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Munchies - 5/22/2007 4:38:05 AM   
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I just want others opinions on munchies, I have not been to one and thus far not inclined to, after listening to some stories of what happens to some. Like -  others they don’t know doing things like putting a collar on them, saying they are now owned etc and another one said someone followed her to where she lived after she left there etc.
 
I am thinking or hoping that this is not usual or hoping its not, but if I am invited, I would like to go to one at least once, but I have no idea what the protocol is for such events or gatherings, would love a few tales on just general things about munchies.
 I know all are different that is only logical but just peoples general opinions of them.  Down to what is usual as in what goes on if there are discussions some said there are demonstrations which I am not that keen on but are there like people there that make stuff and you can buy fetish wear etc, I don’t really have a clue

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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 5:16:19 AM   
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G’Day ennaozzie We do not know about people following others home or people  being made to put a collar on and being owned but We have been to a few in Brisbane that are more like parties in the vanilla word except all the people there are in the life style and yes often they are couples in a D/s marriage or Domes with their owned subs/slaves and many are also in leather or corsets and other clothing associated with the life style but many others are like Us who does not own anyone that We are able to take but still have always been made feel very welcome and part of it all.
Never has there been any pressure fro anyone to play or to be part of anything that is happening if at all but still able to enjoy seeing what ever being done and no matter what You are no one is made feel other than welcome.
We have been to some that have a theme to them so everyone gets in the mood and dresses to suite that theme but that is about all that is expected and even if someone eis not able to they are not discluded or made feel unwelcome.
Going to one is a great thing and it is never forgotten and often there are things like just open get-togethers for those that are new to it all or never been to these things and held in a public place and so for someone that may be frightened of going to a full on BDSM party can both meet others in the life style and get to know people who are also both new and in it as well.

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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 5:18:22 AM   
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i think like with everything there are good ones and bad ones.  i have belonged to a few munch groups.  the one wasn't very active and though they were great for learning.  the DM was very watchful of those going to it.  the one i belong to now is awesome.  they have the main group then they have other smaller groups that meet for more topics and learning.

in my opinion, depending on what you're looking for and from what i've heard from others some groups are more about teaching and learning and others more about play.  its up to you to decide which interests you most. i also found especially until you get to know people its better to go with someone you trust.  safety in numbers

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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 5:31:50 AM   
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Sounds like good advice to me, thanks and no i wont go to any unless i go with someone i am not the type to go alone when i dont know anyone, but very resuring what both posts have said, thanks for that, i was asked once before to go to one, quite a while ago i think next time i am asked as long as i know the person i will give it a go i reckon.

Thanks for that.

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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 5:39:22 AM   
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To me, a munch is more of a social meeting of likeminded folks in an everyday setting (but then, I dont get out much!) such as a pub. People dress and behave accordingly. You shouldnt have to be on your guard too much above normal social protocol for a much as I understand it, except perhaps if its a mixed environment as it can be in a pub.

What you seem to be describing OP, is more of a party to my mind, where its few holds barred, and people dress and behave according to the setting. Again though, I dont see why anyone should have to go to something like this with fear or trepidation. Manners still apply in my opinion, until and unless some other form of interaction has been negotiated and agreed upon.

Whichever though, its simply not acceptable to just grab hold of someone or to follow them home. I think the question really is in identifying those munches and parties where nutters lurk, and in then leaving them well alone. Plenty enough people who arent nutters to hang out with, without the risks.

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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 5:40:36 AM   
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I was the type to not go alone - but then I ended up assisting at a munch on my first visit because no one else wanted the hassle.
 
There are clique munches and there are open ones.  Most of the whole 'collaring and you are owned' stuff you mention is the whole online horror stories that circulate and have little truth behind them.  Maybe at a private play party, but not a munchMunches are set in (often) public settings - like pubs, bars, restaurents with a meeter and greeter and people you can contact before hand who will help you feel at home.  They are non threatening environments with no dress codes and just the occasional asshole.  But a good munch co-ordinator will have them under control - if they don't then you really wouldn't want to go to the munch ever again.
Again, there is a big difference between a play party, demos and munches. 
 
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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 6:06:32 AM   
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We go to 5 different munches in 3 different states.  We're snowbirds and travel during the year.  All the munches we attend are at public restaurants/bars.  You may or may not eat your lunch or dinner there.....your choice.  It is acceptable to drink only water all evening if you prefer.  I've never heard of anyone doing that collar thing you talk about or any stalking.  Depending on the venue, there may or may not be demonstrations.  The 5 we go to do not have them.  Also depending on the privacy of the venue, people will bring the fetish gear they make and have for sale. 

There are play parties after 2 of the munches, however, if it's your first time to munch you would not be invited.  You have to prove your interest by attending a few munches before being asked to an after munch party. 

By the way, we don't know of any munches that issue invitations.  Since they are in public places, all are invited.  If you feel funny going by yourself, email the person who runs the munch and they will set up someone to be your friend during your first munch

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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 6:06:47 AM   
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Thanks for your answers to what i posted from what i have read i think i lumped munchies, and play parties together did not realise they where two seperate things, thanks so much, and yeah i like to think that manners are not considered out of date.

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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 6:36:11 AM   
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I've been going to munches for a lot of years and recently have been attending alone. I have never seen an instance of the scenarios you describe. They are generally just casual get togethers at a restaurant or bar where people share a meal and some conversation. Normally, to any onlookers the group would look no different than any other group of people in the establishment.

Maybe the collaring thing you are speaking of is a House collar....which is not a real physical collar. Some munch groups will incorporate such a policy so that unescorted submissives feel more comfortable attending. It simply means that if you are there alone the organizers of the group will sometimes let you sit with them, introduce you, be there to turn to if you have any unwanted advances and answer any questions you may have. On the rare occasion that someone may be pushier or more forward than you are comfortable with, a word to those in charge generally will solve the issue.

Also, most munches need no invitation. They are usually groups that meet on a regular basis and are open to all. They are a great way to meet and connect with other people who may share some of your interests and views. If you can overcome the hesitancy regarding going alone the first time, it is likely the last time you will feel that you are "going alone".

Once you attend a few munches it is likely you will start to be invited to a few private play parties. By then you should feel comfortable enough with at least a few people to go and enjoy.



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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 6:53:49 AM   
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i have been going to munches on and off for many years and have never seen anything untoward going on.  i have only one time in my life attended with someone and for the most part have been able to join the discussions etc without feeling too uncomfortable.  i have never heard of anyone claiming property or following someone or stalking or anything else, just dinner, discussion and some have private play party following the actual munch.  i go everywhere alone and have never had a problem.

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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 6:59:39 AM   
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Personally I love going to the munches.  Yeah sometimes there are weirdos and people who don't respect boundaries, but that will happen anywhere, any community.  Take the advice that others have given you on this, and do what you normally do when you go to a bar, remain aware, go with someone you trust, Do not walk to your car alone, even have someone walk your friend and you to the car. Hopefully it is a well lit parking lot. And I have a small can of hair spray, in my purse and a strong mini flashlight on my key chain.  All have helped.

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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 7:04:21 AM   
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i have been to one...it was wonderful.

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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 7:29:16 AM   
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Munch is generally just a bunch of people sitting around eating dinner together.  Lots of smokers.  There will be enough cues to tell they are kinky if you know what to look for, but generally it's just chit chat.

Some groups are better than others in personality, openness.  There will be some mix of people there just to chill/doms there to try and look impressive/subs there to try and look attractive- hopefully the mix will be right for you.

There's a munch group around Austin which I generally like the people involved, but I'm the youngest one there by at least 5 years AND don't have much in common with them.  This is something that rarely happens to me, or at least hasn't happened regularly for quite awhile, so I find it hard to enjoy and likely won't be going very often.  But the group itself is still nice enough and the right temperature for a lot of people.

But really, just a lot of people sitting around eating dinner.  You really shouldn't see anything other than some drink fillings and discreet hair pullings when it comes to expressions of orientation.

And don't worry- we all survived!

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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 9:19:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ennaozzie

I just want others opinions on munchies, I have not been to one and thus far not inclined to, after listening to some stories of what happens to some. Like -  others they don’t know doing things like putting a collar on them, saying they are now owned etc and another one said someone followed her to where she lived after she left there etc.


I have never once seen anything of this sort happen at a SoCal social. The worst thing that has ever happened to me was someone that touched a mark on my upper chest (nowhere near boob) without asking if it was okay first.



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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 9:26:09 AM   
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Munches can vary as drastically as the people involved in them. I have been to munches where I felt completely out of place (they were dressed in full fetwear walking their slaves on leashes) - and I have been to our own local munches where it could have been any vanilla group from the way it looked on the outside - just people with similar interests sharing a meal and lively conversations.

I highly recommend attending one before judging them - and remember that no two groups are the same just as no two people are the same... if one group doesn't suit your style, try a different group.

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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 9:53:01 AM   
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I plan to be heading out to my first as well soon, though I'm waiting on 'arrangements' made by a Dom friend, apparently the group he likes to socialize with posts dates through a subscribed news letter and they interview new attendees?  PALs or something? I have no idea, I just nod and smile. But I think if you could attend with someone you know or trust, if you're nervous about what may or may not go on, having someone you know along always makes a new experience more comfortable.

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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 10:03:50 AM   
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Greetings ennaozzie from across the other side of the ditch :)

munchies?  it sounds as though your pregnant and have a craving for some delicious expensive craving.

On this side of the Tasman, and in many other countries, "munches" are just gatherings, where people will meet in a cafe' or a pub, for a meal or a coffee and a chat.  very low key, no fettish wear normally is worn, in mixed company with wait for it "vanilla" people!  You will not see toys put on tables, you will not see the latest of fettish wear, you will just see, ordinary people, dressed how they may normally be attired for a meal out.  The "subject matter" is often not known by the others in the venue. 

I hope that someone from your region, has mailed your collarme account with details of where the munches are held, and when. 

about going alone, some groups have greeters.   They might meet you outside the venue, so that when they do have a munch gathering, you are not walking through those doors alone.  It can be a tad overwhelming.  Some people are going to be very reserved, because there is a new person "on their patch", but once people know that you do not mean them any harm, you will generaly find, a group of very warming people.  In New Zealand at least, and other countries, you need to go to a couple of munches, or and/or a safety workshop, before being allowed to attend their play parties. 

Play parties are more private affairs.  That is where you will see the fettish wear, and the toys, and Doms and subs "playing".  Where exhibitionism sometimes runs high.  But again, people just being people and being free with their "thing". 

Basically, at a munch table, you could be work colleagues, you could be family, you could be the local secret society organisation.  No one else knows and no one else needs to know.  You will be given the opportunity to meet others who are like minded people and maybe if your lucky you will make a few really good friends along the way. 


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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 10:13:11 PM   
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Hi enna, I have recently moved to Bundaberg, maybe not too far from you? Don't know of any munches in this area as yet, though I am sure there are some in Bris. However, I agree with the comments here based on the munches I attended (and helped to host) in Perth. Generally munches are social meetings in restaurants or pubs, you can eat/drink as much or as little as you like. Fetish wear is usually NOT desirable, the idea is not to draw attention to the group and also not to exclude anyone who may not have such gear. Basic black is always a good fallback! From the outside it looks like a bunch of good friends having dinner together and chatting and laughing! A greeter may well be organised, or if you email the organiser they will keep an eye out for you and introduce you around. Perhaps the only difference from a vanilla gathering is to be careful about asking too many personal questions eg about where someone lives, works etc as people are a bit more guarded about that information for fear of being outed. Don't be too free with that information about yourself either. For example I would say I live "near Bundaberg" but I wouldn't be drawn in to giving more specific information until I felt confident in the person.

We used to also belong to a discussion group that met once a month in the upstairs room in a pub. Again, standard clothes, but a good opportunity to talk with others and discuss particular topics. Being considerate of hotel staff, toys stayed at home, so if we wanted to do a show and tell, we changed the venue to someone's home.

Play parties are entirely different, as someone else suggested, good play groups check out people first and don't issue invitations lightly. In the group I was with, you had to attend at least one munch and talk to some of the established members of the group before being allowed on the email list. Following some postings to the list, which further showed your intentions were genuine, you might be invited to a party. The venue address was NEVER posted on the net, only ever emailed to specific people. This was for everyone's security! you would be sent the information regarding the party and protocols before attending. The only alternative was to be brought by established members who would take responsibility for you and your behaviour. We did, if a sub requested it, offer a House Collar of protection, which meant that no Dom could play with that sub without the negotiations being made with one of the hosts or Dungeon Monitors present, and there to supervise the scene. New subs (and Doms for that matter!) didn't have to play at all, they could just observe within the party protocols, and socialise in the social areas if they wanted. It was a good way for a new person to experience something in a safe and monitored setting. The House Collar lasted only for that night, though if the sub was amenable to giving Us their number, We used to phone them the next day to make sure they were OK and offer aftercare, especially if they'd dropped. While recognising that was primarily the responsibility of the Dom who had done the playing, for example a fem sub might not be comfortable giving her number to a single male Dominant, whereas she felt OK with Us as a couple.

I would urge you to be appropriately cautious and ask questions - hopefully the information in these replies will give you some ideas of what questions to ask - but not be inappropriately fearful. Munches are a great way of meeting people and helping you feel a bit less "odd"! Like all groups there will be some you like and some you don't, but overall I found the benefits far outweighed the negatives.

Good luck!
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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 10:57:55 PM   
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Its good to hear most are just a gathering etc and you just have a feed and talk etc, i will not be going to parties after but i will go to a munchie one day when i find someone to go with, i dont go anywhere to a gathering unless i know someone or it has to do with a job i have to do and i have to, i am just not the type to meet up with a bunch of strangers, and i am happy that i am like that and have no intentions of changing it, but thank you all for your reassurance it has helped me to decied i will go to one of them one day. its just i was interested in actualy meeting with people with similar interests as i dont know anyone but who i have come accross on the net.  As to what they wear and weither you can tell if they are into the BDSM lifestyle while out at these munchies, i dont care what they wear or what they look like its not something i am hiding, sorry if i gave that impresion.

Thanks all for your posts much appreciated

beanie

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RE: Munchies - 5/22/2007 11:03:37 PM   
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You have no fear at all about me giving out info a few general things i will put in my profile but nothing that would track me down, with the work i do on line, i can not afford to be to open with where i am staying and if at any time i actualy say what town i am in, its prob because i am not going to be there to long, and a lot of Doms have dropped off from chatting to  me because i refuse to talk private stuff with a stranger and even then private stuff is for who you might be with, but i try and be open as much as i can and be friendly, and hope i have not offended, thanks for your post

beanie

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