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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/13/2008 12:41:58 PM

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thanks for those references. will you please post links to a few of those mainstream youtube clips?

Common themes? Bondage, hot men, and mostly that they have "presence".

Inxs: Taste It
http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8d-MpFziDE

NIN Closer
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QWncI51ggH8

Take That How Deep is your Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjuRVFMkf0I

Mad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfV6X5ZpBpk

Pretty Shoes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iGqYo7wL6s

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/15/2008 8:26:54 PM

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My ideal femdom film wouldnt be so much tie the guy up and whip him for 45 min. I want to see more passion, something a little more erotic.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/16/2008 8:36:20 PM

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I just viewed a Netflix film, Preaching to the Perverted. It is a British film that is not only salacious but a wonderfully done film on the subject.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/17/2008 7:27:58 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfV6X5ZpBpk

I like the way he moves his hands to get rid of the bonds at the beginning of the video. And it doesn't matter if there is a man or woman trying to get free in vain, it's always nice to see!

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/17/2008 8:58:30 AM

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What I most like to see (and almost never do) in a femdom film is the exhibition of a woman gaining control over a man, and using that control for her own pleasure, whether he likes it or not, and preferably at least some of it "not". The interaction of the two is paramount to make it really interesting, in my opinion.

What I find incredibly exciting, yet almost never see in film or stories, is the exhibition of the method by which the female gains control over the male. Whether she uses force, seduction, deceit, I find this process even more arousing than everything that follows. Seeing the man gradually being subdued, falling under her spell, or just caught off guard and suddenly captured, experiencing his downfall from freedom to subjugation, I would love to see more of this. There are two moments that I find most entrancing: (1) when he realizes that he is in jeopardy and begins to fight back; and (2) when she gains the upper hand, and he finds himself inescapably under her control.

I never get enough of this type of scene, whether it's from his perspective or hers, but obviously when I read/see such stories, I'm putting myself in his place.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/17/2008 9:02:18 AM

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I just viewed a Netflix film, Preaching to the Perverted. It is a British film that is not only salacious but a wonderfully done film on the subject.

Off topic a bit, but thanks for putting it out there that this is on NetFlix. Just added it to my que.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/17/2008 10:51:57 AM

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quote ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

What I most like to see (and almost never do) in a femdom film is the exhibition of a woman gaining control over a man, and using that control for her own pleasure, whether he likes it or not, and preferably at least some of it "not".

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true that. ands theres not much for girl on girls that shows her gaining control from starting to finishing.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/17/2008 11:10:06 AM

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What I most like to see (and almost never do) in a femdom film is the exhibition of a woman gaining control over a man, and using that control for her own pleasure, whether he likes it or not, and preferably at least some of it "not". The interaction of the two is paramount to make it really interesting, in my opinion.

What I find incredibly exciting, yet almost never see in film or stories, is the exhibition of the method by which the female gains control over the male. Whether she uses force, seduction, deceit, I find this process even more arousing than everything that follows. Seeing the man gradually being subdued, falling under her spell, or just caught off guard and suddenly captured, experiencing his downfall from freedom to subjugation, I would love to see more of this. There are two moments that I find most entrancing: (1) when he realizes that he is in jeopardy and begins to fight back; and (2) when she gains the upper hand, and he finds himself inescapably under her control.

I never get enough of this type of scene, whether it's from his perspective or hers, but obviously when I read/see such stories, I'm putting myself in his place.

A porn flick doesn't have the budget to show this. It requires an extremely talented actor to portray that kind of conflict and emotion, multiple sets, great editing, etc. I kind of keep coming back to that point as it seems most people are talking about what would more likely be a feature film, not a porn flick -- the difference in budget is astronomical.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/17/2008 11:32:12 AM

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The hottest, and I mean absolute hottest bdsm film I've ever seen (and frankly, if I watch one it's for the "hot" factor only) was this film of outtakes from an actual session. No actors, no script - except for what was negotiated between the players. It was a gay CBT scene and it was the real thing. Nothing put on at all. I would like to see more of that in general, esp among FemDomme films. But one thing I hate to see in FemDomme films are the stereotypical mean as all hell Dominatrix scenarios...ie: the yelling, shrew who if you watch closely doesn't even know how to use a cane properly and the whimpering sissy maid in the cheapest, ugliest off-the-rack costume you can find. What I like to see is strong confidence in a Dominant Woman. One who knows how to use the implements at hand and a bottom who can take what she dishes out.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/17/2008 11:45:05 AM

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The Girls Gone Wild model seems to be profitable. Find some attractive, naive young boys, feed `em a bunch of extacy, and make `em do all those horrible wicked things you like.

What the GGW videos don't show is the emotional aftershock experienced by the girls they used. That part of the experience might actually be appropriate content for a femdom film.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/17/2008 1:10:33 PM

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The Girls Gone Wild model seems to be profitable. Find some attractive, naive young boys, feed `em a bunch of extacy, and make `em do all those horrible wicked things you like.

What the GGW videos don't show is the emotional aftershock experienced by the girls they used. That part of the experience might actually be appropriate content for a femdom film.

I'm revolted but turned on at the same time. Morally I would never do anything like that. But strictly from a fantasy standpoint, I find it extremely erotic to think about getting a limo, a bunch of my hot girlfriends, and going out to clubs and getting guys to agree to come back and film all kinds of erotic nastiness (they think they are getting laid probably, but they are not), only to have them bound & gagged and not realizing that probably the largest audience will be gay men anyway. It's an idea that works only in fantasy though. I would never take advantage of someone like that, even if they are stupid (and horny) enough to agree to it!

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/17/2008 2:17:09 PM

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You're right of course. Just from what I've seen from your posts, I din't really think you would do something like that. I was just pointing out the relatively high return on investment of those kinds of flics, and the fact that that kind of behavior by males towards females is considered acceptable or, at worst, only moderately unscrupulous.

It would be interesting to see if you could even get the networks to sell you airtime for the promo.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/17/2008 2:40:52 PM

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You're right of course. Just from what I've seen from your posts, I din't really think you would do something like that. I was just pointing out the relatively high return on investment of those kinds of flics, and the fact that that kind of behavior by males towards females is considered acceptable or, at worst, only moderately unscrupulous.

It would be interesting to see if you could even get the networks to sell you airtime for the promo.

If I am not mistaken, Joe Francis (creator of Girls Gone Wild) is still in jail. So it's not moderately unscrupulous, his actions in some areas were flat out illegal. Not sure if someone got him out of jail yet or what charges he's still facing.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/17/2008 3:20:05 PM

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Well, from what I'm seeing on Wilipedia, it looks like he is currently still locked up. Most of the trouble he's in seems to stem from "using and conspiring to use minors in sexual performances" and tax evasion.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/17/2008 3:41:49 PM

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What I find incredibly exciting, yet almost never see in film or stories, is the exhibition of the method by which the female gains control over the male.

A porn flick doesn't have the budget to show this.

I don't think a film has to be a feature film to include such elements. Given how many people have spoken in favor of this idea, it might help your cause to see if it can somehow be included.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/17/2008 3:56:13 PM

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Mad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfV6X5ZpBpk

I like the way he moves his hands to get rid of the bonds at the beginning of the video. And it doesn't matter if there is a man or woman trying to get free in vain, it's always nice to see!

Yes, I'm very into struggling like this. It's just....well, hot.

Here's another video that had that in it, and it just makes me swoon (and I also love the music of Travis):

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nwh3FmpZ7kg

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/17/2008 7:36:44 PM

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I'm not sure about anyone else, but I found this video pretty hot. Mostly because it just seemed more genuine than most of the Femdom videos out there.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/18/2008 6:28:38 PM

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Seeing the reaction is key!!! There is nothing worse than seeing a strike without a wince, or a flinch.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/18/2008 11:07:33 PM

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Ok so everyone has contributed a great list of what would be better and I agree. I think, no, I am certain that the critical element is a woman being behind the camera, the writing, the directing and the casting. So I strongly suggest that Aakasha use ShaktiSami as her filmagrapher and I think Sea needs to do a screen test - I have a good feeling that he could pull off the emoting and such....just a hunch. I can also imagine him being a great drama coach to the boy/actor playing the sub. By the way, my instincts are golden and never steer folks wrong.

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RE: The ideal femdom fllm - 2/19/2008 1:50:22 AM

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My only slight quibble is the gay male subs...There's plenty of other het boys who would just die for the chance to be in a film like what you're describing. I'm writing a resume as we speak.

Cast aidan and I'll buy it

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Okay, a more serious answer.

Focus on the sub is one of the reasons I have generally liked the gay BDSM porn I've seen better than any het or FemDom porn. Seriously, a big leather daddy schooling an adorable twinky boy who squirms and whimpers and then hugs his Daddy when it's all over. . .HOT. I'm not really into the man on man action, but the D/s dynamic in gay porn seems to be so much more genuine, not to mention even kind of sweet sometimes (depending). And okay, the boys are pretty too :P

You also might want to take a look at some Yaoi for examples of simple yet meaningful plotlines that lead to lots of hot kinky top/bottom sex. Just replace the male top with your Femdom. Again, it's not really the hot man on man action that does it for me as much as the D/s dynamic itself. In any case, some of those plots are usually pretty simple without being totally vapid, and may give you some ideas about the sort of plot you could get away with on a low budget. I <3 Yaoi. *blush*

I really don't think het porn does any of this right. I'm not really big on watching porn (I prefer erotica), but I too, have the internet, so I see the usual share of videos people pass around. Gay porn tends to do this dynamic right more often than het porn, IMHO.

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