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So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 7/29/2014 3:08:47 PM   
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SPOILERS if you watch Penny Dreadful or True Blood

So, I just saw the clip of this m/m kiss on Penny Dreadful with the gorgeous Josh Hartnett (wasn't he absolutely adored here by MsAsylum? I can't remember her name? Is she still posting??). Then recently there was the juicy dream sequence in True Blood between Eric and Jason. Again, full on kissing.

First, I am happy to see lots of straight men kissing on TV.

Second, I'm wondering about how much this appeals to femdoms in general. I know I sure like it; and I am reminded of the total proliferation of slash fiction out there -- especially people writing about guys hooking up who are characters on popular shows or movies. Women are obviously writing these things I would assume (unless gay men also do, but I believe it's a woman thing).

I hope the trend continues.
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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 7/29/2014 4:13:30 PM   
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I'm all about men getting it on with each other, all sorts of hotness. Seeing straight couples never really did much of anything for me, but anything queer always gets my motor going. Perhaps because I find it easier to put myself into the role of the Top in gay or lesbian scenes, but watching a guy Top a girl is difficult for me to identify with.

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 7/29/2014 4:20:06 PM   
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Totally love it yep yep yep

This is a good clip too, AAkasha - not sure if you're familiar with NU?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9vMSfCNqFA&list=PL2NoCDs240ovECYvy2JUWCrTa4W82bmVa

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 7/29/2014 4:48:35 PM   
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quote:

I hope the trend continues.


It probably will. I was quite surprised to see a male on male kiss in Doctor Who, which is aimed at kids here. (Captain Jack and Rory Kinnear, if memory serves.) After that: yes, I have a strong feeling we'll see more of it.

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 7/29/2014 4:51:14 PM   
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Have to say it doesn't bother me if non-hetero couples kiss, hold hands, hug or other displays of public affection.
But it doesn't turn me on either. I'm not much into voyeurism/exhibitionism--doesn't rev my engine.

With "straight" guys? No way in hell. Nor between "straight" gals either, even if it's *just* kissing.
Straight-on-straight sex smacks to me of desperation or else adolescent sexual experimentation (private gender-segregated school, prison, stranded on a desert island, inappropriate physical contact, et al).

Settling for somebody other than whom you really want to be with, and using another human being for gratification, esp. as fuckbuddies, is not okay IMHO.

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 7/29/2014 5:05:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

Have to say it doesn't bother me if non-hetero couples kiss, hold hands, hug or other displays of public affection.
But it doesn't turn me on either. I'm not much into voyeurism/exhibitionism--doesn't rev my engine.

With "straight" guys? No way in hell. Nor between "straight" gals either, even if it's *just* kissing.
Straight-on-straight sex smacks to me of desperation or else adolescent sexual experimentation (private gender-segregated school, prison, stranded on a desert island, inappropriate physical contact, et al).

Settling for somebody other than whom you really want to be with, and using another human being for gratification, esp. as fuckbuddies, is not okay IMHO.



I see your point. But the things I am pointing out are actors (who are presumably straight, but of course, who knows) engaging in same sex kissing. I am not 100% what is flipping my trigger here, but I can guess at it.

I get off on the idea that one or both of these men are out of their comfort zone. Engaging in an act of intimacy. They are vulnerable. I like vulnerability. I like surrender. Seeing straight guys kissing (because they are actors, and this is their job and passion even if it's not comfortable for them, or is awkward, or weird, or even really, really difficult) is arousing -- for that reason.

So when I say "straight guys kissing" I don't mean two guys just making out for random reasons. I think the reason behind it is what makes it erotic. And in well-done filming, it's of course portrayed in a very sensual way.

I will admit, a lot of the arousal is my own imagination jacking me up. Of course, for some of these guys, the whole thing could be like, "Meh, it's my job. Doing a kissing scene with another guy is just as random as kissing a woman, don't care, it's what I do." Well, that's a killjoy! In my retched imagination, I psyche myself up that it's honestly a huge challenge, they feel nervous and uneasy, conflicted if they get aroused, and are also enduring it..for their ultimate goal of being good at what they do. (Pleasing) the director, perhaps?

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 7/29/2014 5:27:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

I see your point. But the things I am pointing out are actors (who are presumably straight, but of course, who knows) engaging in same sex kissing. I am not 100% what is flipping my trigger here, but I can guess at it.

I get off on the idea that one or both of these men are out of their comfort zone. Engaging in an act of intimacy. They are vulnerable. I like vulnerability. I like surrender. Seeing straight guys kissing (because they are actors, and this is their job and passion even if it's not comfortable for them, or is awkward, or weird, or even really, really difficult) is arousing -- for that reason.

So when I say "straight guys kissing" I don't mean two guys just making out for random reasons. I think the reason behind it is what makes it erotic. And in well-done filming, it's of course portrayed in a very sensual way.

I will admit, a lot of the arousal is my own imagination jacking me up. Of course, for some of these guys, the whole thing could be like, "Meh, it's my job. Doing a kissing scene with another guy is just as random as kissing a woman, don't care, it's what I do." Well, that's a killjoy! In my retched imagination, I psyche myself up that it's honestly a huge challenge, they feel nervous and uneasy, conflicted if they get aroused, and are also enduring it..for their ultimate goal of being good at what they do. (Pleasing) the director, perhaps?

Actors are professionals, and with some, this isn't a Hard Limit for them.

You must have really enjoyed watching "Brokeback Mountain," presumably both Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal being straight, that is.

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 7/29/2014 5:43:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

You must have really enjoyed watching "Brokeback Mountain," presumably both Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal being straight, that is.


I understand that only one of them is straight now.

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 7/29/2014 5:56:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

You {AAkasha} must have really enjoyed watching "Brokeback Mountain," presumably both Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal being straight, that is.

I understand that only one of them is straight now.

One of them is very dead--so N/A, but when he was filming, I think he became troubled with his own masculinity issues.

Jake, on the other hand, was secure enough in himself not to let it get to him, I think.

I see both of these actors as having been/being submissively inclined.

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 7/29/2014 6:22:02 PM   
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Aakasha, Yes.... the dream by Jason, both of him and Wharlo and the shaving scene and especially the Eric and Jason "dream" scene, even with its tongue in cheek atmosphere, was VERY hot... I have the clip downloaded, and also the penny dreadful scene tooo.
yummyness, im not gonna analyze why I like it, I just know i enjoy:)

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 7/29/2014 6:38:56 PM   
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Admittedly, m/m doesn't do much for me. I need at least one female in the scene to get me going. But, hey. The guys aren't doing it for my entertainment. ;)

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 7/30/2014 7:33:38 AM   
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I like it, too, but I don't connect it to being FemDom. Years ago, I was submissive and I liked the straight actor, Gale Harold, in his role as Brian Kinney on Queer As Folk. He kissed, spanked and rimmed his lover, Justin. Hal Sparks of MTV fame was also a straight actor playing sexually explicit gay scenes in QAF.

I think if you check youtube you can find an interview in which these straight male actors discuss how they handled it. Knowing who struggled may enhance your viewing experience. :)

Just yesterday, I saw a clip of The View, which showed straight actor, Scott Foley, kissing one of the hosts - who I don't know but he was wearing a lavender suit. LOL And, that wasn't acting. Foley plays Jake on Scandal. Also on that show is Jeff Perry. He's straight and portrays a very realistic gay man who comes out and marries his boyfriend. I think it is the best portrayal of gay marriage ever filmed.

I hate to burst your bubble, so I'll concede that some straight actors do struggle with it. But, actors do choose to accept their roles, so those who are seriously conflicted would reject the job. While they may not know the scripts in advance, they each have contracts which delineate their boundaries. For example: no nudity, only top-less, or no same sex, erotic contact.

The more common scenario in "the biz" is gay men acting in hetero roles. Rock Hudson. Jeremy Irons. Neal Patrick Harris.

Thanks for the interesting topic.

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 7/31/2014 1:06:55 PM   
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I don't know if this appropriate but although I consider myself straight I have participated in forced bi. I found the affect it had on my Dominant female partner was incredible and that created excitement for me. It is not something I enjoy watching in a movie or TV show because it is typically not a D/s scene.

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 8/2/2014 8:21:00 AM   
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I know from past posts on here, forced bi is a huge plus for a lot of Domme's and m/m kissing is bound to arouse many. x

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 8/2/2014 10:53:18 AM   
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I know from past posts on here, forced bi is a huge plus for a lot of Domme's and m/m kissing is bound to arouse many. x

Nope, not here--Hard Limit. A man entertaining this notion or having any bi-curious tendencies is a Hard Limit for me.
Neither with my close friends, so I don't know where you got this notion, unless the topic(s) was/were specifically related to this practice (or an offshoot of it).

There's nothing "forced" about forced bi, just like consensual non-consent BDSM still operates on a consensual basis.
Being supposedly so *devoted* to your Mistress-Master that you will do whatever they dictate without limits in the name of D/s is a load of crap.
This has little to do with genuine submission and more to do with wanting to be treated like your Dominant's sl-tty bitch, and they have honed in on this aspect of yourself.

FYI, not sure how relevant it is that we are more FLR-Female Led Relationship-oriented, non-sadistic, monogamous, straight lifestyle Dommes.
I have a sadistic Domme friend who only wants a totally straight male sub also.
Not all poly and/or bisexual Dommes are into this either, although they and Cuckoldresses may be more prone to be open about having a hetero-flexible sub partner.
Just my 2 cents on the subject.

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 8/2/2014 7:31:01 PM   
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Our world is messed up. And let's face it, it is because of the male's inability to deal with other males. It's the archaic Alpha male / Beta male thing. So, if we, as Dominant Women, make all men kiss, maybe our world will become a better place. Really - - - - in some society's, some cultures, it is OK for men to kiss. And those cultures are happy. Maybe it is time men step up to the plate, pucker up, and give another guy a deep wet one!!!! You all love it when women kiss. It's time men kiss. The salvation of the human race depends on it!!!!!

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 8/2/2014 10:26:51 PM   
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Ymmv, but two straight men kissing is bi-
And "forced' bi- is not forced, and is therefore bi- AND topping from the bottom. Yawn.
In real life, neither is attractive to me. In my one mmF, both guys were straight and never kissed.
However, gay porn with two hot guys?! My favourite! Haven't seen any good Domme strap-on porn (never saw one where her nipples were erect, let alone that she came in his ass), so gay porn is the next best for me.
Looking forward to Eric/ryan making out.

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 8/2/2014 11:50:22 PM   
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hauser - ROFLMAO... I think I love you! Awesome post!
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Our world is messed up. And let's face it, it is because of the male's inability to deal with other males. It's the archaic Alpha male / Beta male thing. So, if we, as Dominant Women, make all men kiss, maybe our world will become a better place. Really - - - - in some society's, some cultures, it is OK for men to kiss. And those cultures are happy. Maybe it is time men step up to the plate, pucker up, and give another guy a deep wet one!!!! You all love it when women kiss. It's time men kiss. The salvation of the human race depends on it!!!!!


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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 8/3/2014 1:02:34 AM   
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I love it...and I saw that kiss between Eric and Jason....it was awesome!!!!!

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RE: So ladies....Straight guys kissing? - 8/3/2014 2:44:00 AM   
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I will admit, a lot of the arousal is my own imagination jacking me up. Of course, for some of these guys, the whole thing could be like, "Meh, it's my job. Doing a kissing scene with another guy is just as random as kissing a woman, don't care, it's what I do." Well, that's a killjoy! In my retched imagination, I psyche myself up that it's honestly a huge challenge, they feel nervous and uneasy, conflicted if they get aroused, and are also enduring it..for their ultimate goal of being good at what they do. (Pleasing) the director, perhaps?

Akasha


If that excites you then I'd suggest most on screen kissing and sex might fit the bill, regardless of gender. Every stage kiss I've ever done has been awkward as fuck (at least the first couple of times). It's really hard to act aroused and get physically intimate with someone you didn't pick for yourself. Even weirder when you have a dozen other people standing around watching and directing. Usually you only have one person at a time judging your technique.

Still remember my first one... poor guy was trembling with fear.

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