ethically against clucking like a chicken?  Thank you, I rest my case."

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On line inductions with text ?
Well , Yes it is very possible to accomplish this with text. As He said,  if you give full concentration. no music, radio tv  etc .no other chatting, surfing etc. I would also say,  if the hypnotist  is very skilled and a good typist. Cutting and pasting scripts tends to throw off the client and bombards them with a huge im. I started testing the use of text back in 93, along with the use of Grock to run scripts at a  very fast speed.
It has taken with typing text up to 1 hours time to take someone into a nice long trance. So if you wish to be skeptical go right ahead. In this instance common sense and logic prevails and you would find yourself wrong.


On average, it takes me about 1/2 hour, where my first trance consists of making a trance trigger, which may or may not work FULLY the next time, but it does serve it's purpose of relaxing the person deep enough that repeated usage of the trigger will induce a trance MUCH quicker, down to several minutes.
Obviously, time depends on connection speed, if it takes a full minute or two for a single "back and forth," then it'll be much longer than 20 seconds for a single "back and forth," ya know?

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Is there anybody who should not be hypnotised? 
To a large extent, it depends on the sort of therapy being applied. Some say that anybody suffering from epilepsy should never be hypnotised, but I have never heard of an epileptic fit being triggered by hypnosis. Where psychotic individuals are concerned, care needs to be exercised and regression/analytical therapy should most definitley not be applied.


People showing psychotic conditions, or symptoms thereof, can possibly be made worse though hypnosis, though those showing no symptoms of psychosis will not become psychotic.  "If it's already cracked from the start, it can be broken"?

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Can somebody's mind be too strong? 
No. The stronger the mind the better the ability to focus and concentrate, which makes the hypnotised state easier to achieve. The statement 'My mind is too strong to be hypnotised' is usually based on fear and the individuals who say this are often the best subjects of all! It is not difficult to resist being hypnotised and needs no specific strength of mind at all. It is getting into hypnosis that takes the mental work!


Agreed, I've found that the higher the apparent IQ of the person, the easier they drifted into their hypnotic trance state.  If you consider your will power too strong, then fine, that's about not wanting to be hypnotized.  If you consider yourself too smart, then you're wrong.

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Can you hypnotise someone without them knowing it?
You can, if you have the skills to do so. The use of 'hypnotic language patterns' and pacing and leading body language will do it. But you still could not get that person to do anything with hypnosis that they would not do without it. Hypnosis merely overcomes inhibition and the 'conscious critical faculty' - the part of our thought processes which tends to limit our behaviour or belief system.


I really, REALLY wanna get a chance to try the handshake induction some day, but I never get the chance.  It requires kinda knowing if the person is willing in the first place, and I don't want to be made to seem like a fool, you know?

Online, I have hypnotized people while talking about how people fall into light trances everyday, making them feel like they're in the middle of one of those light trances as I talk to them, then deepening it.  "Hypnosis without someone knowing" is basically just that, taking advantage of a natural light trance and deepening it.




Shanghaid -> RE: male New England hypnodom (5/13/2007 5:50:17 AM)

Welcome to CM,

Your posts are very interesting and I look forward to learning more about hypnosis from them.

Cheers,

SH'd




curiousexplorer -> RE: male New England hypnodom (5/19/2007 9:26:22 PM)

"If you're actually asking "Are we there yet?  How bout now?  And now?" either you've had a bad 'tist or weren't following instructions of letting yourself relax, letting yourself focus, you were obviously getting distracted. "

No, I only got to that stage when the hypnotist started to believe it was working when it wasn't, or when we had gone way overtime and accomplished nothing. The only other option would be to put the hypnotist to one side and wait patiently until they had finished. I could relax and give them as much time as they wanted, but there comes a point when you have to consider the 20% stories have some accuracey. That's where the refund idea comes in, except for party games.
I have no doubts hypnosis can work, but I'm as sure it doesn't work on the entire population. Or even all of the high end of the bell curve, it won't be used as an IQ test.

"I bet if you look at any point that hypnosis failed in your life, it would point to either a lack of focus, or a focus of the person failing before ya did anything.  Ever hear of the "self-fulfilling prophecy"?  "

Sorry, but that doesn't match my experiences. The first time I explored the concept I was very keen to find people who had experienced it and people who could do it effectively. Simple intellectual curiousity. The second time was the possibility for information. While all aspects of my life rely on results, one has to wait for the result to occur before one can decide whether there has been success or failure. The possibility of success was the reason for trying, if I was convinced of failure I wouldn't have sought them out to begin with.

Results are what proves someone right or wrong. And no matter what the result, being skeptical doesn't make one wrong. Skepticism is merely doubt, a respect for proof.
I am skeptical of text hypnosis, or at least the broad application of it. It just seems more target specific? People respond differently to different forms of communication.




YourHypnoMaster -> RE: male New England hypnodom (5/19/2007 10:23:25 PM)

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I have no doubts hypnosis can work, but I'm as sure it doesn't work on the entire population. Or even all of the high end of the bell curve, it won't be used as an IQ test.


Actually, in my experience the contrary.  True, I don't have a person's IQ score offhand or anything, but the more creative, intelligent, and imaginative people among my successes have tended to go under quicker for me, which I would contribute to their higher ability in visualization and focus.

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I am skeptical of text hypnosis, or at least the broad application of it. It just seems more target specific? People respond differently to different forms of communication.


This is definately true as well.
One person I hypnotize online regularly started off taking a while (not so anymore due to being used to it, easier to relax when you've done it before).  She went under almost instantly for someone in person, assuming she wasn't randomly lying for absolutely no reason.  This was what her hypnotist had told her, so one can't say "Well, just because she didn't feel the time pass by..."  Could have been because she's easier to work with tactile inductions (using touch and body movement), or goes much deeper with her eyes closed, than with text-based where the eyes must remain open, although focused.
Another has stated that she took a little while to go under in person with someone, but went under much deeper online.  Whether that is due to the induction style, the communication style, or the freedom and comfortable feeling of being safe on the computer, I don't know.

I'd give examples of previous trance scripts for proof, but that would kinda give the keys to someone else's mind away, and I just don't do that.  I know you're not asking me to, I'm just saying so.




tommie86401 -> RE: male New England hypnodom (6/16/2007 5:55:44 PM)

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AmHypnotic -> RE: male New England hypnodom (1/3/2009 12:53:40 PM)

Excuse me for reviving an old thread, but I am the same person that started this thread, and since this name is new to the forums, I figured re-introducing myself with this same thread was appropriate.  Specifically living in Connecticut, but I figured "New England" would grab more attention than just CT lol.

So, hello again to everyone.  Anyone new to the forums since... well, a long time ago, that would like to speak to me about hypnosis, about erotic hypnosis and D/s usage thereof?  In particular, women, of course, given the erotic nature of this site and whatnot, but I'm willing to speak about the topic with men too.




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