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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 10:08:01 AM   
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Can't we all just get along?

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 1:37:22 PM   
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I've read up to the bottom of page 4.  My brain hurts.  PLEASE stop responding with answers like the one right above.  Go out in the real world, find a group in your area, meet some people, get some real time experience. 

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 1:46:11 PM   
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My question to this would be why would a slave/sub think they are good enough to have sex with someone who is far more superior to them?


I have never met anyone who was superior to me (let alone far more superior)  unless you are speaking about employment positions.  As far as one being superior because of gender, race, or physical appearence- no, ain't gonna happen.  A Dominant may have my respect and admiration, but none are superior just because they are dominant. 

Really I'm not trying to be contrary...  this thread just caught me in a mood.  I wish the best of luck to all in their searches.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 1:49:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressSue07

My question to this would be why would a slave/sub think they are good enough to have sex with someone who is far more superior to them?


I have never met anyone who was superior to me (let alone far more superior)  unless you are speaking about employment positions.  As far as one being superior because of gender, race, or physical appearence- no, ain't gonna happen.  A Dominant may have my respect and admiration, but none are superior just because they are dominant. 

Really I'm not trying to be contrary...  this thread just caught me in a mood.  I wish the best of luck to all in their searches.


Agreed.  Self-important statements like that seem to miss the entire point of what I believe is a healthy d/s relationship.  No one ever is superior to another human being, although...the OP does invite criticism....I'm guessing he's wanking over the humiliation personally.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 1:49:55 PM   
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Have to agree with sjacket...100%...what would make a Dominant believe they are superior to a slave/sub?  Especially based only on the fact that they are dominant?

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:00:40 PM   
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Agreed. A Dominant is not superior, but once the negotiations are done, they have the final say. (Unless you count using your feet...)

If I take on a slave, I make it damned clear what will and won't happen. Anyone who assumes they get sex with me just because they belong to me - well, let's just say they'll be disabused of this notion pretty quickly. I have been accused of being an ice queen, but that's just from the boys who don't get to sleep with me. The reality is that it's not that they aren't worthy, but that I already have a mate. I keep multiple boys, but only one is my mate, and I'm monogamous. Does this make me a meanie? *shrug* Maybe!

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:09:57 PM   
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This is my first post in ask a Mistress section.  After reading this thread i have a question - for those who don't have sex with their male subs, do they allow them to find sex elsewhere or are the subs expected to remain faithful.  i suppose the dynamics would differ depending on the people involved - just curious. 

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:12:09 PM   
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The dommes don't care about that, its all about what they want and this is somehow supposed to remain a healthy relationship. A normal person wouldn't stay in one if they were not satisfied.

Not to mention, is a human being normal if they have no feelings for sex? unless they have a bad sex drive.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:17:38 PM   
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There are quite a few people out there in the world who have zero interest in sex, actually.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:19:42 PM   
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Not everyone is cut out for chastity, and when we say 'no sex' each person has a different idea of what that means. Myself, I still engage in pegging, prostate milking, and urethral sounding with my slaves. They are also allowed manual release once a week, if they are well-behaved.

Some people do allow their boys to have sex elsewhere. I don't.

It's not that the boys are supposed to suppress their desire for sex, but rather they turn that energy elsewhere. Besides, many boys live happily for years with only Pamela Handerson for company. In this case they are fulfilled in many other ways. As I say, not ideal for everyone, but it well suits certain people.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:30:04 PM   
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It makes me wonder, do the dommes feel the need to have an orgasm? If their sub is not good enough for it, do they just wait until bed time and play with their vibrators? It must be better than the human touch for them.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:30:18 PM   
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I can have sex anytime I want so, why would I wanna have sex with a sub/slave?


Diane


This statement right here pretty much sums up what I've seen on most sites. I've very dominant, but I browse profiles of any side when I'm bored, just to make myself laugh.

One thing I have noticed, is that typically it can be explained this way. (note all you lovely flamers I said "typically")

"Typically," male doms are mostly about sex and passion and controlling their female slaves' bodies. (Hearts and minds not withstanding of coruse)

"Typically," female dommes are mostly about controlling their slaves' wallets.

No, I don't have figures to back me up, nor am I saying either of those statements is 100% true in every case. However, I can't count the number of 'female doms' I have seen whose profiles say "you will not get sex, you are worthless, you will tribute me at every turn and treat me like a princess."

So.....the woman expects to be treated like a princess...and showered with money or whatever....yet she is unwilling to satisfy a most basic male need? Yeah right. It's medical fact that men need to cum in order to....shall we say "keep the pipes working." Women are built such that they can, should they choose, never ever orgasm and their bits and pieces will be no worse for wear. Men on the other hand have two options....take care of your "needs" or have your body do it for you while you sleep. Personally, I'd rather not wake up all sticky.

Give me an f-ing break. These kinds of 'dommes' are bigger whores than the women who go to clubs without their wallets, knowing full-well that men will buy them everything and they have the almighty power of saying "no" even after the men have showered them with attention all night.

Now certainly I am not saying that women should give it up to any man who buys them a drink. But there are MANY women who will, as I said, go to clubs without their money expecting to drink for free all night. If you aren't interested in the guy, don't let him buy you drinks and think he's getting somewhere. That's what the 'juicy girls' in Korea do. They sit with the GI's all night, drinking $20 drinks and just 'talking' and then the guys get nowhere but flat broke.

I have, in my life, frequently heard women complaining that they don't make as much as a man would in their job. Well, here's the fact, if men have to pay for everything, they should make more.

I can tell I'm winding up to a full-blown rant about women and their antics, so I'll cut this short. For now anyway.

Back to the topic at hand, the simplest answer to why a mistress would be so mean is because she's not interested in your dick, only your wallet. Move on.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:33:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: velvetears

This is my first post in ask a Mistress section.  After reading this thread i have a question - for those who don't have sex with their male subs, do they allow them to find sex elsewhere or are the subs expected to remain faithful.  i suppose the dynamics would differ depending on the people involved - just curious. 


With me, it depends on the sub and our situations.  Some have been/are allowed their own sex lives, some are allowed none, some are only allowed to have sex with whom I tell them is okay (or expected).

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:34:19 PM   
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I can have sex anytime I want so, why would I wanna have sex with a sub/slave?


So you just use the subs for other interest and then get sex from vanilla people? Interesting...

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:36:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bottomboy81

It makes me wonder, do the dommes feel the need to have an orgasm? If their sub is not good enough for it, do they just wait until bed time and play with their vibrators? It must be better than the human touch for them.


I can only speak for myself, but as I said, I do have one boy that I sleep with, and let me tell you, it's frequent. Just because I wish to play with, care for, and 'own' more than one person doesn't mean I have to sleep with all of them.

And no, it's not about my slave's wallet. My warren doesn't sleep with me, but we spend quality time together, in the playroom and out. We do errands, have dinner, and I even kick his ass on the Wii from time to time. Don't tell me I don't care for him just because he doesn't share my bed.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:38:39 PM   
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It makes me wonder, do the dommes feel the need to have an orgasm? If their sub is not good enough for it, do they just wait until bed time and play with their vibrators? It must be better than the human touch for them.


I can only speak for myself, but as I said, I do have one boy that I sleep with, and let me tell you, it's frequent. Just because I wish to play with, care for, and 'own' more than one person doesn't mean I have to sleep with all of them.

And no, it's not about my slave's wallet. My warren doesn't sleep with me, but we spend quality time together, in the playroom and out. We do errands, have dinner, and I even kick his ass on the Wii from time to time. Don't tell me I don't care for him just because he doesn't share my bed.


If you are not caring about their needs or wants, you are not caring about them all together. You are basically using them and draining what you can out of them.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:39:07 PM   
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That’s the second post from a man on here with an entitlement complex. What is it with these men? Sheesh. You’d have us women believe that we are suppose to role over and spread our legs every time your cocks get hard!


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ya ya what ever, I think being rejected 99 percent of the time validates bitterness. Its really a miracle that most men still like women from after years of rejection. Women are bitter all the time as men always have to prove them selfs that they are not after women to only use them. Kinda like guilty until proven innocent. Yet a womans bitterness is always more validated and they make the rules and are on top of the game. But than again, a lot of todays women are shameless hypocrites, what else is new.


bottomboy-

Your diatribe has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have seen written. I don’t mean this in a sarcastic way, but seriously, my suggestion is you learn to get over your petulance, and open your eyes a little. You may enjoy life and relationships more (and have better luck) if you stop tarnishing a whole gender with unfounded social commentary.

What have you done to make the kind of woman you seek want you?


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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:41:24 PM   
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It makes me wonder, do the dommes feel the need to have an orgasm? If their sub is not good enough for it, do they just wait until bed time and play with their vibrators? It must be better than the human touch for them.


I can only speak for myself, but as I said, I do have one boy that I sleep with, and let me tell you, it's frequent. Just because I wish to play with, care for, and 'own' more than one person doesn't mean I have to sleep with all of them.

And no, it's not about my slave's wallet. My warren doesn't sleep with me, but we spend quality time together, in the playroom and out. We do errands, have dinner, and I even kick his ass on the Wii from time to time. Don't tell me I don't care for him just because he doesn't share my bed.


If you are not caring about their needs or wants, you are not caring about them all together. You are basically using them and draining what you can out of them.



Just because you would not be satisfied with this, doesn't mean he is. Did you even think to ask whether he has to pick up the tab all the time? Or if this is exactly the type of relationship he seeks? Or if perhaps this actually is the culmination of his dreams?

Don't judge other people's relationships, they are not yours, and what makes you happy will not necessarily suit others.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:42:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bottomboy81

It makes me wonder, do the dommes feel the need to have an orgasm? If their sub is not good enough for it, do they just wait until bed time and play with their vibrators? It must be better than the human touch for them.


Well, speaking for myself, I've a regular supply of sex in my spouse and personal toys so I'm not reliant on sexual interaction with my subs.  And, for the vast majority of the time, am not attracted to them sexually anyhow.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 2:42:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bottomboy81

It makes me wonder, do the dommes feel the need to have an orgasm? If their sub is not good enough for it, do they just wait until bed time and play with their vibrators? It must be better than the human touch for them.


I can only speak for myself, but as I said, I do have one boy that I sleep with, and let me tell you, it's frequent. Just because I wish to play with, care for, and 'own' more than one person doesn't mean I have to sleep with all of them.

And no, it's not about my slave's wallet. My warren doesn't sleep with me, but we spend quality time together, in the playroom and out. We do errands, have dinner, and I even kick his ass on the Wii from time to time. Don't tell me I don't care for him just because he doesn't share my bed.


If you are not caring about their needs or wants, you are not caring about them all together. You are basically using them and draining what you can out of them.


You -do- know some subs/slaves prefer not to have sex with their Mistress', right?  It's part of their fantasy, so by denying them sex many Dommes are, in fact, fullfilling their wants and needs.  Your wants and needs don't reflect the wants and needs of everybody else.

I'm allowed sex with my Owner.  Her other pet is not...and that was his decision.  That's how he wants it.  She's perfectly nurturing and caring of his needs.

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