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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 3:50:54 PM   
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Can some one explain exactly why Dresden even matters? Germany bombed fleeing civilian targets in Poland, and used several towns as literal bombing experiments because they lacked any kind of air defense and the birds could just loiter in the air with out fear of reprisal... But not a single Luftwaffe Pilot, Officer, or Unit was ever charged with Intentionally targeting Civilians because it wasn't illegal at the time. It was only made a War Crime in the years After World War 2.


It doesn't particularly, which is why there's a faction of holocaust deniers obsessed with it. They think that by inflating the death count from Dresden and minimising the death toll from the camps, the two can be made to look equivalent, and so the systematic massacre of large numbers of civilians can be dismissed as no big deal, because the results were no worse than a bombing raid.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 3:52:01 PM   
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Can some one explain exactly why Dresden even matters? Germany bombed fleeing civilian targets in Poland, and used several towns as literal bombing experiments because they lacked any kind of air defense and the birds could just loiter in the air with out fear of reprisal... But not a single Luftwaffe Pilot, Officer, or Unit was ever charged with Intentionally targeting Civilians because it wasn't illegal at the time. It was only made a War Crime in the years After World War 2.




STANDING WAR CRIMES


SUBTERFUGE, HYPOCRISY, LIES BY BRITAIN AND THE US and their ZIONIST handlers



You never bothered to look and you dont know, just out here spouting more disinfo and of course the whore follows suit.


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Hypocrisy is the contrivance of a false appearance of virtue or goodness, while concealing real character or inclinations, especially with respect to religious and moral beliefs; hence in general sense, dissimulation, pretense, sham.



Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague, II), July 29, 1899

CONVENTION WITH RESPECT TO THE LAWS AND CUSTOMS OF WAR ON LAND
The Hague, July 29, 1899


[Ratified by the U.S. Senate on March 14, 1902]

[excerpts]

ARTICLE XXII

The right of belligerents to adopt means of injuring the enemy is not unlimited.

ARTICLE XXIII

Besides the prohibitions provided by special Conventions, it is especially prohibited:

a. To employ poison or poisoned arms;

b. To kill or wound treacherously individuals belonging to the hostile nation or army;

c. To kill or wound an enemy who, having laid down arms, or having no longer means of defence, has surrendered at discretion;

d. To employ arms, projectiles, or material of a nature to cause superfluous injury;

f. ...

ARTICLE XXV

The attack or bombardment of towns, villages, habitations or buildings which are not defended, is prohibited.

ARTICLE XXVI

The Commander of an attacking force, before commencing a bombardment, except in case of an assault, should do all he can to warn the authorities.

ARTICLE XXVII

In sieges and bombardments all necessary steps should be taken to spare as far as possible edifices devoted to religion, art, science, and charity, hospitals, and places where the sick and wounded are collected, provided they are not used at the same time for military purposes.

The besieged should indicate these buildings or places by some particular and visible signs, which should previously be notified to the assailants.
Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague, IV), October 18, 1907

CONVENTION RESPECTING THE LAWS AND CUSTOMS OF WAR ON LAND
The Hague, October 18, 1907

[Ratified by the U.S. Senate on March 10, 1908]

[excerpts]

ARTICLE XXII

The right of belligerents to adopt means of injuring the enemy is not unlimited.

ARTICLE XXIII

In addition to the prohibitions provided by special Conventions, it is especially forbidden:

(a) To employ poison or poisoned weapons;

(b) To kill or wound treacherously individuals belonging to the hostile nation or army;

(c) To kill or wound an enemy who, having laid down his arms, or having no longer means of defense, has surrendered at discretion;

(d) To declare that no quarter will be given;

(e) To employ arms, projectiles, or material calculated to cause unnecessary suffering;

(f) ...

ARTICLE XXV

The attack or bombardment, by whatever means, of towns, villages, dwellings, or buildings which are undefended is prohibited.

ARTICLE XXVI

The officer in command of an attacking force must, before commencing a bombardment, except in cases of assault, do all in his power to warn the authorities.

ARTICLE XXVII

In sieges and bombardments all necessary steps must be taken to spare, as far as possible, buildings dedicated to religion, art, science, or charitable purposes, historic monuments, hospitals, and places where the sick and wounded are collected, provided that they are not being used at the time for military purposes.

It is the duty of the besieged to indicated the presence of such buildings or places by distinctive and visible signs, which shall be notified to the enemy beforehand.
Draft Rules of Aerial Warfare, The Hague, February 1923

RULES OF AERIAL WARFARE
The Hague, February 1923

[Although drafted as the basis for an international treaty, the enactment of which was supported by the United States, these rules were never formally adopted]

[excerpts]

ARTICLE XXII

Aerial bombardment for the purpose of terrorizing the civilian population, of destroying or damaging private property not of military character, or of injuring non-combatants is prohibited.

ARTICLE XXIII

Aerial bombardment for the purpose of enforcing compliance with requisitions in kind or payment of contributions in money is prohibited.

ARTICLE XXIV

(1) Aerial bombardment is legitimate only when directed at a military objective, that is to say, an object of which the destruction or injury would constitute a distinct military advantage to the belligerent.

(2) Such bombardment is legitimate only when directed exclusively at the following objectives: military forces; military works; military establishments or depots; factories constituting important and well-known centres engaged in the manufacture of arms, ammunition or distinctively military supplies; lines of communication or transportation used for military purposes.

(3) The bombardment of cities, towns, villages, dwellings or buildings not in the immediate neighborhood of the operations of land forces is prohibited. In cases where the objectives specified in paragraph 2 are so situated, that they cannot be bombarded without the indiscriminate bombardment of the civilian population, the aircraft must abstain from bombardment.

(4) In the immediate neighborhood of the operations of land forces, the bombardment of cities, towns, villages, dwellings or buildings is legitimate provided that there exists a reasonable presumption that the military concentration is sufficiently important to justify such bombardment, having regard to the danger thus posed to the civilian population.

(5) A belligerent state is liable to pay compensation for injuries to person or to property caused by violation by any of its officers or forces of the provisions of this article.

ARTICLE XXV

In bombardment by aircraft, all necessary steps must be taken by the commander to spare as far as possible buildings dedicated to public worship, art, science, or charitable purposes, historic monuments, hospital ships, hospitals and other places where the sick and wounded are collected, provided such buildings, objects, or places are not at the time used for military purposes. Such buildings, objects, and places must by day be indicated by marks visible to aircraft. The use of marks to indicate other buildings, objects, or places than those specified above is to be deemed an act of perfidy. The marks used as aforesaid shall be in the case of buildings protected under the Geneva Convention the red cross on a white background, and in the case of other protected buildings a large rectangular panel divided diagonally into two pointed triangular portions, one black and the other white.

A belligerent who desires to secure by night the protection for the hospitals and other privileged buildings above mentioned must take the necessary measures to render the special signs referred to sufficiently visible.
Protection of Civilian Populations Against Bombing From the Air in Case of War, League of Nations, September 30, 1938

PROTECTION OF CIVILIAN POPULATIONS AGAINST BOMBING FROM THE AIR IN CASE OF WAR
Unanimous resolution of the League of Nations Assembly,
September 30, 1938.

The Assembly,

Considering that on numerous occasions public opinion has expressed through the most authoritative channels its horror of the bombing of civilian populations;

Considering that this practice, for which there is no military necessity and which, as experience shows, only causes needless suffering, is condemned under the recognised principles of international law;

Considering further that, though this principle ought to be respected by all States and does not require further reaffirmation, it urgently needs to be made the subject of regulations specially adapted to air warfare and taking account of the lessons of experience;

Considering that the solution of this problem, which is of concern to all States, whether Members of the League of Nations or not, calls for technical investigation and thorough consideration;

Considering that the Bureau of the Conference for the Reduction and Limitation of Armaments is to meet in the near future and that it is for the Bureau to consider practical means of undertaking the necessary work under conditions most likely to lead to as general an agreement as possible:

I. Recognizes the following principles as a necessary basis for any subsequent regulations:

1) The intentional bombing of civilian populations is illegal;

2) Objectives aimed at from the air must be legitimate military objectives and must be identifiable;

3) Any attack on legitimate military objectives must be carried out in such a way that civilian populations in the neighbourhood are not bombed through negligence;

II. Also takes the opportunity to reaffirm that the use of chemical or bacterial methods in the conduct of war is contrary to international law, as recalled more particularly in the resolution of the General Commission of the Conference for the Reduction and Limitation of Armaments of July 23rd 1932, and the resolution of the Council of May 14th, 1938.
Appeal of President Franklin D. Roosevelt on Aerial Bombardment of Civilian Populations, September 1, 1939

The President of the United States to the Governments of France, Germany, Italy, Poland and His Britannic Majesty, September 1, 1939

The ruthless bombing from the air of civilians in unfortified centers of population during the course of the hostilities which have raged in various quarters of the earth during the past few years, which has resulted in the maiming and in the death of thousands of defenseless men, women, and children, has sickened the hearts of every civilized man and woman, and has profoundly shocked the conscience of humanity.

If resort is had to this form of inhuman barbarism during the period of the tragic conflagration with which the world is now confronted, hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings who have no responsibility for, and who are not even remotely participating in, the hostilities which have now broken out, will lose their lives. I am therefore addressing this urgent appeal to every government which may be engaged in hostilities publicly to affirm its determination that its armed forces shall in no event, and under no circumstances, undertake the bombardment from the air of civilian populations or of unfortified cities, upon the understanding that these same rules of warfare will be scrupulously observed by all of their opponents. I request an immediate reply.

FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT
Nuremberg Principles, August 8, 1945

CHARTER OF THE INTERNATIONAL MILITARY TRIBUNAL
AUGUST 8, 1945

[Signatories: USA, USSR, Britain, France]

[excerpts]

ARTICLE VI

[excerpt]

The following acts, or any of them, are crimes coming within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal for which there shall be individual responsibility:

(a) Crimes against peace: namely, planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances, or participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the foregoing;

(b) War Crimes: namely, violations of the laws or customs of war. Such violations shall include, but not be limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation to slave labor or for any other purpose of civilian population of or in occupied territory, murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns, or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity;

(c) Crimes against humanity: namely, murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation, and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian populations, before or during the war; or prosecutions on political, racial or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated.

Leaders, organizers, instigators and accomplices participating in the formulation or execution of a common plan or conspiracy to commit any of the foregoing crimes are responsible for all acts performed by any persons in execution of such plan.

ARTICLE VII

The official position of defendants, whether as Heads of States or responsible officials in Government Departments, shall not be considered as freeing them from responsibility or mitigating punishment.

ARTICLE VIII

The fact that the Defendant acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior shall not free him from responsibility, but may be considered in mitigation of punishment if the Tribunal determines that justice so requires.
Geneva Convention IV, August 12, 1949

CONVENTION RELATIVE TO THE PROTECTION OF CIVILIAN PERSONS IN TIME OF WAR
Geneva, August 12, 1949

[excerpts]

PART II. GENERAL PROTECTION OF POPULATIONS AGAINST CERTAIN CONSEQUENCES OF WAR

ARTICLE XIII

The provisions of Part II cover the whole of the populations of the countries in conflict, without any adverse distinction based, in particular, on race, nationality, religion or political opinion, and are intended to alleviate the sufferings caused by war...

ARTICLE XVI

The wounded and sick, as well as the infirm, and expectant mothers, shall be the object of particular protection and respect...

ARTICLE XVIII

Civilian hospitals organized to give care to the wounded and sick, the infirm and maternity cases, may in no circumstances be the object of attack, but shall at all times be respected and protected by the Parties to the conflict...
Resolution on Nuclear Weapons, United Nations, November 24, 1961

RESOLUTION ON NUCLEAR WEAPONS
United Nations, November 24, 1961
General Assembly Resolution 1653

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY,

Mindful of its responsibility under the Charter of the United Nations in the maintenance of international peace and security, as well as in the consideration of principles governing disarmament,

Gravely concerned that, while negotiations on disarmament have not so far achieved satisfactory results, the armaments race, particularly in the nuclear and thermo-nuclear fields, has reached a dangerous stage requiring all possible precautionary measures to protect humanity and civilization from the hazard of nuclear and thermo-nuclear catastrophe,

Recalling that the use of weapons of mass destruction, causing unnecessary human suffering, was in the past prohibited, as being contrary to the laws of humanity and to the principles of international law, by international declarations and binding agreements, such as the Declaration of St. Petersburg of 1868, the Declaration of the Brussels Conference of 1874, the Conventions of the Hague Peace Conferences of 1899 and 1907, and the Geneva Protocol of 1925, to which the majority of nations are still parties,

Considering that the use of nuclear and thermo-nuclear weapons would bring about indiscriminate suffering and destruction to mankind and civilization to an even greater extent than the use of those weapons declared by the aforementioned international declarations and agreements to be contrary to the laws of humanity and a crime under international law,

Believing that the use of weapons of mass destruction, such as nuclear and thermo-nuclear weapons, is a direct negation of the high ideals and objectives which the United Nations has been established to achieve through the protection of succeeding generations from the scourge of war and through the preservation and promotion of their cultures,

I. Declares that:

(a) The use of nuclear and thermo-nuclear weapons is contrary to the spirit, letter and aims of the United Nations and, as such, a direct violation of the Charter of the United Nations;

(b) The use of nuclear and thermo-nuclear weapons would exceed even the scope of war and cause indiscriminate suffering and destruction to mankind and civilization and, as such, is contrary to the rules of international law and to the laws of humanity;

(c) The use of nuclear and thermo-nuclear weapons is a war directed not against an enemy or enemies alone but also against mankind in general, since the peoples of the world not involved in such a war will be subjected to all the evils generated by the use of such weapons;

(d) Any State using nuclear or thermo-nuclear weapons is to be considered as violating the Charter of the United Nations, as acting contrary to the laws of humanity and as committing a crime against mankind and civilization;

2. Requests the Secretary-General to consult with the Governments of Member States to ascertain their views on the possibility of convening a special conference for signing a convention on the prohibition of the use of nuclear and thermo-nuclear weapons for war purposes and to report on the results of such consultation to the General Assembly at its seventeenth session.
Resolution on Human Rights, United Nations, December 19, 1968

RESOLUTION ON HUMAN RIGHTS
United Nations, December 19, 1968
General Assembly Resolution 2444

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY,

Recognizing the necessity of applying basic humanitarian principles in all armed conflicts,

Taking note of resolution XXIII on human rights in armed conflicts, adopted on 12 May 1968 by the International Conference on Human Rights,

Affirming that the provisions of that resolution need to be implemented effectively as soon as possible,

1. Affirms resolution XXVIII of the XXth International Conference of the Red Cross held at Vienna in 1965, which laid down, inter alia, the following principles for observance by all governmental and other authorities responsible for action in armed conflicts:

(a) That the right of the parties to a conflict to adopt means of injuring the enemy is not unlimited;

(b) That it is prohibited to launch attacks against the civilian populations as such;

(c) That distinction must be made at all times between persons taking part in the hostilities and members of the civilian population to the effect that the latter be spared as much as possible;

2. Invites the Secretary-General, in consultation with the International Committee of the Red Cross and other appropriate international organizations, to study:

(a) Steps which could be taken to secure the better application of existing humanitarian international conventions and rules in all armed conflicts;

(b) The need for additional humanitarian international conventions or for other appropriate legal instruments to ensure the better protection of civilians, prisoners and combatants in all armed conflicts and the prohibition and limitation of the use of certain methods and means of warfare;

3. Requests the Secretary-General to take all other necessary steps to give effect to the provisions of the present resolution and to report to the General Assembly at its twenty-fourth on the steps he has taken;

4. Further requests Member States to extend all possible assistance to the Secretary-General in the preparation of the study requested in paragraph 2 above;

5. Calls upon all States which have not yet done so to become parties to the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907, the Geneva Protocol of 1925 and the Geneva Conventions of 1949.
On the Legality of the Threat or Use of Nuclear Weapons, International Court of Justice, July 8, 1996

On the Legality of the Threat or Use of Nuclear Weapons
International Court of Justice
The Hague, 8 July 1996

The opinion of the International Court of Justice (“World Court”) came in response to a request from the United Nations General Assembly. The Court found that the threat or use of nuclear weapons “would generally be contrary to the rules of international law applicable in armed conflict.” However, the Court was unable to make a determination “in an extreme circumstance of self-defence, in which the very survival of a State would be at stake.”

In general, the Court based its ruling on the body of international law protecting civilian populations. Its analysis cited specifically Hague II and IV, the Nuremberg Principles, and the Geneva Conventions.

Only the conclusion of the opinion is included here. For more information, see the summary of the opinion on the website of the International Court of Justice.

[104 paragraphs omitted]

105. For these reasons,
THE COURT

(1) By thirteen votes to one,
DECIDES to comply with the request for an advisory opinion;

IN FAVOUR: PRESIDENT Bedjaoui; VICE-PRESIDENT Schwebel, JUDGES Guillaume, Shahabuddeen, Weeramantry, Ranjeva, Herczegh, Shi, Fleischhauer, Koroma, Vereshchetin, Ferrari Bravo, Higgins;
AGAINST: JUDGE Oda

(2) REPLIES in the following manner to the question put by the General Assembly:

A. Unanimously,

There is in neither customary nor conventional international law any specific authorisation of the threat or use of nuclear weapons;

B. By eleven votes to three,

There is in neither customary nor conventional international law any comprehensive and universal prohibition of the threat or use of nuclear weapons as such;

IN FAVOUR: PRESIDENT Bedjaoui; VICE-PRESIDENT Schwebel; JUDGES Oda, Guillaume, Ranjeva, Herczegh, Shi, Fleischhauer, Vereshchetin, Ferrari Bravo, Higgins;
AGAINST: JUDGES Shahabuddeen, Veeramantry, Koroma

C. Unanimously,

A threat or use of force by means of nuclear weapons that is contrary to Article 2, paragraph 4 of the United Nations Charter and that fails to meet all the requirements of Article 51 is unlawful;

D. Unanimously,

A threat or use of nuclear weapons should also be compatible with the requirements of the international law applicable in armed conflict particularly those of the principles and rules of international humanitarian law, as well as with specific obligations under treaties and other undertakings which expressly deal with nuclear weapons;

E. By seven votes to seven, by the President’s casting vote,

It follows from the above-mentioned requirements that the threat or use of nuclear weapons would generally be contrary to the rules of international law applicable in armed conflict, and in particular the principles and rules of humanitarian law;

However, in view of the current state of International Law, and of the elements of fact at its disposal, the Court cannot conclude definitively whether the threat or use of nuclear weapons would be lawful or unlawful in an extreme circumstance of self-defence, in which the very survival of a State would be at stake;

IN FAVOUR: PRESIDENT Bedjaoui, JUDGE Renjeva, Herczegh, Shi, Fleischhauer, Vereschetin, Ferrari Bravo;
AGAINST: VICE-PRESIDENT Schwebel; JUDGES: Oda, Guillaume, Shahabuddeen, Weeramantry, Koroma Higgins.

F. Unanimously,

There exists an obligation to pursue in good faith and bring to a conclusion negotiations leading to nuclear disarmament in all its aspects under strict and effective international control.

Done in English and French, the English text being authoritative, at the Peace Palace, the Hague, this eighth day of July, one thousand nine hundred and ninety six, in two copies, one of which will be placed in the archives of the Court and the other transmitted to the Secretary-General of the United Nations.
Sources and further reading:

The documents quoted here are reprinted in many sources more widely available than the original official publications, so no original citations have been given. Two good sources, which contain many of these documents, are:

Leon Friedman (Ed.), The Law of War: A Documentary History (New York: Random House, 1972).

Adam Roberts and Richard Guelff (Eds.), Documents on the Laws of War, Third Edition (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2000).

The full texts of many of these treaties, and others, are available on the Tufts University Rules of Warfare, Arms Control page, and the Avalon Project at Yale Law School page The Laws of War.




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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 3:57:16 PM   
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Can some one explain exactly why Dresden even matters? Germany bombed fleeing civilian targets in Poland, and used several towns as literal bombing experiments because they lacked any kind of air defense and the birds could just loiter in the air with out fear of reprisal... But not a single Luftwaffe Pilot, Officer, or Unit was ever charged with Intentionally targeting Civilians because it wasn't illegal at the time. It was only made a War Crime in the years After World War 2.


It doesn't particularly, which is why there's a faction of holocaust deniers obsessed with it. They think that by inflating the death count from Dresden and minimising the death toll from the camps, the two can be made to look equivalent, and so the systematic massacre of large numbers of civilians can be dismissed as no big deal, because the results were no worse than a bombing raid.



really? so you now have the audacity to claim that eye witnesses and victims to the event are holocaust deniers? Do you even have 2 brain cells to rub together?




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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 4:01:38 PM   
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whore why dont you help snotty out? He has a real problem with the multitude of fallacies you are drumming as fact, that always seem to vaporize when people open their eyes and take as little as a cursory look!


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not even, the whore said that the red cross records have been debunked as bullshit, which leaves us with the records that the russians released that are held by the jewish archives that I posted a mega zillion posts ago which showed that less than a 100 thousand people total were lost in all the camps combined and less then 20,000 were jews and the bulk of those people lost were due to disease, and that the remaining jews (2 million) were deported out of germany. Now whore didnt know that because whore instead of reading the evidence continues to bleat about 6 million, when in fact between churchill, eisenhower and the zionist (mostly counterfeit ashkeNazi jews) run prison camps that despite plentiful food supplies starved and exterminated germans because they were german and slaughtered 6 million AFTER the war was over.

All the while they were hanging the nazis at nurmenburg. Can you suck larger nuts?

When are you not drunk?

Good then you can tell us about the hitler sanctioned jewish sections of Berlin found at the end of the war, seems to me approximtely 250,000 jews were sanctioned by hitler to live in berlin.

Seems hitler is a monumental failure if we are to believe his policy was to exterminate jews.


Hell he forgot to exterminat the jews in his own damn army snotty WTF????



As Many As 150000 Jews Served In Hitlers Military

http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/as-many-as-150000-jews-served-in-hitlers-military/


WOW Hitler was surrounded by jews!

‘Jewish’ Senior Officers In Hitler’s Army: Erhard Milch, Wilhelm Keitel, Walther von Brauchitsch, Erich Raeder, and Maximilian von Weichs.






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Churchill said that, "He wasn't aware there was a Germany, having spent his military career in South Africa”.

But I'll give it a think, sometime when I am drunk.


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FFS you are lame






How the flying fuck did that happen snotty?







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Can some one explain exactly why Dresden even matters? Germany bombed fleeing civilian targets in Poland, and used several towns as literal bombing experiments because they lacked any kind of air defense and the birds could just loiter in the air with out fear of reprisal... But not a single Luftwaffe Pilot, Officer, or Unit was ever charged with Intentionally targeting Civilians because it wasn't illegal at the time. It was only made a War Crime in the years After World War 2.


It doesn't particularly, which is why there's a faction of holocaust deniers obsessed with it. They think that by inflating the death count from Dresden and minimising the death toll from the camps, the two can be made to look equivalent, and so the systematic massacre of large numbers of civilians can be dismissed as no big deal, because the results were no worse than a bombing raid.



really? so you now have the audacity to claim that eye witnesses and victims to the event are holocaust deniers? Do you even have 2 brain cells to rub together?




These half million dead victims you keep banging on about, you mean? No wonder you can't provide any citations for your claims if you're getting your facts about the bombing of Dresden through an ouija board.


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Hes gone full retard again hes got Keitel as eine Juden.

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and the only place on the planet left for you to go is full nutsuck!

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These half million dead victims you keep banging on about, you mean? No wonder you can't provide any citations for your claims if you're getting your facts about the bombing of Dresden through an ouija board.



but you are lying again



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Don’t get me started on the French, let alone the Swiss Whoremods

Heh real1 gonna post that picture of 80 billion at trumpaloons inauguration? - and this bizarre fixation your thicko mind has with Dresden




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The author Kurt Vonnegut was a prisoner of war in Dresden during the allied bombing raids and was later forced to dig out bodies from the ruined city. In papers discovered by his son after his death last year, he provides a searing eyewitness account of the ‘obscene brutality’ that inspired his novel Slaughterhouse-Five

In 1945 Dresden had 400,000 inhabitants and per Kurt Vonnegut was saturated with an equal number of fugitives. [*not fugitives but Germans who were ex-pulsed from their Eastern homeland countries, or fled from the oncoming murderous Polish and Russian hords, as well as the other Allied soldiers*] (See above) http://mattstodayinhistory.blogspot.com/2006/02/dresden-bombed-february-14-1945.html


Nolywaika “Die Sieger im Schatten ihrer Schuld: 1.5 Million women and children and elderly had to be evacuated from the Reich’s Eastern German area due to bombing. Adding the bombing evacuees from other German areas, it came to 2 to 2.5 Millions evacuees from Germany due to bombing. http://www.germanvictims.com/allied-crimes-alliierte-verbrechen/bombs-for-valentines/

How approximately 500,000 Germans were "democratically" exterminated in one night Reverend Ludwig A. Fritsch, Ph. D., D. D. emer., Chicago, 1948

Dresden Death toll – 400,000 - Dr. Claus Nordbruch


Of 28,410 houses in central Dresden,
24,866 were destroyed.
15 sq km totally demolished—of which there were:
14,000 homes,
72 schools,
22 hospitals,
19 churches,
5 theaters,
50 banks,
31 dept stores,
31 hotels,
62 administrative buildings.
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No one can blame, in fact it would be utter insanity to blame poor targetting for fire bombing that BY DESIGN was conducted to first trap the inhabitants into the center of the holocaust fire then completely level and destroy 87% of all RESIDENTIAL housing with its inhabitants, hospitals, churches, and even released british POWs






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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 4:25:37 PM   
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except that is all unsourced retard cartoons as is everything you have posted on this site ever.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 4:29:26 PM   
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meanwhile you, whore and disinfo man all want everyone to accept you as a source when none of you have been correct on anything anywhere in this thread.

As a consolation you all are doing well as comedians....


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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 4:37:22 PM   
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but the zionists now fully own germany, europe at large, which is why they imposed their religion upon you, I choose to believe the original witnesses the mayr police and city autorities who were in charge of cleanup and on site, not some contrived self justified coup agenda bullshit



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Thats ok because I dont believe for one fucking second you are german. If you are and talking the shit you are then you deserve the zionist religion that has been shoved square up your asses as law.

Zionist Jews put German POW's in over 1000 prison camps AFTER THE WAR where most died of torture and starvation.


The Zionist Jewish Revenge Against Germans in 1945








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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 6:09:19 PM   
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Thats fine, because not one person here beleives you are any more than a profound retard.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 7:48:41 PM   
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These half million dead victims you keep banging on about, you mean? No wonder you can't provide any citations for your claims if you're getting your facts about the bombing of Dresden through an ouija board.


these six million dead 'jews' you keep banging on about, you mean? No wonder you can't provide any citations for your claims if you're getting your facts about the holohoax through an ouija board.

PS: How are getting on with those pics of your tattooed jewskin lampshade coming along? I'm dying to see it. Especially the pretty little delft swallows.



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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 9:27:50 PM   
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RULES OF AERIAL WARFARE
The Hague, February 1923

[Although drafted as the basis for an international treaty, the enactment of which was supported by the United States, these rules were never formally adopted]



What is the point of posting a massive wall of text if you don't care to even read what you post?
What's more - because the United States never joined the 'League of Nations' it's ability to enforce what it defined as 'international law' was laughable at best.


And like i mentioned before...
If air based attacks of Civilian Targets was a War Crime... then why is it when Germany bombed Non-military Polish towns, Strafed fleeing Refugee's, and literally experiment bombing strategy on cities that lacked any type of air defense what so ever - no one was ever formally charged for war crimes committed by the Luftwaffe?

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 9:39:42 PM   
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Dresden was retribution for Coventry. Roughly one in ten German soldiers came back from captivity. 80% of German women in the Russian occupied ares were repeatedly raped by Russian soldiers. Any civilians who resisted were shot. We have clear footage of the clean up of the last death camps,and testimony from the few survivors. SS was very thorough in trying to hide traces of what they had done. But those massive piles of bone dust left over told the story well enough-and the teeth.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 10:11:11 PM   
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Dresden was retribution for Coventry. Roughly one in ten German soldiers came back from captivity. 80% of German women in the Russian occupied ares were repeatedly raped by Russian soldiers. Any civilians who resisted were shot. We have clear footage of the clean up of the last death camps,and testimony from the few survivors. SS was very thorough in trying to hide traces of what they had done. But those massive piles of bone dust left over told the story well enough-and the teeth.


what about coventry? huh? retribution? I already went through through this crap with the whore earlier in the thread. Britain drew first blood and bombed german ports the day after they declared war.

good, post your clear footage of 6 million holocausted jews, whore has been dodging that lil problem since the beginning of the thread. Glad he has someone to finally help him out

They did not such thing, the russians had all the camp records, the only thing that is thorough is that you took wooden nickels as fact

which camp was a 'death' camp again? got proof? We know they were labor camps rtell us all about this death you are claiming, another one whore dropped like a hot potato


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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 10:13:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

RULES OF AERIAL WARFARE
The Hague, February 1923

[Although drafted as the basis for an international treaty, the enactment of which was supported by the United States, these rules were never formally adopted]



What is the point of posting a massive wall of text if you don't care to even read what you post?
What's more - because the United States never joined the 'League of Nations' it's ability to enforce what it defined as 'international law' was laughable at best.


And like i mentioned before...
If air based attacks of Civilian Targets was a War Crime... then why is it when Germany bombed Non-military Polish towns, Strafed fleeing Refugee's, and literally experiment bombing strategy on cities that lacked any type of air defense what so ever - no one was ever formally charged for war crimes committed by the Luftwaffe?



[Ratified by the U.S. Senate on March 14, 1902]

I didnt see any citation from you about germany doing anything to the polish.




Convention (IV) respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land and its annex: Regulations concerning the Laws and Customs of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.

STATES PARTIES

SIGNATURE

RATIFICATION / ACCESSION [1]

RESERVATION / DECLARATION [2]
Austria 18.10.1907 27.11.1909 27.11.1909
Belarus 04.06.1962
Belgium 18.10.1907 08.08.1910
Bolivia 18.10.1907 27.11.1909
Brazil 18.10.1907 05.01.1914
China 10.05.1917
Cuba 18.10.1907 22.02.1912
Denmark 18.10.1907 27.11.1909
Dominican Republic 18.10.1907 16.05.1958
El Salvador 18.10.1907 27.11.1909
Ethiopia 05.08.1935
Fiji 02.04.1973
Finland 30.12.1918
France 18.10.1907 07.10.1910
Germany 18.10.1907 27.11.1909 27.11.1909
Guatemala 18.10.1907 15.03.1911
Haiti 18.10.1907 02.02.1910
Hungary 18.10.1907 27.11.1909 27.11.1909
Japan 18.10.1907 13.12.1911 13.12.1911
Liberia 04.02.1914
Luxembourg 18.10.1907 05.09.1912
Mexico 18.10.1907 27.11.1909
Netherlands 18.10.1907 27.11.1909
Nicaragua 16.12.1909
Norway 18.10.1907 19.09.1910
Palestine 02.04.2014
Panama 18.10.1907 11.09.1911
Poland 09.05.1925
Portugal 18.10.1907 13.04.1911
Romania 18.10.1907 01.03.1912
Russian Federation 18.10.1907 27.11.1909 27.11.1909
South Africa 10.03.1978
Sweden 18.10.1907 27.11.1909
Switzerland 18.10.1907 12.05.1910
Thailand 18.10.1907 12.03.1910
Ukraine 29.05.2015
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland 18.10.1907 27.11.1909
United States of America 18.10.1907 27.11.1909

1) Ratification : a treaty is generally open for signature for a certain time following the conference which has adopted it. However, a signature is not binding on a State unless it has been endorsed by ratification. The time limits having elapsed, the Conventions and the Protocols are no longer open for signature. The States which have not signed them may at any time accede or, in the appropriate circumstances, succeed to them.
Accession : instead of signing and then ratifying a treaty, a State may become party to it by the single act called accession.
2) Reservation / Declaration : unilateral statement, however phrased or named, made by a State when ratifying, acceding or succeeding to a treaty, whereby it purports to exclude or to modify the legal effect of certain provisions of the treaty in their application to that State (provided that such reservations are not incompatible with the object and purpose of the treaty).

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 10:31:20 PM   
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The Forced War



Polish Atrocities Against the German Minority in Poland

Edited and published by order of the Foreign Office, Volk und Reich Verlag Berlin, 2nd. revised ed., 1940, 311 pp. Volk und Reich Verlag logo

GERMANS: ABUSED MINORITY!


An odd concept you may have never heard of. But it happened.

Atrocity photos you'll never see on the History Channel.

"Poland wants war with Germany and Germany will not be able to avoid it even if she wants to." (Polish Marshal Rydz-Smigly as reported in the Daily Mail, August 6th, 1939)

For Hitler's viewpoint, see link at bottom.

The historical record, as represented by the German government at the time, on Bromberg "Bloody Sunday" and related incidents -- 58,000 claimed dead or missing by Feb 1940.* The German invasion was Sep 1939, but it's important to understand that many of the outrages had preceded the German invasion. This was proved by the amount of decomposition of the bodies. Thus, these atrocities cannot be excused simply as reprisals for the German invasion (which would be wrong anyway). They included 19 year-old girls with their faces smashed, amputations, disembowelments, shot thru' the eye, death-trauma births, you name it. Poles had been merrily slaughtering anything or anybody German since at least as early as April 1939, with smaller incidents stretching back to the close of WW I -- you haven't been told that by the Mass Media, or the fact that these atrocities were one of the main causes for the German invasion of Poland, something that was meant by the Germans to be a local solution to a local problem. Germany had already done the "right thing" by protesting in writing to the League of Nations literally dozens of times. The League of Nations did nothing, yet the problem had to be solved. [Photo at left: Polski marshal Rydz-Smigly, burdened with the weight of numerous medals. As soon as his army started to lose, this bragging Polish "warrior" ran away to Romania, leaving his troops in a lurch! Yet to this day, no opprobrium is cast his way by the establishment media. Why not?]

Subsequent to the German invasion, Britain declared war on Germany, yet after the Soviet Union invaded the eastern Polish territory only a few weeks later, Britain neglected to declare war on the Soviet Union. Why not, if the integrity of Poland's borders was so important? Inquiring minds want to know. After using these incidents as obvious pretext (the real purpose being to take down Germany as an economic rival and arch anti-NWO force), Britain then began bombing the Ruhr Valley the day after Churchill took office (May 10, 1940), specifically targeting civilian areas in addition to industrial and military targets. The rest is history -- a shameful and gut-wrenching one.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 10:50:50 PM   
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I didnt see any citation from you about germany doing anything to the polish.


Bombing of Wielun?
seriously?

The event which drove all nations into a global conflict... The literal start of World War 2...
I shouldn't have to cite it any more then i would have to cite Pearl Harbor...

what ever...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Wielu%C5%84





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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/22/2017 11:01:15 PM   
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so whats your point? hitler bombed poland so what? That the bombing of poland was the start of the war?




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