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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/8/2007 4:38:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: LittleWench

Thank you all for the replies :)

I don't put much stock in the theory that holding your urine will cause an infection, most people manage to get 8hrs sleep without getting up in the night for a toilet break and live a life quite happily without causing themselves bodily harm, so whilst 12yrs would be quite the stretch, 8hrs is perfectly normal.

It was the concept that interested me, and I thought as one who could use more control over her diet, that perhaps it could be something that would apply equally as effectively to meal routines.

People can and do get urinary tract and kidney infections from holding their urine. Yes, people do get 8 hrs sleep without getting up to go to the bathroom, because their fluid intake before going to bed was minimal. They don't lay in bed for 8 hours forcing themselves not to go when their body is telling them to get up.

If this is done over a long period of time it can cause some serious kidney problems or worse. Depending on the amount of fluid intake and the time period it's held, it could actually kill you. So .. if the dominant in question decided to raise the stakes and increase the fluid intake, just for the fun of it, it could be extremely dangerous.

Don't believe it? Go to your favorite search engine and search for "hold your pee for a Wii".

That's a prime example of what can happen when people don't take just a little time to check out the risks before they dive head first into the pool.

While the concept is intriguing, if I were to do this, I would adjust the time period AND I would personally monitor the fluid intake between bathroom breaks.

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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/8/2007 4:53:40 PM

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Don't believe it? Go to your favorite search engine and search for "hold your pee for a Wii".

She died from a conditioned caused from excess fluid consumption, not from holding her urine. Google it.

In January 2007 Jennifer Strange, a woman in Sacramento, California, died following a water-drinking contest sponsored by a local radio station, Sacramento-based KDND-FM.[3]. The fact that the contest was called, "Hold your wee for a Wii" has led some to believe that not urinating is related to hyponatremia. This is untrue; this type of water intoxication is caused by excessive and rapid consumption of (sodium-free) water.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia

I can't believe that you told me to go search for the information, and yet yourself did no such thing.

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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/8/2007 5:04:41 PM

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Ok, but the blog cited in the OP is about a person that can use a diaper and can go outside of the prescribed times.

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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/8/2007 7:11:55 PM

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Sir and I do this from time to time, I have children and my bladder is not what it was 8 years ago but I have no ill effects from it and no trouble lasting 4 hours or so. Also if I have to pee outside of an alloted time I get the option to go outside in the backyard (assuming the um's are not around) *blushes* or in the bath tub
Also another reason generally speaking we pee less at night is that there is a trigger/hormone in the brain that stops he kidneys producing so much urine, in some people this trigger is faulty and in some people it never activates at all, but this is what eventually kicks in to stop UM's wetting at night. So not going fo 12 hours through the night I cant see the drama in a healthy adult.

And like everyone has pointed out, she has the option to relieve herself

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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/8/2007 8:32:47 PM

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Very, very hot idea. For a few days. One day a week. Every now and then. Or something. Well, not a work day when wetting myself would do financial damage.

We'd both enjoy it I think. Think I might suggest this one to him.

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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/8/2007 10:55:37 PM

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I had a very similar schedule for urinating; a different one for defecating. The urinating schedule did not work. I drink a lot of water throughout the day and unfortunately could not hold it. I did not have a diaper as insurance; I simply wet myself on a few occasions. Since he did not wish to put something on me that I physically could not do, he abandoned the schedule (trying to push myself to hold it created an incontinence issue). However, the defecation schedule remains, without issue. It is about control, and is a way for me to feel additional control throughout the day, and to be aware of my body. He did it for my benefit, not his.

I can certainly understand why one would enjoy this, and do not see anything cruel about it. Had I been afforded a diaper for my issues, I would have been grateful for the ability to utilize it.

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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/9/2007 12:11:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: LittleWench

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Don't believe it? Go to your favorite search engine and search for "hold your pee for a Wii".

She died from a conditioned caused from excess fluid consumption, not from holding her urine. Google it.

For the sake of clarification:

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If this is done over a long period of time it can cause some serious kidney problems or worse. Depending on the amount of fluid intake and the time period it's held, it could actually kill you. So .. if the dominant in question decided to raise the stakes and increase the fluid intake, just for the fun of it, it could be extremely dangerous.

My comment clearly states that an excessive amount of fluid intake can be dangerous. I referred to the contest to illustrate that point. I never said that the woman in the contest died from holding her urine.

Instead of pointing out what could happen if other factors were introduced, I should have limited my comment only to the subject of the blog post.

My apologies.

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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/9/2007 3:41:56 PM

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However, the defecation schedule remains, without issue. It is about control, and is a way for me to feel additional control throughout the day, and to be aware of my body. He did it for my benefit, not his.

Whew, this would be a problem for me. I'm lactose-challenged, you might say. Even with Lactaid, some foods stampede for the exit. And it's not controllable (unless you count the 5 minute warning that something bad's about to happen). How would this be dealt with in your situation? And are you required to defecate in that interval, or is it just the opportunity to defecate?

Personally, I'm plenty aware of my body without the regimens.

thornhappy

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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/9/2007 4:51:51 PM

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Depending on the amount of fluid intake and the time period it's held, it could actually kill you.

Your first post clearly states that depending on the amount of fluid intake AND the period it's held (not just that the fluid intake is responsible but the combination of the two), IT (the combined activity of drinking excessive fluids and holding your urine) could actually kill you.

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My comment clearly states that an excessive amount of fluid intake can be dangerous. I referred to the contest to illustrate that point. I never said that the woman in the contest died from holding her urine.

My issue with your post is this.

Hyponatremia has absolutely nothing to do with urine retention and everything to do with water consumption. Other cases of victims of hyponatremia are as follows....

Matthew Carrington, a student at California State University in Chico, California, died of hyponatremia in February 2005 during a fraternity hazing ritual [1].
James McBride, a police officer with the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia, died of hyponatremia on August 10, 2005. Officer McBride had been participating in a strenuous bicycle patrol training course. During a 12-mile (19 km) training ride on the second day of the course, Officer McBride drank as much as three gallons (11 liters) of water[2].
Leah Betts [4] died on the 16th of November 1995 after taking an ecstasy tablet at her 18th birthday party and subsequently drinking too much water; the case received mass media coverage throughout the United Kingdom, which focused on the dangers of ecstasy.
After completing the 2007 London Marathon, 22-year-old David Rogers collapsed and later died as a result of hyponatremia.[4]

None of these victims participated in holding their urine. They developed hyponatremia from excessive fluid consumption.

In a post that is about retaining urine you mention one of the dangers is that you could die. You mention Jennifer Strange's case and the Hold your Wee for a Wii competition as evidence that this is so. Which is clearly not true. Had I, or someone similar, not done the research to debuke your claim, other readers of this post could go away believing what you stated is fact, when it is not. It is this type of post that rather than educating (which I believe was actually your intent) causes disinformation and hysteria.

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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/11/2007 8:09:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

Where's Rrafe? He would love a thread that includes diapers.

Rrafe? Who's that?
ROFL............dumped the old profile, too many damned paddles.

Anyhow, is the shy falling in here, or what? It's something these guys want to do for some fun-while they wait to get together, I see no harm in it.

Here's an intersting article.

http://www.tampafetishparty.com/writings/diaper_domination.htm

It could be a lot heavier than just a bathroom schedule.

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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/11/2007 1:45:35 PM

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If you want a bladder infection, or other problems down there,
I should say, go on with such a rediculous shit. I don't understand
why people take such a risk with health issues. ( I've been buzy with bladderproblems over a year, and I'm happily its finally back to normal, so I speak out of My own experiance, and No I don't play such a stupid games)

I would never ever risk to harm My own property, and just think
this is just foolish.

But each to thier own.

B safe!

GoddezzT`

Oh and another thing, a person needs 2 liters of water a day, and she wanted to drink less, to not pee....? rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrright! get a grip

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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/11/2007 1:50:44 PM

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Bladder infections usually come from not staying clean enough. People who have low resistance to this sort of thing should not do it. But I know of a lot who never have an issue.

Including abdl who wear 24 7 and incons. But they are smart enough to take preventive measures,like skin barriers. Just because SOME people have issues with doing this-does not mean that everyone will.

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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/11/2007 3:42:23 PM

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i have to ask my Master permission to go to the bathroom. He says he will never say no but it is a control thing haveing to ask. It does not bother me after 22 months i don't even have to think about it anymore it is a natural thing for me to ask permission.

Matt's littleone

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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/11/2007 3:50:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

Where's Rrafe? He would love a thread that includes diapers.

Rrafe? Who's that?
ROFL............dumped the old profile, too many damned paddles.

Anyhow, is the shy falling in here, or what? It's something these guys want to do for some fun-while they wait to get together, I see no harm in it.

Here's an intersting article.

http://www.tampafetishparty.com/writings/diaper_domination.htm

It could be a lot heavier than just a bathroom schedule.

I don't really see it being conceivable that the person under this profile is the same person that posted as Rrafe.

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RE: Toilet Timing/Training - 12/11/2007 10:06:44 PM

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However, the defecation schedule remains, without issue. It is about control, and is a way for me to feel additional control throughout the day, and to be aware of my body. He did it for my benefit, not his.

Whew, this would be a problem for me. I'm lactose-challenged, you might say. Even with Lactaid, some foods stampede for the exit. And it's not controllable (unless you count the 5 minute warning that something bad's about to happen). How would this be dealt with in your situation? And are you required to defecate in that interval, or is it just the opportunity to defecate?

Personally, I'm plenty aware of my body without the regimens.

thornhappy

There are particular times of day when it is allowed. There are also exceptions made for problematic situations, if I ask for them. But I tend to not eat things that create problems for me.

I am aware of my body, too. Now I am even more aware. I like the regimens and that level of control.

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