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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 4/10/2006 12:13:29 AM   
sfogarty


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why does a female have to dress up like a man (wearing a strap-on) to feel powerful or dominant in a sexual way..and why is the male submissive so turned on by it? I could see it might be a turn on for them because its incredibly humiliating for them...but if it in any way, shape or form was because it made the female seem more powerful to them..why does a woman wearing a fake cock seem powerful? Maybe its pure kink, gender bending role play and not about the power dynamic at all.


Well, I don't think of a woman wearing a strap-on as being male. There is a certain gender-bending dynamic to it, but I'm quite capable of accepting girl-with-fake-cock as girl. I'm not sure it's more /powerful/, and it isn't humiliating, it's just... a fun play on gender, a sexual act (and one that can be done fairly roughly, for the sake of dominance), and a pleasant way to feed my oral fixation. There is, sometimes (but sometimes not), also an aspect of removal from it... I am being sexual not towards /her/, but towards her toy. Often, though, this distinction fades pretty quick if the woman gets into it.

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 4/10/2006 12:14:00 PM   
talltxsub


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The strap-on does not turn her into a male, but it could certainly be another extension of her power.

She can enter the mind, why not other areas?

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 4/10/2006 3:49:56 PM   
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This sub's owner routinely has lucky suck Her dildo clean after She has cum with it, and that is a submissive turn-on for this sub, who does not think of it as a prelude to sucking a man's cock.

However, the realy issue is what if the sub wishes to be deeply submitted to an Owner for whom forced bisexuality is an important turn-on?

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 4/12/2006 1:24:53 AM   
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i'll be the first to say that i'm inexperienced, but i'll offer my thoughts anyways.

For me, that's just not a line that i want to cross, ever. Sucking on a dildo is one thing, it's an inanimte object that is being used for play. i personally don't see it as much different from being told to suck on any other inanimate object. But with the real thing, that brings on another level to it. All of a sudden, there isn't an inanimate object in your mouth, theres a real penis, with a real human being attached to it. At that point, you genuinely cross over into a homosexual act, as you are engaging in a sex act with another man. For some, like myself, they are personally repulsed by the thought of performing a sex act with another man, and just really, really, really don't want to do it. It has nothing to do with homophobia, it's just that i am not sexually attracted to men, and in fact they are repulsing to me on a sexual level. Even if it would make my Mistress very happy, i just couldn't do it .

Now, given that, i would also imagine that there is also some element of homophobia that comes into play for some. "If i do this, i'll be gay" or some such. i think that attitude is somewhat common, given that society conditions men to be straight, and somewhat homophobic.

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 4/12/2006 10:50:51 PM   
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i have only served DOMS and MASTERS.  On their command ihave often sucked other men;s cocks as well.  for a sub, there is nothing as exciting as obeying a DOM's orders.  Many times my DOM has had company at his place.  I am sitting onthe floor, at is feet, and he would direct me to suck one of is friend's cock or DOM would direct me to suck every cock in the room.  This is for DOM;s pelasure and for ODM to show off how well trained i am.

If i was serivng a DOMME or a MISTRESS, i would also suck real cock onher command.  If it wold turn her on to watch her sub or slave suck cock on command, then that is what i want to do.

Besides, as erotic as it is to suck a man's cock in front of other rmen, i think it wold far mor eerotic to suck another's man's cock in front of a woman.

That is just how i feel about it, i am not saying it is right for others.


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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 4/13/2006 5:58:00 AM   
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for a sub, there is nothing as exciting as obeying a DOM's orders.  


For me it really depends on the orders.  If you've been up and running and taking care of kids and work and bills and a sick mom all day and then your dom orders you to stay up until 2 am to do laundry and wash the car and you know you have to get up early again in the morning and do it all over...not really exciting for me.


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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 4/13/2006 6:09:43 AM   
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I find it erotic i once was taken by my domme to an adult theater and forsed to suck 5 cocks

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 4/22/2006 7:39:24 AM   
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I love to see men suck other men's cocks. I saw quite a bit of it this past weekend. No matter who or where, it's a huge turn on for me. They can be straight, bi or gay..It doesn't matter at all to me..

Respectfully,
sultry


I am glad to see some enjoy watching a man pleasure another man, that would be a huge turn on for me if  a domme asked me to pleasure another man...And yes I would finish him to completion for her.  Forced Bi really humbles a man and proves he will do anything to please his domme...

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 4/22/2006 7:40:57 AM   
Willworship


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Sucking a dildo or watching someone else suck a dildo does nothing for me.  But, wave a real dick at me and I get that deep down ache and want to suck it like an all day sucker.  Especially if it is a big one, and eye bugging oh, my god I am going to die if I don't get to touch it.....big one.


I agree I would rather have the real thing than a dildo, but i think the point is the domme is making you do something most would find humiliating.

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 4/22/2006 7:58:40 AM   
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I wonder why it is no one ever says, "Oh my god, I'm going to die if I dont get to touch it." about a smaller cock? Or even an average one?

The bigger ones scare me ... They hurt.

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 4/23/2006 4:49:32 AM   
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i have only sucked another man's penis at the behest of a Domme once.  i have witnessed a Domme force Her sub to suck a strap on once and thought i would orgasm without touching myself it was so hot.  i happen to love sucking cock.  For all intnets and purposes, i am a homosexual man who only submits to Women, so sucking a real or otherwise penis is for me a real joy.

However, what i find most exciting about it, besides the humiliation, is it drives home the Domme's complete control over me when i service Her dildo or another man.  It is my position and responsibilty to bring pleasure to the Domme in whatever form that may take, and if i am capable of doing just that, then my personal pleasure enjoyed while performing the task is just a perk for me.  i don't like needles, but when my scrotal sac was butterflied to a piece of styrofoam, i reveled in the pleasure that it brought to my Domme.

For me, regardless of whether or not i like something, if it is not a HARD limit, then the Domme's pleasure has to take precedence.

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 5/6/2006 6:21:13 AM   
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I'm extremely new to this - and somewhat weary to post because I've noticed in some posts if you have the wrong idea about something, you're attacked for it - but here's my take on why it might be a gratifying experience for a Dominant woman to use a strap-on, or even make their sub suck a real cock...
being that I'm in a catholic school (uniforms and all lol), this belief hasn't gone over well in my religion classes.. but after having done some research, I came to find that one of the reasons it was not acceptable for men to be with other men back in the time that the Bible was being written was mainly because the way they must engage in sex, one must penetrate the other... that brings the man down to the same level as a woman, who was believed to be a second-class human being... while many of us certainly don't agree that is the case, there are still plenty of people who view women to be lower than men... it would be a psychological kick to show a man what it's like to be in the position of being penetrated because it goes against their nature, a male Dom simply can't do this with his sub so the dynamic is different - think about it, when it comes to talking down or dirty to someone, it's more degrading to tell someone "you're a dirty little slut, you like *getting* fucked don't you?" as opposed to "you're a whore, you like fucking me, don't you?" which seems to be a bit more empowering because it implies that person is in more control, they're doing something to you... when it comes to sucking a real cock, almost all men at one point or another, drunk or sober, jokingly or seriously, etc has told a woman to suck his dick in an offense way (and unless you know the woman WANTS to be told, it's always advisable to be polite and ask :) ) which is in a way, objectifying to her and treating her like she's just another hole to fuck... making a man suck some guy off is doing the same thing, it's objectifying him and bringing him to the level of the woman he'd thought of as a slut and low enough to speak to in such a manner
I'm probably either boring and/or offending all of you right now with my rant so I'll end it... but for me personally, if I were to use a strap-on, it's not to make me feel like a man... let's get serious, if I were to watch myself doing it in the mirror, my long blonde hair all over the place, my 32DDs bouncing around, and my fairly big butt thrusting back and forth w/ some fake dick attached to me and standing at a mere 5'1 -ALMOST, I know I certainly wouldn't look or feel like much of a man lol... and I wouldn't want to, as far as I'm concerned, there's nothing a man can do that I can't, except pee standing up... so why would it make me feel more dominant to be one?
<3Courtney*

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 5/7/2006 2:41:29 AM   
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Sucking a mans cock is a big leap from sucking a womans plastic toy, at least for me. The woman, it's likely, the male sub is very attracted to, might have intense feelings for and enjoys submitting to. The man on the hand... the sub has likely no attraction to, no sexual or emotional feelings for and on top of that, cock tastes, feels and smells very different then plastic.

Anything with men was a hard limit for me for a long time. My first emtionally significant submissive expierence opened my eyes and made me realise I was willing to do much more to make her happy then I thought I'd ever be ok with. I never did end up doing anything with a man, but I'm more careful with what I call a hard limit now.

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 5/7/2006 4:14:50 AM   
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What I find interesting , is how often men  who do suck off another man are clearly reminded their not gay. It seems the word bi is kinda of that middle ground and the fact that he is being forced to do it, makes it not seem as emotional as if he is not considered gay, which  really he would not be .In fact add blind fold or even lack of eye contact with the other male and a condom, and it starts to create a little bit more of a seperation than being ordered to put an exposed penis in their mouth and to watch  his eyes through out... Just a view on this matter

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 5/7/2006 9:13:04 AM   
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I find it interesting that everyone assumes that sexual activities dictate sexual orientation.

What you are ordered to do, does not dicate your orientation.




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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 5/7/2006 12:59:07 PM   
MichMasochist


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quote:

ORIGINAL: unownedredhead

Sucking a dildo or watching someone else suck a dildo does nothing for me.  But, wave a real dick at me and I get that deep down ache and want to suck it like an all day sucker.  Especially if it is a big one, and eye bugging oh, my god I am going to die if I don't get to touch it.....big one.



Sucking a dildo or cock is absolutely a hard limit. Such a turn off that it's to the point of revolsion. The same for watching lesbians going at it.

Akin to unownedredhead on the opposite side of things, stick a pussy in front of me and I go crazy, wanting to suck and lick her all day long. Of course I occasionally need a time out to get a drink :)

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 5/7/2006 1:04:19 PM   
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The same reason that lesbians can enjoy dildos but have no interest in actually having a man with a cock in front of them. 


Reminds me of how lesbian friends of mine explained what it is they do...it's not the dick we don't like it's the asshole attached... that's the problem.

< Message edited by theRose4U -- 5/7/2006 1:21:34 PM >

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 5/7/2006 2:51:34 PM   
openmindedslave


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I don't  think you can even call a person bi, if they do it once  or twice, as you don't call a person who takes a sip of beer  once in a while a real drinker..Its all form of experimentation and discovering who you are inside. To remember that we do not act out or do the same  activities  with every lover. or friend  we have... We  know that certain people  in just the right situations , would appreciate certain activities...

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 5/8/2006 12:46:52 PM   
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I know how a submissive woman responds, but it's hard to imagine a man having that same hungry, slurpy desire.  Do you have sub guys who beg for it like that?

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RE: If you're going to suck my dick, why stop there? - 5/8/2006 1:44:05 PM   
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For me its all about the fact that I am attracted to women not men.  Once upon a time I woulda said "no never" to sucking a strop on or getting fucked by it.  Now, while I have no experience with the former and the only penetration was a small dildo during CBT, I can say it's not a problem.  If that's what a woman was interested in, I would be excited to do it.

But with a man, it wouldn't be just about me and her.  It would be about them, with me as secondary and I have enough ego to not be interested.  Also I am not attracted to men for their own sake.  I'm hardly homophobic, both threesomes I have been in involved me and another male pleasuring the same female (we just didn't do anything with each other).  But women are my thing, not men.

Now I do see it possible that at some future time, if I was in a longer term relationship as a sub, doing things I am not today interested in to please her. But for now, and possibly forever, it stays a limit. 

Nuke

-Interesting aside to this topic.  A Domme I approacehd once, asked me if I would suck her boyfriends cock for her, because she liked to have men do that.  That was the ONLY thing she wanted to know in response to a personal message, full of releveance to her profile.  When I replied "not as an audition" she put me on ignore...

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