RainydayNE
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it's true that weight is not an indicator of health, but paying more for the same service others are getting isn't really what it is.
i pay to bring extra weight on in the form of a really heavy suitcase. when in the cabin with other people who are already packed as closely together as you can be with humane concerns in mind, if i'm making someone else's flight uncomfortable because i'm bleeding over from my seat into theirs, then there's an issue there.
they're paying tons for a flight and should get to be as comfrortable as they can be.
i happen to be on the chubby side myself, but i don't find anything offensive about that. once on a bus i ended up next to a really large lady who figured that since i wasn't taking up all of my seat, then she was somehow entitled to it. with plenty of prodding and making her uncomfortable (i'm basically nonconfrontational really), i got my space back. i needed that space in order to curl up into a ball and go to sleep (was on the bus for like 16 hours or something)
someone has paid for the space of their ONE seat. if you are sitting in their seat, too, then that's not fair to them.
nobody said anything like "oh big people are such crap! they make my life miserable!"
it's just the way it is. (oo, to clarify, i don't mean that big people are crap and that's just the way it is. i mean that people should have to pay for what they use. THAT'S just the way it is.)
as far as dairy goes --
http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/lactoseintolerance/
"Between 30 and 50 million Americans are lactose intolerant and certain ethnic and racial populations are more affected than others. Up to 80 percent of African Americans, 80 to 100 percent of American Indians, and 90 to 100 percent of Asian Americans are lactose intolerant. The condition is least common among people of northern European descent."
where cow's milk wasn't a major means of nutrition, people did not evolve the means to process it in adulthood.
all humans begin producing LESS lactase after the age of 2. we aren't meant to keep drinking it into adulthood, and we're the only animals who do. there's nothing natural about it.
cow's milk is indeed intended for a CALF, to make that calf grow 600 pounds in its first year of life. cows don't keep drinking cow's milk after they're weaned. humans don't keep nursing from their mothers into adulthood, and we don't buy breastmilk in the grocery store. i could never drink plain milk when i was young because it just tasted like "sick" to me, to be honest. and you should look at the figures on PASSABLE amounts of contamination that the milk producers know is in the milk you're drinking. people obsessively purify their water and only drink certain brands of bottled, but nobody's concerned with milk? a fluid from another species?
i drank very little milk as a child, but ate loads of dark leafy green vegetables. spinach provides plenty of calcium, and most kids WILL eat spinach if you don't overcook it. and vitamin D in milk is an ADDITION. it's not naturally occuring. you can get plenty of vit. D if you just spend a couple of hours out in the sun (which is indeed available in the winter =p)
the only bone i ever broke is a toe, and that's because i dropped a chair on it THEN fell on said chair =p
the "need" for milk is manufactured by the people who produce and sell it.
(and obviously other cultures evolved perfectly fine WITHOUT cow's milk, so you could even get into the ethical debate of forcing one cultures ideas about health onto all other cultures in the world. northern europeans believe milk is great but it makes everyone else sick. why is the northern european idea of cow's milk the one that became "medical fact"? you honestly have to ask yourself, but i'm not going to get into it because that would be further hijacking.)
if you take up two seats, pay for two seats. you don't need anything free. if we're giving out free perks, i want free seats in first class because uh... i'm claustrophobic and they're further apart?
should bigger people get free gas every month because sometimes their cars burn more gas because they're carrying more weight?
< Message edited by RainydayNE -- 11/21/2008 11:00:05 AM >
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When did this topic change from obese people taking up 2 seats at no cost to the great milk debate? Some people are overweight because the healthy food is more expensive than the fatty food and it's a better bargain if you're on a fixed income. 
Did you say I was "right"? 
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