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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 9/6/2010 3:03:28 AM

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I know a lot of subs have kissing the same sex as a 'hard limit.' And I guess I wonder why - you sum it up here, you wouldn't enjoy it and don't desire it in any way but if your partner ordered you to do it, you'd do it to please them. That's what submission is, right?

well mine would never order it because he knows how strongly i feel and this to me is a hard limit. so its not about not submitting its about him respecting me and my limits and he would not damage my trust in him in anyway, i have plenty of soft limits he pushes and things like pain limits he pushes.

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 9/6/2010 5:04:46 AM

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You are allowed to be bothered by me not liking people who do that. And I'm allowed to not like people who do that. The first is right for you, but not for me. The latter is right for me, but not for you. The only person whose moral code I need to consider here is mine. Not yours.

In which case surely I'm 'allowed' to also consider your stance overdramatic, which is what I said in the first place?

Absolutely, as I am allowed to consider yours deliberately closed minded to other people's feelings on the subject. Or should I use the word intolerant instead?

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 9/6/2010 7:38:30 AM

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Absolutely, as I am allowed to consider yours deliberately closed minded to other people's feelings on the subject. Or should I use the word intolerant instead?

You could use the word intolerant, but in that thread I'm talking only about my own personal relationships-I'm not judging the actions of *others* as you seem to be doing.

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 9/8/2010 5:48:31 AM

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Bi female here, so I guess I'm not Your target group, but.......I was kissed by a gay man once and he was a very hot kisser. At the same time, a straight gal wanted a bi experience, except no kissing and I respected that. I will tongue-kiss a man or a woman either one, but if I'm not attracted to him/her......eeewww. I love to kiss & I've been told I'm a great kisser, but I stay within my relationship.....unless He specifically wants me to kiss someone else.....

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 9/8/2010 5:59:52 AM

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I'm not her, but I wanted to chime in.

I might.

Depends on just how far" not attracted" goes.

Are they completely disgusted by the thought of kissing me, or are they like meh, ok we could, but just so you know, it's not going to thrill me, and I am only putting up with it.

If I was in a particularly sadistic mood, or they were so hot and sexy, I wanted to kiss them for the sheer perversity of doing so, an they were not disgusted by the thought, I might actually quiet enjoy the latter. Kissing them as an act of power over them, knowing they were not attracted to me, but they would anyway.

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I'm curious if you would also be perfectly happy to have someone french kiss you who made it clear they weren't attracted to you?

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/18/2011 12:17:12 PM

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HARD LIMIT and I'm trying to keep an open mind about bi-sexuality and all BDSM act in general,
but I just cant! Most masters EXPECT female slaves to perform bi-sexual acts,
and one of my biggest stressors and pools of self-doubt is over the fact that
I find the idea of touching or kissing a woman repulsive.
And it literally is a LIMIT, a hold back, a lessening of my value as a slave.
Heck, because I can't let go of that limit, it really makes me sub, not slave,
despite all my romantic musings to the opposite.

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/18/2011 5:36:36 PM

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Petite, not at all. If you take the time to find the one man you are compatible with. One who doesn't want you having sex with others.

For me, it's a deal breaker on several levels. First, I'm totally straight. Second, I wouldn't lie to another woman and claim I found her attractive when actually the thought of engaging sexually with her made me nauseous. And most importantly, I'm monogamous.

There are lots of guys out there I'm not compatible with. But I'm with the one who I am on the same page. A person who himself is totally heterosexual and monogamous.

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/18/2011 5:54:41 PM

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straight female slave here. I find kissing another woman to be a complete turn off and does zero, nada, nothing for me...but yet if Master commanded it of me then I would do it. He is fully aware of just how much it turns me off though to the point of it being a grossness/ick factor to me.

Doesn't mean one day he won't have me do it though.

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/18/2011 8:22:29 PM

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I am a straight sub and kissing a women is not a hard limit for me. I have kissed a women recently and there was no spark like I get with a really good male kisser. But it was nice.

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/18/2011 9:20:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: PetiteOralSub

HARD LIMIT and I'm trying to keep an open mind about bi-sexuality and all BDSM act in general,
but I just cant! Most masters EXPECT female slaves to perform bi-sexual acts,
and one of my biggest stressors and pools of self-doubt is over the fact that
I find the idea of touching or kissing a woman repulsive.
And it literally is a LIMIT, a hold back, a lessening of my value as a slave.
Heck, because I can't let go of that limit, it really makes me sub, not slave,
despite all my romantic musings to the opposite.

i think being authentically yourself does not in any way lessen your value as a slave. Having the courage to be yourself rather than attempting to mould yourself to imaginary expectations actually heightens your value. What Master would want generic when they could have the rare, unique jewel that is the real Petite?

As for the OP, i'm pansexual, so i can't really contribute much to the conversation. i will say though, when it comes to fluid-bonding activities suggested by a Top, i'm prone to say, "You first, my lovely."

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/19/2011 6:40:49 AM

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As a straight woman, NO, I don't find that kissing another woman would be a hard limit. I don't see it as a limit in anyway, simply a preference.

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/19/2011 7:11:22 AM

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Well I've always thought since I was 10 that I was bisexual even though I've never gone out with a girl.
It was because for a year, I had an absolutly gorgeous fourth class teacher and she was so nice and caring.
I kissed a girl three years ago and I fingered and kissed another girl two years ago!I was so happy as the second girl.
I did stuff with I had a crush on for like 7 months and finally getting that chance to be that near her was just fabulous I thought!
I know myself that when I'm married I'll only be with my husband sexually as he'll be able to give me kids and I can then see his body parts every single night so I will never want to stray!

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/20/2011 4:46:15 PM

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Absolutely a hard limit. I do not make out with guys.

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/20/2011 6:08:07 PM

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I know a lot of subs have kissing the same sex as a 'hard limit.' And I guess I wonder why - you sum it up here, you wouldn't enjoy it and don't desire it in any way but if your partner ordered you to do it, you'd do it to please them. That's what submission is, right?

Where does she come up with these ridiculous suppositions?

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/21/2011 2:33:34 PM

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I am not a sub,and have no romantic connection with any "man",but in my lifetime, have kissed many "biological"men, who live as what they truly are.
You may draw your own conclusions,as I have.
No worries

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/22/2011 9:34:32 AM

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For me that would be a hard limit. I know from past post many women enjoying seeing two men go at it and yes many Domme do to. But for me it always starts and ends with the Domme and if I have the trust with her. But kissing yes that would be a hard limit.

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/22/2011 9:37:07 AM

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I am very much straight, and so I would find the idea of kissing another woman horrible, I would completely not enjoy it.
However, if my Dom ordered me to do that, I think, after a bit of pleading and protesting, I probably would.

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/22/2011 9:55:20 AM

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this should of been discussed prior to entering into a relationship. if domme wants this, then she's taking chance sub catching some disease because who knows where the other mouth has been. definitely not for me.

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/22/2011 2:23:42 PM

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Well, I'd do it, but the Domme who's demanded it would better bladdy well look as though she's enjoying it.

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RE: Same-sex kissing (for straight subs) - limits and t... - 5/22/2011 4:30:12 PM

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What if she wanted it as an expression of power, rather than for her enjoyment? Huh? Huh? What then? Huh?

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