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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 9:17:16 AM   
LaTigresse


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I am mean........ am I in or out?

I just gotta know.


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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 9:18:04 AM   
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I don't believe in the concept of " too far". What most people consider to far is often just where I am warming up.

Having said that, I have canceled one or two posts that might have been unnecessarily cruel.




As long as your man enough to deal with the consequences I see nothing wrong with that mentality..for you that is..

The only issue I have with anything like that is people tend to say more on the internet than they would face to face. Very few consequences and all. That to me is disingenuous.

I don't have a problem speaking my mind..this is one of the reasons, I'll never make it to the "in crowd".


It's not the quantity of friends, right?


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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 9:19:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I am mean........ am I in or out?

I just gotta know.


Yeah, but you're funny when you do it.


In.


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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 9:20:02 AM   
Icarys


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I am mean........ am I in or out?

I just gotta know.


I like you.(You can sleep now)


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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 9:20:32 AM   
LaTigresse


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Ohhhhh!! Well if speaking what's on one's mind make you an outtie......... I will never be an innie.

LadyPact thinks I am funny and Icarys likes me...... all is good on the Ranch of LaT.


< Message edited by LaTigresse -- 6/29/2010 9:21:42 AM >


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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 9:22:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Ohhhhh!! Well if speaking what's on one's mind make you an outtie......... I will never be an innie.

LadyPact thinks I am funny and Icarys likes me...... all is good on the Ranch of LaT.


It can if you say unpopular things. Don't evva change!


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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 9:24:10 AM   
Icarys


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Ohhhhh!! Well if speaking what's on one's mind make you an outtie......... I will never be an innie.

LadyPact thinks I am funny and Icarys likes me...... all is good on the Ranch of LaT.



Does this mean I can be the beaver now to yours and Jefff's Ward and June?

(Go ahead giggle at the easy jokes)


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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 9:26:02 AM   
LaTigresse


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Outties of CollarMe UNITE!!!!!!!!!

We shall have our own Outtie Clique. We shall drink lots of wine, eat lots of chocolate (dark only), and red raspberries cuz I have buckets of them, and have rubber band gun target practice with mosquitoes, gnats (cuz I also have lots of them) and whiney members of that horrid Innie Clique.


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Just because you are well educated, articulate, and can use big, fancy words, properly........does not mean you are right!

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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 9:28:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Outties of CollarMe UNITE!!!!!!!!!

We shall have our own Outtie Clique. We shall drink lots of wine, eat lots of chocolate (dark only), and red raspberries cuz I have buckets of them, and have rubber band gun target practice with mosquitoes, gnats (cuz I also have lots of them) and whiney members of that horrid Innie Clique.



OOOOH...We have Chocolate and raspberries in our club! Neener!


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http://alturl.com/mog7m

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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 9:28:23 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Outties of CollarMe UNITE!!!!!!!!!

We shall have our own Outtie Clique. We shall drink lots of wine, eat lots of chocolate (dark only), and red raspberries cuz I have buckets of them, and have rubber band gun target practice with mosquitoes, gnats (cuz I also have lots of them) and whiney members of that horrid Innie Clique.



Hoorah!  I'm out!  I mean in...ummm....

Present

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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 9:33:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Icarys

quote:

I like you find these kind of approaches "manipulate, insincere... and most importantly... Weak!


Not everyone that does this is weak...Hell I forget who said this just days ago but it's a well known poster...She mentioned that she emailed a Dom when she first started posting because she was afraid of how the Dom tore people to shreds(I'm sure it was DG)...Maybe she WAS weak but she doesn't come off that way now.


Some people ARE more timid than others. I can understand how someone like yourself might find it hard to put yourself into another's shoes..It's no easy task when your the kinda person who dislikes what you see as weak. We aren't always spot on though...some of us are surely better at picking out things in people but hey we have our own realities.

Edited for clarity



That was a thread about flirting, not about views and opinions. I always get private emails saying "right on" and I rarely respond because in most cases my thoughts are "then why the fuck didn't you say so".

Bottom line, for every idiot posting, there are 10 who agree and 3 who privately message the idiot to state their agreement.

The whole reason I still enjoy CM is that the "in crowd" doesn't walk in lockstep, don't do things or see things in the same way, and in GENERAL tends to discuss issues in a fairly adult way. In addition, many have been around enough to have either met in person or have enough history here that when they say "I always/never do X" that we tend to think they aren't full of shit.

In some ways I think CM is the ideal bdsm group. It pulls from a HUGE pool, there is no way for one person/clique/style to dominate it and so diverse views are not only allowed, they are encouraged. Of course, those diverse views ARE limited by certain things but we have people like me that are mostly monogamous, people like KoM who clearly isn't, we have people that can't stand each other like LuckyAlbatross and I (even though I respect her posts 9 out of 10 times), and all the rest. There is enough diversity to prevent intellectual inbreeding.

That can't always be said of real life groups which is why I dislike groups like leather and gor, I see all to many claiming that garb as a way of gaining respect and for me, I just have to laugh. That said, I spent the weekend discussing leather with LadyPact who strongly identifies with leather. I also publicly attacked the board of the largest group in Los Angeles who identify as leather and declared they had no integrity, while they denied it strongly, they did change the rules to prevent what caused me to declare they had no integrity so this issue is NOT limited to online.

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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 9:44:48 AM   
Icarys


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That was a thread about flirting, not about views and opinions. I always get private emails saying "right on" and I rarely respond because in most cases my thoughts are "then why the fuck didn't you say so".

Bottom line, for every idiot posting, there are 10 who agree and 3 who privately message the idiot to state their agreement.


I'm glad you brought that up...It's fitting from my perspective as well.

Edited for clarity


< Message edited by Icarys -- 6/29/2010 9:46:33 AM >


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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 9:47:20 AM   
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I'm a little torn over this topic, because there's a very down to earth side to me. I have a thing for communication, honesty and expressing all those things inside one's heart and soul.

At the moment, I'm feeling rather depressed. The normal kind of depressed when one is bummed out or disappointed. Thought I'd make that clear, because as soon as somebody makes a post and says there are depressed, some people jump all over it like it's clinical depression.

I do think there is a lot of Over the top shit that people go on about online. Seriously, most of this stuff on the net really should not be taken too seriously.

What's amazing is that there are plenty of screwed up people that are in or not in the lifestyle. I just think this is a human issue in general. Not some BDSM exclusive.

Again, I'm rather depressed at the moment. I've not been tossing any Candy Jars full of Hammers out at somebody, nothing that I've done or been doing to silence somebody. If anything, I'm very much interested and want to talk about things on a serious heart to heart level. So yeah, I'm a little confused and frustrated and yeah... hurt. (shame on me admitting that).

I really have not been the kind of person to substitute what it means to be a human being for the sake of an orientation label. Really don't care for that personally.

Be true to yourself.

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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 10:08:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha

I am not sure if you noticed, but I believe the posts you are speaking of occurred in July 09. Somewhere around Nov-Dec, a lot of things changed in these forums. I cannot say with certainty about the period before, although it has been my experience as a poster in the past that the mods were as impartial as they were capable of being. Humans are after all humans, andSaying that, now, tickets are reviewed(as they were before but by several mods, so there is inherent impartiality in that alone) What you dont see also about the thread you are talking about( we looked it up just now) is the other poster you are talking about also had posts pulled immediately after yours. Sometimes the mods are quick enough (not always unfortunately) that you do not see the other material. Regardless, now there are more mods, and hopefully, not only are they impartial but they are PERCEIVED to be impartial. That is not how it was before, whether or not previous moderators were impartial, some had the PERCEPTION they were not.


it was that long ago eh? jee the older i get the faster time seems to pass.
i did not think the moderator was not being impartial... i thought it was more a case of having to follow up on a poster complaining and pointing out that one is not allowed to use another thread inorder to'get back' at someone, which she obviously precieved i was doing... and indeed she did not see the humour in it so in her eyes that was exactly what i was doing... indeed i never saw other comments...
also i was glad her comment on my thread was kept up so everybody could read it...
i think uncensored might be best for honesty?

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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 10:22:15 AM   
LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
That was a thread about flirting, not about views and opinions. I always get private emails saying "right on" and I rarely respond because in most cases my thoughts are "then why the fuck didn't you say so".

Bottom line, for every idiot posting, there are 10 who agree and 3 who privately message the idiot to state their agreement.

The whole reason I still enjoy CM is that the "in crowd" doesn't walk in lockstep, don't do things or see things in the same way, and in GENERAL tends to discuss issues in a fairly adult way. In addition, many have been around enough to have either met in person or have enough history here that when they say "I always/never do X" that we tend to think they aren't full of shit.

In some ways I think CM is the ideal bdsm group. It pulls from a HUGE pool, there is no way for one person/clique/style to dominate it and so diverse views are not only allowed, they are encouraged. Of course, those diverse views ARE limited by certain things but we have people like me that are mostly monogamous, people like KoM who clearly isn't, we have people that can't stand each other like LuckyAlbatross and I (even though I respect her posts 9 out of 10 times), and all the rest. There is enough diversity to prevent intellectual inbreeding.

That can't always be said of real life groups which is why I dislike groups like leather and gor, I see all to many claiming that garb as a way of gaining respect and for me, I just have to laugh. That said, I spent the weekend discussing leather with LadyPact who strongly identifies with leather. I also publicly attacked the board of the largest group in Los Angeles who identify as leather and declared they had no integrity, while they denied it strongly, they did change the rules to prevent what caused me to declare they had no integrity so this issue is NOT limited to online.

I heard a little bit about that last part in your absence.  You know, that period of time this past weekend while you weren't making us breakfast.  The other part we discussed.  That's not what leather is about to Me.  It does, however, tie into the original in the thread.

When THAT is the image being presented, you've really only got two options.  Shut up and (figuratively) go away or stand up and stick around.  Any time you have a subgroup of folks, there are going to be some making the rest look bad.  People hold on to that negative and the positive gets lost.

Oddly enough, here on the boards with the supposed clique thing, I get the impression that people skip the fact that we DON'T agree on everything.  From what someone called earlier the outside looking in, they aren't really looking at the fact that we're not some kind of group of yes men.  They glaze over the times that there are vastly different opinions on subjects.  I can honestly say that I believe I've had a different point of view at one time or another with darn near every regular poster on these boards.  Some more than others, but that's how it should be.  We're not clones and we're not carbon copies.  THAT is the image that I wish would be presented.


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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 10:29:47 AM   
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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 10:34:18 AM   
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heh..I think everyone online is a bit of an attention junkie.  It simply just is what it is.

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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 10:38:08 AM   
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heh..I think everyone online is a bit of an attention junkie.  It simply just is what it is.


Some more than others but I agree.


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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 10:42:11 AM   
LadyPact


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Nah he's just stomping his feet when the spotlight isn't on him...There's a difference.


In case you haven't noticed, they've both been known to do that.  Neither of them are the worst attention whores on here by far.  Not by a serious long shot.



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RE: The Image that is Given - 6/29/2010 10:48:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Icarys

quote:

I like you find these kind of approaches "manipulate, insincere... and most importantly... Weak!


Not everyone that does this is weak...Hell I forget who said this just days ago but it's a well known poster...She mentioned that she emailed a Dom when she first started posting because she was afraid of how the Dom tore people to shreds(I'm sure it was DG)...Maybe she WAS weak but she doesn't come off that way now.


clearly you are not understanding the context of what my comment is based on. I am not calling those individuals that are afraid, intimidated or a host of other reasons of being weak for not posting. They have their reasons.. valid or not... it's their reasons. What I find weak is the individuals that spout the I have people emailing me card as a means to justify their opinion. That to me is weak! and pathetic.


quote:


Some people ARE more timid than others. I can understand how someone like yourself might find it hard to put yourself into another's shoes..It's no easy task when your the kinda person who dislikes what you see as weak. We aren't always spot on though...some of us are surely better at picking out things in people but hey we have our own realities.

Edited for clarity



No actually.. I don't believe you are understanding. Because you clearly are not understanding what I said in the first place. Yes some are more timid than others.... but there is many reasons why people don't post and when or if they send me an private email to me. I am willing to listen and learn there point of view... but what occurs between us.. is between us. To me it's about respecting their privacy. For if they really wanted their opinion known, they can do it for themselves. Also, I am strong enough in my own opinions not have to have this unprovable support for my opinions. If I require the support... well.. you can be sure that such support is going to be something others can validate for themselves.

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