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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 8:20:39 AM   
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The 25000 number does not include refugees, only identifiable bodies, its questionable if it even includes the bulk of the citizenry of dresden.



“The fire storm transformed thousands of individual blazes into a sea of flames, ripping off the roofs, tossing trees, cars and lorries into the air, and simultaneously sucking the oxygen out of the air-raid shelters.

”Most of those who remained below ground, their bodies first brilliantly tinted bright orange and blue, and then, as the heat grew intense, either totally incinerated or melted into a thick liquid sometimes three or four feet deep.” –R.H.S. Crossman, “Apocalypse at Dresden,” Esquire, November 1963

“Seventy percent of the Dresden dead either suffocated or died from poison gases that turned their bodies green and red. The intense heat melted some bodies into the pavement like bubblegum, or shrunk them into three-foot long charred carcasses. Clean-up crews wore rubber boots to wade through the ‘human soup’ found in nearby caves. In other cases, the superheated air propelled victims skyward only to come down in tiny pieces as far as fifteen miles outside Dresden.

After the first wave of British bombers came a second wave three hours later, designed to spread the fire to the huge open area of the royal park and to the great square in front of the railway station – places where thousands of survivors had fled – and to hit every one of the 19 hospitals in the city. Then, as the survivors (many of them crippled) were gathering their meager strength the next morning a third wave of bombers and fighters hit the city. This time the USAF which strafed the royal park and the roads out of town, deliberately machine-gunning the defenseless crowds of refugees.

How many were killed? The figure of 225,000 was widely circulated; Crossman estimates upwards of 150,000. The Dresden massacre was one of the most horrific war crimes in history, and one carried out by the “democratic” imperialists. For his services rendered to the British Empire, “Bomber” Harris later received a Knights Grand Cross from the Queen (as well as a Legion of Merit from the U.S.)


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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 8:22:07 AM   
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If they are identifiable bodies, list their names, with provenance.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 8:30:51 AM   
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your list is fucked up however.

Britain should be on top because Harrise the "Butcher" under churchill who worked for/under the british terrorists openly admitted the british policy to taget innocent people, Britain should be on the top of our list and you dont even have them on the list, little biased ya think?:




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Damn, you and the whore prove youreslves to be non stop top shelf asstards.

"Oh yes I lived in the shower of directives. From the day I took over till the last day of the war....but the directive when I took over was the one that I wasn't to specifically aim at anything unless ordered to do so except to blast the German cities as a whole" ~Bomber Harris

Directives come from the people you work for, CHURCHILL and the BRITISH GUBMINT whose policy was to violate the all the international law to commit genocide in step with the zionist agenda.



Sir Arthur 'Bomber' Harris talks about Britains Dresden Holocaust


Now the rest of the world would call an interview with his admission evidence you would call it a cartoon, the only comedians here are you and the whore



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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 8:35:29 AM   
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British US and European Zionists started BOTH world wars. I posted the data long ago, all you can do is deny all data and spew the same bullshit about 6 million holocausted jews and you have not yet posted any damn thing but your propagandist rhetoric and denial of the facts.

Mayors, police chiefs, fire marshals, victims, and witnesses on the site suffering the event are not worthless drivel. Especially unlike your 6 million which has long since proven to be egg on your faces bullshit, the material evidence, well known refugee movements, churchill and eisenhowers illegal targetting of civilians all support their statements.



In the midst of winter with refugees pouring westwards and troops to be rested, roofs are at a premium. The intentions of the attack are to hit the enemy where he will feel it most, behind an already partially collapsed front, to prevent the use of the city in the way of further advance, and incidentally to show the Russians when they arrive what Bomber Command can do."

RAF January 1945



“There were no warning sirens. We were completely surprised and rushed back down to the cellars of the hospital. But these quickly became hopelessly overcrowded with people who could no longer find shelter in their own burning buildings. The crush was unbearable, we were so tight you could not fall over.”“Apart from the fire risk, it was becoming increasingly impossible to breath in the cellar because the air was being pulled out by the increasing strength of the blaze.”

“[Outside] We could not stand up, we were on all fours, crawling. the wind was full of sparks and carrying bits of blazing furniture, debris and burning bits of bodies.”

“There were charred bodies everywhere.”

“The experience of the bombing was far worse than being on the Russian front, where I was a front-line machine gunner.”

Rudolph Eichner



Your whole laughable offensive is simply to deny deny deny.

They wasted the refugees fleeing from the russians to dresden who were no longer able to fight and indiscrimnately targeted civilians and hospitals and personel carries with red crosses on them.






Thank you for providing a perfect example of what I'm talking about when I refer to your alleged citations as bullshit that doesn't have any value as proof of anything except your guillibility and willingness to believe whatever you wish to believe without any hint of evidence to support your beliefs.
You provide no provenance for any of the content of quotation above, and no indication of when Eichman made the claim you're citing, and don't even have any evidence that he said what you're attributing to him.
It proves nothing, just like the rest of the "citations" you've spent this thread shitting out.
If you expect anybody else to provide a citation for anything, you have to do better than that, because that sort of nonsense neither proves anything you have to claim, nor rebuffs any statements that have been made by anybody else. It just makes you look like an idiot, a liar, or both.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 8:45:49 AM   
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The idea that such a sizable force was deployed while no documentation of such a force of that size or disposition being deployed to the area exists in any military records should give you pause.

What's more - It doesn't matter what recon reports say - Bombing a School which intel states is occupied by Terrorist units is not an excuse when later you find out that it was actually filled with school children....

As such there is no documentation that any military unit was damaged or suffered losses as subject to the Wielun bombing, so even if there was intel to say that troops where there... when the bombs landed the place was devoid of any military presence.




So its ok for the asswipe brits to target civilians and indiscriminately bomb and burn german cities throughout the whole war but if a german didnt the bullseye of an intended target due to fog they are terrorists.

geebus fuck you are god damned hypocrite.
you have the quotes from the historians, not my problem if they dont fit your propaganda, and to pretend nothing exists when you have not bothered to look and actually see if it exists is a lie. If you think the historians were wrong then become a revisionist and change understood history, but to come out here armed with lies and bullshit does not look very good for you, not that you give a damn.



So you can't identify the specific Brigade, Division, or Battery that was apparently Stationed at Wielun...
Nor can you identify their strength, disposition, deployment, or even the armament of this force...

The only citation you can call upon speaks very vaguely of the matter as a whole... which is actually very weird.
Especially when you consider that it specifically points out the Infantry Regiment which manages to shoot down 4 of the Stukas... the Polish 36 Academic Legion Infantry Regiment... which was on the opposite side of the Warta River stationed closer to Radomsko. Kind of odd that they know the Regiment of troops that managed to down a couple of Stukas, yet seemingly cant identify the Brigade or Division which they just got done bombing.

but of course, rather then address this, you're going to mount personal attacks and call into question my accuracy because that is all you can do.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 9:01:21 AM   
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My list is just fine dumbfuk1 as is my source information: backed up by further source information/study as recent as 2010 from the fair Nazi city itself.
R1 I will stand by my figures, handsome of slipper, and surrounded by my flock of 3 cats...


But hark unto us all facts and evidence...which is different from pointing your arse and spraying effluent.

How many atrocities/war crimes were committed by:
The Allies
The Axis
The Russians

heh that reminds me of the Belgrano...that bitch was fuking nuts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_General_Belgrano

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 2:40:12 PM   
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your list is BS if you do not include britain at the top of it, as I said even butch harris admitted it was british policy to target and destroy women children and babies in their homes without any discretion what so ever.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 2:42:58 PM   
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Butch Harris was a catcher for the 1938 Sox. He would have been just shooting off his mouth.

Prove that Butch Harris was alive during WW2.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 2:45:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: InfoMan


quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

quote:

ORIGINAL: InfoMan

The idea that such a sizable force was deployed while no documentation of such a force of that size or disposition being deployed to the area exists in any military records should give you pause.

What's more - It doesn't matter what recon reports say - Bombing a School which intel states is occupied by Terrorist units is not an excuse when later you find out that it was actually filled with school children....

As such there is no documentation that any military unit was damaged or suffered losses as subject to the Wielun bombing, so even if there was intel to say that troops where there... when the bombs landed the place was devoid of any military presence.




So its ok for the asswipe brits to target civilians and indiscriminately bomb and burn german cities throughout the whole war but if a german didnt the bullseye of an intended target due to fog they are terrorists.

geebus fuck you are god damned hypocrite.
you have the quotes from the historians, not my problem if they dont fit your propaganda, and to pretend nothing exists when you have not bothered to look and actually see if it exists is a lie. If you think the historians were wrong then become a revisionist and change understood history, but to come out here armed with lies and bullshit does not look very good for you, not that you give a damn.



So you can't identify the specific Brigade, Division, or Battery that was apparently Stationed at Wielun...
Nor can you identify their strength, disposition, deployment, or even the armament of this force...

The only citation you can call upon speaks very vaguely of the matter as a whole... which is actually very weird.
Especially when you consider that it specifically points out the Infantry Regiment which manages to shoot down 4 of the Stukas... the Polish 36 Academic Legion Infantry Regiment... which was on the opposite side of the Warta River stationed closer to Radomsko. Kind of odd that they know the Regiment of troops that managed to down a couple of Stukas, yet seemingly cant identify the Brigade or Division which they just got done bombing.

but of course, rather then address this, you're going to mount personal attacks and call into question my accuracy because that is all you can do.




I quoted and referenced the historian, just as you do, you kids want to raise the level of evidence up a few notches fine, you first, I want hard evidence that anyone was gassed, surely someone came forward and confessed to be a jew gasser, lets see it and the corresponding corpus delicti

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 2:48:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: InfoMan


quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

quote:

ORIGINAL: InfoMan

The idea that such a sizable force was deployed while no documentation of such a force of that size or disposition being deployed to the area exists in any military records should give you pause.

What's more - It doesn't matter what recon reports say - Bombing a School which intel states is occupied by Terrorist units is not an excuse when later you find out that it was actually filled with school children....

As such there is no documentation that any military unit was damaged or suffered losses as subject to the Wielun bombing, so even if there was intel to say that troops where there... when the bombs landed the place was devoid of any military presence.




So its ok for the asswipe brits to target civilians and indiscriminately bomb and burn german cities throughout the whole war but if a german didnt the bullseye of an intended target due to fog they are terrorists.

geebus fuck you are god damned hypocrite.
you have the quotes from the historians, not my problem if they dont fit your propaganda, and to pretend nothing exists when you have not bothered to look and actually see if it exists is a lie. If you think the historians were wrong then become a revisionist and change understood history, but to come out here armed with lies and bullshit does not look very good for you, not that you give a damn.



So you can't identify the specific Brigade, Division, or Battery that was apparently Stationed at Wielun...
Nor can you identify their strength, disposition, deployment, or even the armament of this force...

The only citation you can call upon speaks very vaguely of the matter as a whole... which is actually very weird.
Especially when you consider that it specifically points out the Infantry Regiment which manages to shoot down 4 of the Stukas... the Polish 36 Academic Legion Infantry Regiment... which was on the opposite side of the Warta River stationed closer to Radomsko. Kind of odd that they know the Regiment of troops that managed to down a couple of Stukas, yet seemingly cant identify the Brigade or Division which they just got done bombing.

but of course, rather then address this, you're going to mount personal attacks and call into question my accuracy because that is all you can do.




I quoted and referenced the historian, just as you do, you kids want to raise the level of evidence up a few notches fine, you first, I want hard evidence that anyone was gassed, surely someone came forward and confessed to be a jew gasser, lets see it and the corresponding corpus delicti

Right after you provide some proof for the half million dead you're claiming for Dresden, it's lack of any value as a military target, and the names of these other German cities that lost 500,000 to bombing at the same time as Dresden.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 2:50:20 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

British US and European Zionists started BOTH world wars. I posted the data long ago, all you can do is deny all data and spew the same bullshit about 6 million holocausted jews and you have not yet posted any damn thing but your propagandist rhetoric and denial of the facts.

Mayors, police chiefs, fire marshals, victims, and witnesses on the site suffering the event are not worthless drivel. Especially unlike your 6 million which has long since proven to be egg on your faces bullshit, the material evidence, well known refugee movements, churchill and eisenhowers illegal targetting of civilians all support their statements.



In the midst of winter with refugees pouring westwards and troops to be rested, roofs are at a premium. The intentions of the attack are to hit the enemy where he will feel it most, behind an already partially collapsed front, to prevent the use of the city in the way of further advance, and incidentally to show the Russians when they arrive what Bomber Command can do."

RAF January 1945



“There were no warning sirens. We were completely surprised and rushed back down to the cellars of the hospital. But these quickly became hopelessly overcrowded with people who could no longer find shelter in their own burning buildings. The crush was unbearable, we were so tight you could not fall over.”“Apart from the fire risk, it was becoming increasingly impossible to breath in the cellar because the air was being pulled out by the increasing strength of the blaze.”

“[Outside] We could not stand up, we were on all fours, crawling. the wind was full of sparks and carrying bits of blazing furniture, debris and burning bits of bodies.”

“There were charred bodies everywhere.”

“The experience of the bombing was far worse than being on the Russian front, where I was a front-line machine gunner.”

Rudolph Eichner



Your whole laughable offensive is simply to deny deny deny.

They wasted the refugees fleeing from the russians to dresden who were no longer able to fight and indiscrimnately targeted civilians and hospitals and personel carries with red crosses on them.






Thank you for providing a perfect example of what I'm talking about when I refer to your alleged citations as bullshit that doesn't have any value as proof of anything except your guillibility and willingness to believe whatever you wish to believe without any hint of evidence to support your beliefs.
You provide no provenance for any of the content of quotation above, and no indication of when Eichman made the claim you're citing, and don't even have any evidence that he said what you're attributing to him.
It proves nothing, just like the rest of the "citations" you've spent this thread shitting out.
If you expect anybody else to provide a citation for anything, you have to do better than that, because that sort of nonsense neither proves anything you have to claim, nor rebuffs any statements that have been made by anybody else. It just makes you look like an idiot, a liar, or both.



Like with the disinfo man, you first surely someone came forward and confessed to be a jew gasser, lets see it, the transcripts, and the corresponding corpus delicti.

You havent posted anything but your always wrong opinion and exect me to raise the dead as your purported standard of proof which we both know would vaporize in denial to the next impossible level if I did raise the dead.

surely someone came forward and confessed to be a jew gasser, lets see it, the transcripts, and the corresponding corpus delicti.


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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 2:51:25 PM   
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that was quick so you have nothing, got it

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 2:56:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

British US and European Zionists started BOTH world wars. I posted the data long ago, all you can do is deny all data and spew the same bullshit about 6 million holocausted jews and you have not yet posted any damn thing but your propagandist rhetoric and denial of the facts.

Mayors, police chiefs, fire marshals, victims, and witnesses on the site suffering the event are not worthless drivel. Especially unlike your 6 million which has long since proven to be egg on your faces bullshit, the material evidence, well known refugee movements, churchill and eisenhowers illegal targetting of civilians all support their statements.



In the midst of winter with refugees pouring westwards and troops to be rested, roofs are at a premium. The intentions of the attack are to hit the enemy where he will feel it most, behind an already partially collapsed front, to prevent the use of the city in the way of further advance, and incidentally to show the Russians when they arrive what Bomber Command can do."

RAF January 1945



“There were no warning sirens. We were completely surprised and rushed back down to the cellars of the hospital. But these quickly became hopelessly overcrowded with people who could no longer find shelter in their own burning buildings. The crush was unbearable, we were so tight you could not fall over.”“Apart from the fire risk, it was becoming increasingly impossible to breath in the cellar because the air was being pulled out by the increasing strength of the blaze.”

“[Outside] We could not stand up, we were on all fours, crawling. the wind was full of sparks and carrying bits of blazing furniture, debris and burning bits of bodies.”

“There were charred bodies everywhere.”

“The experience of the bombing was far worse than being on the Russian front, where I was a front-line machine gunner.”

Rudolph Eichner



Your whole laughable offensive is simply to deny deny deny.

They wasted the refugees fleeing from the russians to dresden who were no longer able to fight and indiscrimnately targeted civilians and hospitals and personel carries with red crosses on them.






Thank you for providing a perfect example of what I'm talking about when I refer to your alleged citations as bullshit that doesn't have any value as proof of anything except your guillibility and willingness to believe whatever you wish to believe without any hint of evidence to support your beliefs.
You provide no provenance for any of the content of quotation above, and no indication of when Eichman made the claim you're citing, and don't even have any evidence that he said what you're attributing to him.
It proves nothing, just like the rest of the "citations" you've spent this thread shitting out.
If you expect anybody else to provide a citation for anything, you have to do better than that, because that sort of nonsense neither proves anything you have to claim, nor rebuffs any statements that have been made by anybody else. It just makes you look like an idiot, a liar, or both.



Like with the disinfo man, you first surely someone came forward and confessed to be a jew gasser, lets see it, the transcripts, and the corresponding corpus delicti.

You havent posted anything but your always wrong opinion and exect me to raise the dead as your purported standard of proof which we both know would vaporize in denial to the next impossible level if I did raise the dead.

surely someone came forward and confessed to be a jew gasser, lets see it, the transcripts, and the corresponding corpus delicti.


I know you like the disinfo, because disinformation is all you've got. You've spent 49 pages proving as much, haven't you?
Half a million dead at Dresden. Prove it.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 3:03:22 PM   
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so you continue to have nothing in support of your claim hitler gassed 6 million jews, and thats the best you got. Fine I can accept you have nothing

for those who just joined us, not so much as anything beyond whores blathering rhetoric


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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 3:18:35 PM   
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You see disinfoman it does not matter how many ways you can spin it, you want to increase the standards of evidence I am all for it. I gave you references, you failed to dispute or contradict the points the historian authors made with counter points and accompanying references, hence you lose. LOL If you want to try again go for it but begging the question isnt an acceptable defense, damn sure not an offense lol, at least not for anyone with more than 2 functioning braincells to rub together LOL




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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 3:41:30 PM   
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Butch Harris was a catcher for the 1938 Sox. He would have been just shooting off his mouth.

Prove that Butch Harris was alive during WW2.



snotty, harris was called "the butcher" harris because if it breathed it was a target, he was just following the orders and policies of his british gubmint, doing the same as wasnt ok for the germans, and went to his grave with no remorse after purposefully and premeditated slaughtered millions of innocent women children and babies because it was sanctioned by the british gubmint so that makes it A-Ok for churchill et al but get the rope for hitler et-al.

The irony is they tortured and hung the germans and gave him medals, care to explain that lil hypocrisy to us







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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 4:21:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: InfoMan


quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: InfoMan

The idea that such a sizable force was deployed while no documentation of such a force of that size or disposition being deployed to the area exists in any military records should give you pause.

What's more - It doesn't matter what recon reports say - Bombing a School which intel states is occupied by Terrorist units is not an excuse when later you find out that it was actually filled with school children....

As such there is no documentation that any military unit was damaged or suffered losses as subject to the Wielun bombing, so even if there was intel to say that troops where there... when the bombs landed the place was devoid of any military presence.




So its ok for the asswipe brits to target civilians and indiscriminately bomb and burn german cities throughout the whole war but if a german didnt the bullseye of an intended target due to fog they are terrorists.

geebus fuck you are god damned hypocrite.
you have the quotes from the historians, not my problem if they dont fit your propaganda, and to pretend nothing exists when you have not bothered to look and actually see if it exists is a lie. If you think the historians were wrong then become a revisionist and change understood history, but to come out here armed with lies and bullshit does not look very good for you, not that you give a damn.



So you can't identify the specific Brigade, Division, or Battery that was apparently Stationed at Wielun...
Nor can you identify their strength, disposition, deployment, or even the armament of this force...

The only citation you can call upon speaks very vaguely of the matter as a whole... which is actually very weird.
Especially when you consider that it specifically points out the Infantry Regiment which manages to shoot down 4 of the Stukas... the Polish 36 Academic Legion Infantry Regiment... which was on the opposite side of the Warta River stationed closer to Radomsko. Kind of odd that they know the Regiment of troops that managed to down a couple of Stukas, yet seemingly cant identify the Brigade or Division which they just got done bombing.

but of course, rather then address this, you're going to mount personal attacks and call into question my accuracy because that is all you can do.




I quoted and referenced the historian, just as you do, you kids want to raise the level of evidence up a few notches fine, you first, I want hard evidence that anyone was gassed, surely someone came forward and confessed to be a jew gasser, lets see it and the corresponding corpus delicti


that is not how this works - you cannot barter for information when the legitimacy of your citations are brought into question. Trying to redirect or deflect critical analysis of your statements doesn't work. You made a Claim with a dubious citation... that citation has been questioned - so either provide clarification, or submit that the citation and statement you've made is not correct.


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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 5:12:15 PM   
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The idea that such a sizable force was deployed while no documentation of such a force of that size or disposition being deployed to the area exists in any military records should give you pause.

What's more - It doesn't matter what recon reports say - Bombing a School which intel states is occupied by Terrorist units is not an excuse when later you find out that it was actually filled with school children....

As such there is no documentation that any military unit was damaged or suffered losses as subject to the Wielun bombing, so even if there was intel to say that troops where there... when the bombs landed the place was devoid of any military presence.




So its ok for the asswipe brits to target civilians and indiscriminately bomb and burn german cities throughout the whole war but if a german didnt the bullseye of an intended target due to fog they are terrorists.

geebus fuck you are god damned hypocrite.
you have the quotes from the historians, not my problem if they dont fit your propaganda, and to pretend nothing exists when you have not bothered to look and actually see if it exists is a lie. If you think the historians were wrong then become a revisionist and change understood history, but to come out here armed with lies and bullshit does not look very good for you, not that you give a damn.



So you can't identify the specific Brigade, Division, or Battery that was apparently Stationed at Wielun...
Nor can you identify their strength, disposition, deployment, or even the armament of this force...

The only citation you can call upon speaks very vaguely of the matter as a whole... which is actually very weird.
Especially when you consider that it specifically points out the Infantry Regiment which manages to shoot down 4 of the Stukas... the Polish 36 Academic Legion Infantry Regiment... which was on the opposite side of the Warta River stationed closer to Radomsko. Kind of odd that they know the Regiment of troops that managed to down a couple of Stukas, yet seemingly cant identify the Brigade or Division which they just got done bombing.

but of course, rather then address this, you're going to mount personal attacks and call into question my accuracy because that is all you can do.




I quoted and referenced the historian, just as you do, you kids want to raise the level of evidence up a few notches fine, you first, I want hard evidence that anyone was gassed, surely someone came forward and confessed to be a jew gasser, lets see it and the corresponding corpus delicti


that is not how this works - you cannot barter for information when the legitimacy of your citations are brought into question. Trying to redirect or deflect critical analysis of your statements doesn't work. You made a Claim with a dubious citation... that citation has been questioned - so either provide clarification, or submit that the citation and statement you've made is not correct.




so then you barter for information and accuse me of doing what you just did? Now thats wack!

You claimed that hitler drew dirst blood by targeting innocent civilians, that Wielun was not a military target, I checked my sources and they said it was in fact a military target and due to heavy fog a few pilots missed their targets.

So while you may have interesting questions they are for you to research if you wish to launch a counter offensive against my sources.

However you are wack if you think that its up to me to prove your point for you. That is not the way it works.

Get off your ass and do some research and when/if you ever have a bonafide counter offensive that actually contradicts rather than doubts hit me up with what you find. Until then the historians who reviewed the matter that I posted stands.

Wielun was a bonafide military target.

and that is how it works.




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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 7:04:21 PM   
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so then you barter for information and accuse me of doing what you just did? Now thats wack!

You claimed that hitler drew dirst blood by targeting innocent civilians, that Wielun was not a military target, I checked my sources and they said it was in fact a military target and due to heavy fog a few pilots missed their targets.

So while you may have interesting questions they are for you to research if you wish to launch a counter offensive against my sources.

However you are wack if you think that its up to me to prove your point for you. That is not the way it works.

Get off your ass and do some research and when/if you ever have a bonafide counter offensive that actually contradicts rather than doubts hit me up with what you find. Until then the historians who reviewed the matter that I posted stands.

Wielun was a bonafide military target.

and that is how it works.



Stop trying to place the burden of proof on others.
It is your Citation - you made the claim - the burden of Proof is on you.

You claim there was a Cavalry Brigade and Infantry Division in the city limits...
What Brigade? What Division?

Your citation does not support that claim nor gives any clarification.
There for, it remains a nebulious unsupported claim.

until you can provide Factual Evidence - such as the Unit Number - the claim is still unsupported...
And citing a historian is no more factual evidence then citing a Toaster Oven i'm sorry to say.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/23/2017 9:20:51 PM   
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smoking some good shit eh.

you made the claim not me.

you claimed histler started the war by targetting civilians in Wielun with no evidence what so ever.

Despite your having no evidence I met my burden when I countered your claim referencing historians that actually reviewed exactly that case.

you now have the burden to counter the historical accounting.

you arent fooling anyone, you have nothing to counter with, and your titanic is crying all the way to the bottom as you shot yourself in the foot again.




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