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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/9/2017 6:16:20 PM   
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Nothing like using percentages instead of real numbers to sound hysterical.

How about this one: Terrorism by Muslims makes up one-third of 1 percent of all murders in the US



Please do not confuse the fool with real numbers, his brain cant handle it.

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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/9/2017 6:18:16 PM   
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Nothing like using percentages instead of real numbers to sound hysterical.

How about this one: Terrorism by Muslims makes up one-third of 1 percent of all murders in the US


Great

Since Muslims are less than 1% of the population, that's "only" one murder committed per every three Muslims or so...

Got any more useful information like that





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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/9/2017 6:21:48 PM   
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Yes, you are innumerate. Not particularly useful information, since you are also a known retard, and everybody knows you havent any factual point. Only felchgobble.

That would work out to 4.167 million murders a year.

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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/9/2017 6:32:38 PM   
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Nothing like using percentages instead of real numbers to sound hysterical.

How about this one: Terrorism by Muslims makes up one-third of 1 percent of all murders in the US


Great

Since Muslims are less than 1% of the population, that's "only" one murder committed per every three Muslims or so...

Got any more useful information like that





Wow. You really ARE an idiot. Like failed elementary school math idiot.

But in brief, ah, no, it doesn't mean anything remotely close to that display of sheer stupidity.

If they're 1%, and they commit less than 1/3 of 1% of the acts, that means the rest of the US commits more than their share.




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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/9/2017 6:49:13 PM   
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Still, those aren't good stats. Cherry picked dates too, no doubt. did it include the nearly 3000 9/11 murders

I highly doubt that someone like you could ever be that honest

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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/9/2017 7:02:46 PM   
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You wouldnt know a good stat if it hit you in the ass, you have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Subtract 100K a year 12.5 - 1.5 = 11 3000/11000000 = 0.003 or .3% So, same as quoted.

But really we dont need to do that, lets do actual 19 muslim terrorists divided by 11 million muslims in America on 2001. Actual.

I will leave the solution as an exercise to the reader, except for you retard, have a non-nutsucker do the math for you.



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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/9/2017 7:20:19 PM   
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You wouldnt know a good stat if it hit you in the ass, you have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Subtract 100K a year 12.5 - 1.5 = 11 3000/11000000 = 0.003 or .3% So, same as quoted.

But really we dont need to do that, lets do actual 19 muslim terrorists divided by 11 million muslims in America on 2001. Actual.

I will leave the solution as an exercise to the reader, except for you retard, have a non-nutsucker do the math for you.




Does that include the muslims who kill each other in their own countries?

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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/9/2017 7:38:44 PM   
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You wouldnt know a good stat if it hit you in the ass, you have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Subtract 100K a year 12.5 - 1.5 = 11 3000/11000000 = 0.003 or .3% So, same as quoted.

But really we dont need to do that, lets do actual 19 muslim terrorists divided by 11 million muslims in America on 2001. Actual.

I will leave the solution as an exercise to the reader, except for you retard, have a non-nutsucker do the math for you.




Does that include the muslims who kill each other in their own countries?


no nobody in the US has any need to concern themselves with whether it is spelt win an n or spelt with a q.

We aint even counting how many xtians kill xtians in the world.

In the US there are currently around 12.5 million muslims, since the day GWB became president and steady on until today we allow about 100K muslims in this country.

Our big year was 2001 so we are backing out the 100K a year and come to 11 million 3k deaths... 19 terrorists. we can make the ratios.

You have a better chance of stabbing yourself in the tonsils with a fork and bleeding to death while eating mashed potatoes.

Since that day we have changed how we background these people, entering our country, many other countries have not.

I am not concerned with how that works in the rest of the world, they have their ways. Cuz if we go that route, we say, why not Trinidad and Tobago, and why not Norway with islamic terrorists? Hell, why not Cuba? Why? How they operate in say, antartica will not give insight into this country. Maybe some of the others, as previously mentioned.



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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/9/2017 7:45:11 PM   
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You wouldnt know a good stat if it hit you in the ass, you have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Subtract 100K a year 12.5 - 1.5 = 11 3000/11000000 = 0.003 or .3% So, same as quoted.

But really we dont need to do that, lets do actual 19 muslim terrorists divided by 11 million muslims in America on 2001. Actual.

I will leave the solution as an exercise to the reader, except for you retard, have a non-nutsucker do the math for you.




Does that include the muslims who kill each other in their own countries?



What about the billions they have slaughtered throughout history in the most heinous (terroristic) ways they could dream up wherever they have spread

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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/9/2017 7:50:39 PM   
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You wouldnt know a good stat if it hit you in the ass, you have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Subtract 100K a year 12.5 - 1.5 = 11 3000/11000000 = 0.003 or .3% So, same as quoted.

But really we dont need to do that, lets do actual 19 muslim terrorists divided by 11 million muslims in America on 2001. Actual.

I will leave the solution as an exercise to the reader, except for you retard, have a non-nutsucker do the math for you.




Does that include the muslims who kill each other in their own countries?



What about the billions they have slaughtered throughout history in the most heinous (terroristic) ways they could dream up wherever they have spread


Well you can't really hold that against them. This is 2017.

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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/9/2017 7:59:46 PM   
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You wouldnt know a good stat if it hit you in the ass, you have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Subtract 100K a year 12.5 - 1.5 = 11 3000/11000000 = 0.003 or .3% So, same as quoted.

But really we dont need to do that, lets do actual 19 muslim terrorists divided by 11 million muslims in America on 2001. Actual.

I will leave the solution as an exercise to the reader, except for you retard, have a non-nutsucker do the math for you.




Does that include the muslims who kill each other in their own countries?



What about the billions they have slaughtered throughout history in the most heinous (terroristic) ways they could dream up wherever they have spread


Well you can't really hold that against them. This is 2017.



They've done enough of it in 2017 I am sure

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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/9/2017 8:09:53 PM   
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Not that it matters but, when compared to Christain wars in history, the Muslims have a very low body count.

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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/10/2017 4:03:41 AM   
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What if, instead of being against Christians or Muslims or Buddhists or Hindus or Whatevers, you were against violence?


I could get behind that idea


Sure... so violence against an unborn child, aka abortion, is out.



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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/10/2017 4:51:35 AM   
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thb, you might find some worth in mike adams' piece here:

http://townhall.com/columnists/mikeadams/2017/01/31/why-johnny-is-only-personally-opposed-to-abortion-n2278672


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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/10/2017 5:00:56 AM   
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You wouldnt know a good stat if it hit you in the ass, you have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Subtract 100K a year 12.5 - 1.5 = 11 3000/11000000 = 0.003 or .3% So, same as quoted.

But really we dont need to do that, lets do actual 19 muslim terrorists divided by 11 million muslims in America on 2001. Actual.

I will leave the solution as an exercise to the reader, except for you retard, have a non-nutsucker do the math for you.




Does that include the muslims who kill each other in their own countries?



What about the billions they have slaughtered throughout history in the most heinous (terroristic) ways they could dream up wherever they have spread

What about the billions of muslims and non muslims that have been slaughtered throughout history in the heinous terroristic ways the could dream up wherever they have spread.

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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/10/2017 6:15:07 AM   
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Not that it matters but, when compared to Christain wars in history, the Muslims have a very low body count.


Washington Post, bought by 1%er Jeff Bezos to help Hillary win the presidency. You lecture and preach out of total ignorance here every day. In India alone, Muslims tortured and enslaved and murdered probably a million times those numbers, and Muslims today are still doing far worse than your 1%er alt left newspaper described. Not only do Muslims kill, but they have always killed in the most heinous fashion imaginable - specifically for the terrorism caused, because it is a deliberate war strategy. Enough terror, and the victims fear what is coming so much that they surrendered or fled rather than fought

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The Greatest Murder Machine in History

When one thinks of mass murder, Hitler comes to mind. If not Hitler, then Tojo, Stalin, or Mao. Credit is given to the 20th-century totalitarians as the worst species of tyranny to have ever arisen. However, the alarming truth is that Islam has killed more than any of these, and may surpass all of them combined in numbers and cruelty.

The enormity of the slaughters of the "religion of peace" are so far beyond comprehension that even honest historians overlook the scale. When one looks beyond our myopic focus, Islam is the greatest killing machine in the history of mankind, bar none.


The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. -- Will Durant, as quoted on Daniel Pipes site.

Conservative estimates place the number at 80 million dead Indians.

According to some calculations, the Indian (subcontinent) population decreased by 80 million between 1000 (conquest of Afghanistan) and 1525 (end of Delhi Sultanate). -- Koenrad Elst as quoted on Daniel Pipes site

80 Million?! The conquistadors' crimes pale into insignificance at that number. No wonder Hitler admired Islam as a fighting religion. He stood in awe of Islam, whose butchery even he did not surpass.

Over 110 Million Blacks were killed by Islam.

... a minumum of 28 Million African were enslaved in the Muslim Middle East. Since, at least, 80 percent of those captured by Muslim slave traders were calculated to have died before reaching the slave market, it is believed that the death toll from 1400 years of Arab and Muslim slave raids into Africa could have been as high as 112 Millions. When added to the number of those sold in the slave markets, the total number of African victims of the trans-Saharan and East African slave trade could be significantly higher than 140 Million people. -- John Allembillah Azumah, author of The Legacy of Arab-Islam in Africa: A Quest for Inter-religious Dialogue

Add just those two numbers alone together, and Islam has surpassed the victims of 20th-century totalitarianism. However, it does not end there. Add the millions who died at the hand of Muslims in the Sudan in our lifetime.

Much of Islamic slavery was sexual in nature, with a preference for women. Those men who were captured were castrated. The mulatto children of the women were often killed, which explains why Islam was not demographically shifted towards the black race, unlike slaves in the West, who bore children to breed a mestizo class. Add in those dead children; and we arrive at well over 200 million.

Remember that in the 7th century, North Africa was almost totally Christian. What happened to them?

By the year 750, a hundred years after the conquest of Jerusalem, at least 50 percent of the world's Christians found themselves under Muslim hegemony… Today there is no indigenous Christianity in the region [of Northwest Africa], no communities of Christians whose history can be traced to antiquity.-- "Christianity Face to Face with Islam," CERC

What happened to those Christian millions? Some converted. The rest? Lost to history.

We know that over 1 million Europeans were enslaved by Barbary Pirates. How many died is anybody's guess.

...for the 250 years between 1530 and 1780, the figure could easily have been as high as 1,250,000 - BBC

In the Middle Ages…

…many slaves were passed through Armenia and were castrated there to fill the Muslim demand for eunuchs. -- Slavery in Early Medieval Europe.

The same practice ran through Islamic Spain. North Europeans captured from raids up to Iceland, or purchased, were butchered in the castratoriums of Iberia. Many died from the operations that ran for centuries.

The number of dead from the Muslim conquest of the Balkans and Southern Italy is unknown, but again the numbers add up, surely into the millions over the centuries. Don't forget the 1.5 million Armenian Christians killed by the Turks during WWI. We do know that over five centuries, vast numbers of Christian boys were kidnapped to become Islamic Janissary mercenaries for the Turks. Add those in, too.

Muslims prized blonde women for their harems; and so enslaved Slavic women were purchased in the bazaars of the Crimean Caliphate. In Muslim Spain, an annual tribute of 100 Visigothic [blonde] women was required from Spain's Cantabrian coast.

For decades, 100 virgins per year were required by the Muslim rulers of Spain from the conquered population. The tribute was only stopped when the Spaniards began fighting back -- Jihad: Islam's 1,300 Year War Against Western Civilisation

Add in the death toll from the Reconquista and the numbers climb higher.

Research has shown that the Dark Ages were not caused by the Goths, who eventually assimilated and Christianized:

…the real destroyers of classical civilization were the Muslims. It was the Arab Invasions... which broke the unity of the Mediterranean world and turned the Middle Sea -- previously one of the world’s most important trading highways -- into a battleground. It was only after the appearance of Islam... that the cities of the West, which depended upon the Mediterranean trade for their survival, began to die. -- Islam Caused the Dark Ages

Add in those unknown millions who died as a consequence.

How many know the horrors of the conquest of Malaysia? The Buddhists of Thailand and Malaysia were slaughtered en masse.

When attacked and massacred by the Muslims, the Buddhists initially did not make any attempt to escape from their murderers. They accepted death with an air of fatalism and destiny. And hence they are not around today to tell their story. – History of Jihad.org

We may never know the numbers of dead.

After Muslims came to power in the early 15th century, animist hill peoples eventually disappeared due to their enslavement and ‘incorporation’ into the Muslim population of Malaya, Sumatra, Borneo, and Java via raids, tribute and purchase, especially of children. Java was the largest exporter of slaves around 1500. -- Islam Monitor

In the same manner, Islam arrived in the Philippines. Only the appearance of the Spanish stopped a total collapse, and confined Islam to the southern islands.

The coming of the Spanish saved the Philippines from Islam, except for the Southern tip where the population had been converted to Islam.-- History of Jihad.org

Again, the number of dead is unknown; but add them to the total.

The animist Filipinos were eager to ally with the Spanish against Islam. In fact, much of Southeast Asia welcomed the Spanish and Portuguese as preferable to Islam.

...from the 17th century successive Thai kings allied themselves with the seafaring Western powers – the Portuguese and the Dutch and succeeded in staving off the threat of Islam from the Muslim Malays and their Arab overlords.-- History of Jihad.org

A few galleons and muskets were not enough to conquer Asia. Islam had made the Europeans initially appear as liberators; and to a certain extent they were. Who were the real imperialists?

Even today...

...Malaysian Jihadis are plotting to transform multi-ethnic Malaysia into an Islamic Caliphate, and fomenting trouble in Southern Thailand.-- History of Jihad.org

Add this all up. The African victims. The Indian victims. The European victims. Add in the Armenian genocide. Then add in the lesser known, but no doubt quite large number of victims of Eastern Asia. Add in the jihad committed by Muslims against China, which was invaded in 651 AD. Add in the Crimean Khanate predations on the Slavs, especially their women.

Though the numbers are not clear, what is obvious is that Islam is the greatest murder machine in history bar none, possibly exceeding 250 million dead. Possibly one-third to one-half or more of all those killed by war or slavery in history can be traced to Islam; and this is just a cursory examination.

Now consider the over 125 Million women today who have been genitally mutilated for Islamic honor's sake. In spite of what apologists tell you, the practice is almost totally confined to Islamic areas.

New information from Iraqi Kurdistan raises the possibility that the problem is more prevalent in the Middle East than previously believed and that FGM is far more tied to religion than many Western academics and activists admit. – “Is Female Genital Mutilation an Islamic Problem?” ME Quarterly

Once thought concentrated in Africa, FGM has now been discovered to be common wherever Islam is found.

There are indications that FGM might be a phenomenon of epidemic proportions in the Arab Middle East. Hosken, for instance, notes that traditionally all women in the Persian Gulf region were mutilated. Arab governments refuse to address the problem. -- "Is Female Genital Mutilation an Islamic Problem?" ME Quarterly

Remember that this has gone on for 1400 years; and was imposed on a population that had been formerly Christian or pagan.

FGM is practiced on large scale in Islamic Indonesia; and is increasing.

...far from scaling down, the problem of FGM in Indonesia has escalated sharply. The mass ceremonies in Bandung have grown bigger and more popular every year. -- Guardian

The horrified British author of that Guardian article is still deluded that Islam does not support FGM, when in fact it is now settled that FGM is a core Islamic practice. Islamic women have been brainwashed to support their own abuse.

Abu Sahlieh further cited Muhammad as saying, "Circumcision is a sunna (tradition) for the men and makruma (honorable deed) for the women." -- “Is Female Genital Mutilation an Islamic Problem?” ME Quarterly

What other tyranny does this? Not even the Nazis mutilated their own women!

Unlike the 20th-century totalitarians whose killing fury consumed themselves, reducing their longevity, Islam paces itself. In the end, though slower, Islam has killed and tortured far more than any other creed, religious or secular. Unlike secular tyranny, Islam, by virtue of its polygamy and sexual predations, reproduces itself and increases.

Other tyrannies are furious infections, which burn hot, but are soon overcome. Islam is a slow terminal cancer, which metastasizes, and takes over. It never retreats. Its methods are more insidious, often imperceptible at first, driven by demographics. Like cancer, excision may be the only cure.

So whenever you read about this or that Israeli outrage -- and there may be truth to the complaint -- place the news in context. Look whom the Israelis are fighting against. Islam is like nothing else in history.

Mike Konrad is the pen name of an American who is not Jewish, Latin, or Arab. He runs a website, http://latinarabia.com, where he discusses the subculture of Arabs in Latin America. He wishes his Spanish were better.



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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/10/2017 6:17:40 AM   
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im also wondering what on earth "Christian wars" he's referring to? though in truth it'll probably make my head hurt to read the answer.

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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/10/2017 6:31:24 AM   
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im also wondering what on earth "Christian wars" he's referring to? though in truth it'll probably make my head hurt to read the answer.


Any war in which any Western power was attacked, probably. I bet he considers the Soviets and their client Marxist states "Christian"

jlf is the worst kind of moron, really believes that he is smart enough to invent the facts as he goes along

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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/10/2017 7:22:12 AM   
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im also wondering what on earth "Christian wars" he's referring to? though in truth it'll probably make my head hurt to read the answer.

I'm not a mind reader, but for starters, have you never heard of the Crusades?

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RE: 66% of Dems thinks Christianity is as violent as Islam - 2/10/2017 7:43:48 AM   
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Interesting that Bosco repeatedly cites the Daniel Pipes website as the source for his allegations/propaganda.

According to wiki's page on Daniel Pipes:
"In The Nation, Brooklyn writer Kristine McNeil describes Pipes as an "anti-Arab propagandist" who has built a career out of "distortions... twist[ing] words, quot[ing] people out of context and stretch[ing] the truth to suit his purpose".[18] James Zogby argues that Pipes possesses an "obsessive hatred of all things Muslim", and that "Pipes is to Muslims what David Duke is to African-Americans".[40] Christopher Hitchens, a fellow supporter of the Iraq War and critic of political Islam, also criticized Pipes, arguing that Pipes pursued an intolerant agenda, and was one who "confuses scholarship with propaganda", and "pursues petty vendettas with scant regard for objectivity".[42]
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Pipes sparked a controversy when he was invited to speak at the University of Toronto in March 2005. A letter from professors and graduate students asserted that Pipes had a "long record of xenophobic, racist and sexist speech that goes back to 1990".[44] but university officials said they would not interfere with Pipes's visit.[45]
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Esposito complains that Pipes's equation of "mainstream and extremist(s) Islam under the rubric of militant Islam" while identifying "moderate Islam as secular or cultural" can mislead "uninformed or uncritical readers".[48]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pipes

Clearly anything this ideological warrior and hatemonger is not a reliable or accurate source of information on Islam.

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