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Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 10:40:44 AM

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Do any other femdoms have a fetish/fantasy of various "knock out" scenarios, where a man is rendered helpless (against his will) via drugs, chloroform, hypnotism, etc? Ever since I was a kid I can remember being fascinated and excited by scenes in TV and movies with a man who is put to sleep against his will (especially if he resisted), and as I got older, it was a tried and true roleplaying game for me. My favorite is using a pair of wet panties and telling my man to pretend it's chloroform and I am knocking him out (this, I learned when I was younger, was a good way to ensure the guy would play along -- after all, the wet panties made it more exciting and erotic to him than just a simple handkerchief).

I have never gone so far as to want to experiment with real drugs of any kind, nor will I ever. But, I still make it a point to drill/interrogate any man when I meet him about whether or not he's been put to sleep by a doctor or dentist, did he resist, and how did it make him feel...oh, yeah, and by the time he is done, when my panties are wet, it makes a nice transition to my suggestion for a little game.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 10:57:53 AM

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I don't know how many femdoms fantasize about this, but I'm one male submissive who certainly does. I wish more women wanted to act out this fantasy.

Actually, I fantasize about almost any scenario in which the woman finds a way to incapacitate me. Chloroform, physical force, cunning and deceipt, seduction, virtually any method, as long as it helps her gain control without needing my obvious willing surrender. The feeling of being taken, without regard to my willingness, is what really creates the excitement for me. When the ability to resist really begins to slip away from me, and she's truly in control whether or not I comply, is an incredible rush.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 11:14:12 AM

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This is definitely a fantasy of mine. What turns me on the most is when I start to wake up & realize the predicament that I'm in. The realization of what happened & that I'm about to be violated & there's nothing I can do to stop it. It's very intense!

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 11:29:52 AM

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Aakasha...

You sure come up with some good ones from time to time. Very erotic!
Oh! May I add possibly waking up restrained and in the pussy collar...???? Yeowwwww!!!!!!

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 12:46:48 PM

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Oh, yes. It's the "helpless and against his will," consensual nonconsensuality part that works for me--whether I do this by threats, blackmail, drugs, or brute force can change. I'm part of a couple ravishment/rape fantasy groups, and I don't find many women who get off on doing the ravishing, so it's nice to see this post, Akasha.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 12:53:42 PM

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Ive consistently wanted a drug males to use for My purposes, whether to render them unconscious or otherwise to manipulate their minds while theyre still able to do useful household (and other) tasks

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 1:54:01 PM

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Mistress Cara,

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I've consistently wanted a drug males to use for My purposes, whether to render them unconscious or otherwise to manipulate their minds while theyre still able to do useful household (and other) tasks.

(Note, the emphasis I've added to your words.)

But of course.

Elan.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 2:15:41 PM

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I love this fantasy. My sub has a worried look on his face, as I'm having him look up ways to render a person (him) unconscious without the use of drugs or toxic chemicals.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 2:36:00 PM

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Ive consistently wanted a drug males to use for My purposes, whether to render them unconscious or otherwise to manipulate their minds while theyre still able to do useful household (and other) tasks

You might like to try a course in hypnosis, Mistress.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 2:54:03 PM

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I always thought the old Batman and Robin series was pretty hot, when the heroes always ended up knocked unconscious and woke up in tight predicament bondage.

Naturally the sorts of scenes involving being tied to a conveyer belt leading to a giant buzz saw, contraptions that flood the building with 100,000 gallons of water containing sharks and pirahnas, umbrellas that shoot poison gas and rocket packs rigged to explode are just a wee bit impractical for the average domme.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 2:58:21 PM

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Kidnapping! What a topic! Great fantasy material and one that I would just love to realize one day. There is something completely erotic about the thought of rendering a boy helpless (with pre-consent, of course), wisking him away to the place of My choosing to keep him and do with him what I wish, until I am done with him. I was telling someone recently that, if I had a club of My own, there would be a very special "kidnap" suite, to give the allure of being taken from one place to another. Probably one of the best role play scenerios going.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 3:11:08 PM

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I always thought the old Batman and Robin series was pretty hot, when the heroes always ended up knocked unconscious and woke up in tight predicament bondage.

Naturally the sorts of scenes involving being tied to a conveyer belt leading to a giant buzz saw, contraptions that flood the building with 100,000 gallons of water containing sharks and pirahnas, umbrellas that shoot poison gas and rocket packs rigged to explode are just a wee bit impractical for the average domme.

Ohh what memories!

I think the influence of "Batman" (tv show) is what shaped some of my kinky urges today, including things like "knock out gas" or predicament bondage. I took so great joy in bondage and helpess situations that were supposed to be "diabolical" -- that's the best word I can find for it. Nowadays, I get incredibly turned on by putting submissive men in situations that could be labeled "diabolical" - mostly, in my head (to him, it might not be a big deal). A good example is when I discovered inflatable gags. That's so much more evil than a normal gag, isn't it It's just...diabolical!

It's funny though how so much of it can go on in my own head but be just as effective. A "penalty box" in ice hockey, for example. A man, in a box, because he was behaving badly? A big, clear, plexiglass box? And he's in there, angry, and breatinng *really* hard? Now *that's* hot. What's diabolical about that? Nothing at all; but I can certainly pretend he's in an airtight chamber with 2+ minutes to hope to get free....

Akasha

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 3:40:03 PM

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Ive consistently wanted a drug males to use for My purposes, whether to render them unconscious or otherwise to manipulate their minds while theyre still able to do useful household (and other) tasks

Well hellooooooooo MistressCara,

i'll be waiting in the trunk Ma'am, and yes, i'll bring the vacuum,

a place for everything, and everything in it's place.

chia* (the pet)

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 4:33:27 PM

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While I love the fantasy of the forcible kidnap, logistically it is difficult. However, luring one into my lair for my purposes........I had a scene with a favorite sub that involved my drugging him with my smelly feet, putting a plastic bag over his head with a hole in it and blowing "toxic"smoke inside until he was "dead" (please do not try this at home kids if you have not done such play before and ALWAYS put a secret airhole in the bag-he'll never know). I got to act completely detached, mean and cruel, WHAT A RUSH! I was very turned on by this, suprisingly so.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 5:23:01 PM

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I like your workaround, AVA. :)

This is one of those super hot-on-paper fantasies that gets me every time. The "she poked me with the needle and I woke up being shaved bare by 3 women with 9 inch cocks in Thailand" genre of fiction is a good one handed read for me.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 5:27:45 PM

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The idea is a great turn on. I`m not sure why so maybe...... Just because !
As for roleplay, i love the idea endless scenarios.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 8:23:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: MistressCara

Ive consistently wanted a drug males to use for My purposes, whether to render them unconscious or otherwise to manipulate their minds while theyre still able to do useful household (and other) tasks

There's a wide variety of pharmacologic means to render someone unconscious, or to render them docile, or a range of other mental states. A lot of these are legally available and can be used in such a way. Some can be obtained from herbs or the like.

PM me if you have any questions about any of that, I generally don't post those details on the public side of the board (unless I forget myself), for a variety of reasons.

O.T.: love the nick, though I must admit I vaguely preferred Denna.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 8:30:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mysia

I love this fantasy. My sub has a worried look on his face, as I'm having him look up ways to render a person (him) unconscious without the use of drugs or toxic chemicals.

Drugs are by far the safest choice.

A suitable dose of phenobarbital should keep him out for hours, but gives a hangover.
That is one of the barbiturates they use when inducing a medical coma.
Barbs work regardless of the effort spent to resist them.
It's also quite safe, if done by the book.

If you want to knock him out quickly, that requires the cooperation of a doctor.
The reason is simply that those drugs are tightly controlled.
Xyrem (GHB) does the trick quite quickly.

I also recall someone mentioning sublingual drops that would kick in over 20 seconds, but the name eludes me, and I am not convinced that would work with someone who was resisting the sedative-hypnotic effects. Personally, I can resist 4mg flunitrazepam, 600mg meprobamate and 16mg buprenorphine at the same time, I found out once, as circumstances suddenly required me to be wakeful and doing stuff. Chalk that up to ADD, I think.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 8:33:42 PM

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what about one of those that just render you paralazed, but still aware? totally coherent of what is happening. you can still feel it all, but cant do a blessed thing about it.

oh my.. cold shower now..

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/21/2007 9:07:54 PM

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Djeez, leakylee...

That's two new fantasies today, the other spawned by the "sleep fantasy" thread. It's been ages since I encountered anything that I hadn't thought about before, and now I end up with two that are even to my liking, in a single day. ~wags tail~

Wonder why I've never considered either, having memorized the effects of every drug used for this purpose from the Rx list in Norway...

But the one about muscle paralysis isn't as easy as the other one, as most drugs that paralyze you will also stop your breathing (in fact, all that are absorbed systemically, if memory serves), which necessitates some kind of assisted ventilation. I think all the ones that can be derived from the plant or animal kingdoms (forget about getting a doc to Rx this for such a use) will stop respiration. In short, something that requires a lot of skill to use, and will still entail significant risk, although it would admittedly be very appealing in theory.

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