crazyml -> RE: god and bsdm (8/20/2012 4:30:36 AM)
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Okies... SO I'm a proper evangelical atheist. I really do think it's all complete fucking baloney. But... given the number of really smart, thoughtful, people I know that do have faith, I'll answer your question as best I can. Firstly - Ask your friend where in scripture it says that what you do is "the devil's play". At the very best, you'll find that some evangelical mad-wag has made an obscure connection between something from the OT (most likely Leviticus) and proclaimed that BDSM is the devils work. Bear in mind that, as the wonderful CynthiaWVirginia pointed out, that if you shop around you can find preachers that will claim that all sorts of things are "of the devil". I was once (way back when I was a proper full-on bible thumping-baptised in a river-god-lovin baptist) assured that listening to Pink Floyd would send me to hell. In the end it was a choice between God and Dark Side of the Moon. I chose. If you take the Christian covenant at its face value, this bearded young dude Jesus, was trying to pitch a philosophy based around love. Love, compassion, and forgiveness are the core of Christian theology. For someone who isn't God to pronounce that you're off to hell because you like this rather than that, isn't showing a great deal of any of those. So... ask your friend to imagine their Peter (or is it Paul - whichever of the two does the math at the pearly gates)... P greets two people, one who'd had a couple of loving kinky relationships, built on consent, a mutual respect for each other's needs and who sought on a daily basis to go to sleep leaving the world just a little bit better than it was in the morning. The second person spent her time judging, accusing, and claiming to speak for god. I don't know about you - but if there were a God, and zhe was the loving compassionate god that the NT describes, the first person would have far less cause for concern (although.... I'm guessing that a really loving and compassionate god would accept that the second person wasn't actually "bad", just fucking stupid.
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