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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 11:04:19 AM

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GaryWilcox did you know comrade trumpaloons cited the 5th amendment on 97 occasions over 5 hearings so as not to admit to adultry? I only found that out in the last couple of weeks. Christian he is not. Do you also know he is Referenced in the Book of Revelations as the Beast? that will explain his pussy grabbing claws and cloven hoofs and derangement of its brain

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 12:26:51 PM

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Name all of the Christian states

Today, several nations officially identify themselves as Christian states and/or have state churches.

Costa Rica,[8] Denmark,[9] England,[10] Greece,[11] Iceland,[12] Liechtenstein,[13] Monaco,[14] Tonga,[15] Tuvalu,[16] Vatican City,[17] and Zambia.[18] A Christian state stands in contrast to a secular state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_state

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 12:30:03 PM

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So now that that's settled:

"What's happening" in the US is ~five mass murder events every year and about 10-20 incidents of police shootings of unarmed people per year; so pointing out incidents in other countries that happen once every five or eight years is disingenuous, dishonest, stupid, unthinking, and as it turns out, considered as politically convenient by our latest cock-up of a president.

PS

Adam Lanza and Dylann Roof were not immigrants.

And our society condemns such behavior in the strongest terms, punishes such behavior with death sentences or life n prison while Islam teaches that such behavior is very handsomely rewarded

PS your "mass murder events" include Muslim atrocities.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terror attacks in the last 30 days:

Actually, the truth of the matter is....

.... our society rewards such behavior in the most profitable terms, and rewards such behavior with happy shareholders AND high profit margins while the NRA & conservatism teaches that such behavior is very handsomely rewarded with campaign contributions.

PS your "mass murder events" include everyday American atrocities.

In the name of the 2nd amendment, the NRA, the gun lobby and wall street, gun violence within a recent 10 day period:

Incident Date State # Killed # Injured
02/23/17 Oklahoma 2 0
02/23/17 Ohio 2 0
02/23/17 Ohio 1 0
02/23/17 Texas 1 2
02/23/17 Texas 1 0
02/23/17 Pennsylvania 1 0
02/23/17 Iowa 1 0
02/23/17 Nevada 1 0
02/23/17 New York 1 0
02/23/17 Kansas 4 0
02/23/17 Alabama 1 0
02/23/17 Louisiana 1 0
02/23/17 Maryland 1 1
02/23/17 District of Columbia 1 2
02/23/17 Ohio 1 0
02/23/17 Wisconsin 1 0
02/22/17 New Jersey 1 0
02/22/17 Maryland 1 1
02/22/17 West Virginia 1 0
02/22/17 Ohio 1 1
02/22/17 Ohio 1 1
02/22/17 Texas 1 0
02/22/17 Washington 1 0
02/22/17 Illinois 2 0
02/22/17 Alaska 2 0
02/22/17 Texas 1 0
02/22/17 California 1 0
02/22/17 Texas 1 0
02/22/17 Indiana 1 0
02/22/17 Illinois 1 0
02/22/17 Illinois 1 0
02/22/17 California 1 0
02/22/17 Kansas 1 2
02/22/17 Texas 1 0
02/22/17 Illinois 1 0
02/22/17 Kansas 1 0
02/22/17 Texas 1 0
02/22/17 Florida 1 0
02/22/17 Florida 1 0
02/22/17 Florida 3 0
02/22/17 Florida 1 0
02/22/17 Illinois 1 0
02/22/17 Georgia 1 0
02/22/17 Texas 1 0
02/22/17 Maryland 1 0
02/22/17 California 2 0
02/22/17 Texas 1 0
02/22/17 Illinois 1 0
02/21/17 Colorado 1 0
02/21/17 New York 1 0
02/21/17 Washington 1 0
02/21/17 Oregon 1 0
02/21/17 New Jersey 1 0
02/21/17 New York 1 0
02/21/17 North Carolina 1 0
02/21/17 Ohio 1 0
02/21/17 West Virginia 1 0
02/21/17 Florida 1 1
02/21/17 Illinois 1 0
02/21/17 Washington 1 0
02/21/17 Alabama 1 0
02/21/17 Delaware 2 0
02/21/17 Maryland 1 0
02/21/17 Alabama 1 0
02/21/17 South Carolina 1 0
02/21/17 Missouri 1 0
02/21/17 Mississippi 4 0
02/21/17 Utah 1 0
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02/21/17 Louisiana 1 0
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02/21/17 Illinois 2 0
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02/21/17 Texas 1 0
02/21/17 Texas 1 0
02/21/17 Nevada 1 0
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02/21/17 Pennsylvania 1 0
02/21/17 Utah 1 0
02/21/17 Indiana 1 0
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02/20/17 Mississippi 1 0
02/20/17 Arizona 2 0
02/20/17 Arizona 1 0
02/20/17 Texas 1 1
02/20/17 Missouri 1 0
02/20/17 Tennessee 1 0
02/20/17 Florida 1 0
02/20/17 Florida 1 0
02/20/17 Florida 1 0
02/20/17 Georgia 2 0
02/20/17 North Carolina 1 0
02/20/17 Tennessee 1 1
02/20/17 North Carolina 1 0
02/20/17 Missouri 1 0
02/20/17 Texas 2 0
02/20/17 Florida 1 0
02/20/17 Indiana 1 0
02/20/17 California 2 2
02/20/17 Illinois 1 0
02/20/17 Illinois 1 0
02/20/17 California 1 0
02/20/17 Mississippi 1 0
02/20/17 Alabama 1 0
02/20/17 Michigan 1 0
02/20/17 Louisiana 1 0
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02/20/17 Oregon 1 0
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02/19/17 Texas 1 0
02/19/17 South Carolina 1 1
02/19/17 Texas 1 0
02/19/17 Texas 1 0
02/19/17 Texas 2 0
02/19/17 Pennsylvania 1 0
02/19/17 Ohio 1 0
02/19/17 Tennessee 1 0
02/19/17 Pennsylvania 1 1
02/19/17 Pennsylvania 1 0
02/19/17 Florida 1 0
02/19/17 Tennessee 2 0
02/19/17 New Jersey 1 0
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02/19/17 Idaho 4 0
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02/19/17 Missouri 1 0
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02/19/17 South Carolina 1 0
02/19/17 Ohio 1 0
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02/19/17 California 2 1
02/19/17 Tennessee 2 0
02/19/17 New York 1 0
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02/18/17 California 1 0
02/18/17 Virginia 1 0
02/18/17 California 1 0
02/18/17 Tennessee 1 0
02/18/17 California 1 2
02/18/17 Pennsylvania 1 0
02/18/17 North Carolina 1 0
02/18/17 North Carolina 1 0
02/18/17 New Mexico 1 0
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02/18/17 Missouri 1 0
02/18/17 Florida 1 2
02/18/17 Florida 1 0
02/18/17 Maryland 1 0
02/18/17 Maryland 1 0
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02/18/17 Indiana 1 3
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02/18/17 North Carolina 1 0
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02/18/17 Maine 1 0
02/18/17 Michigan 1 0
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02/18/17 Massachusetts 2 0
02/18/17 Arkansas 1 0
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02/18/17 California 1 0
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02/18/17 Wisconsin 1 0
02/18/17 Colorado 1 0
02/17/17 Utah 1 2
02/17/17 California 1 0
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02/17/17 Ohio 1 0
02/17/17 Texas 1 0
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02/15/17 Illinois 1 0
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02/15/17 Georgia 1 0
02/15/17 Georgia 2 0
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02/15/17 Illinois 1 0
02/15/17 North Carolina 1 1
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02/15/17 Illinois 3 2
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02/14/17 Nevada 1 0
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02/14/17 Pennsylvania 1 0
02/14/17 Oklahoma 1 0
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02/14/17 Texas 2 0
02/14/17 Ohio 1 0
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02/14/17 California 1 0
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02/14/17 Illinois 1 0
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02/14/17 Ohio 1 0
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02/13/17 Tennessee 1 0
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Gun deaths in the past ten days in the US.

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/number-of-gun-deaths

So really boss-ho-x

u and ur ilk don't really give a flying fuck who dies, its just politically expedient to blame immigrants the same way ur uncle adolf did to gain his power.

just as u pointed out how many Muslim deaths there are by other Muslims , u CONveniently leave out the fact that Americans are dying by other Americans .....only ur political party is profiting from it.

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What would the internet be like if we couldn't say trump is a moron?

The Republican party complains government doesnt work for people, and then makes darn sure it cannot.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 12:43:53 PM

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Name all of the Christian states

Doesn't the pledge of allegience speak directly to that question?
How about the money in your pocket? The paper and the coins both say "in god we trust"
If it said in allah we trust or one nation under allah you would claim that was prima facia evidence of it being an islamic state.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid,

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 12:45:14 PM

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How about this

Go take your pussy hat and live in Iran or Afghanistan for a while dressed like you normally dress here

Then come feed us those same lines of ignorance and stupidity in two years

How about this: Lucy stays just where she is, and you work a little less hard to make America the Fundamentalist Christian equivalent of Iran or Afghanistan?

You are insane. You are posting about an alternate reality that does not exist and that has never existed.

I am not even Christian, idiot.

for once I agree..... boss-ho-x ......ur just an idiot.....

and one who recently outed himself to having intimate oral relations with elephants.

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What would the internet be like if we couldn't say trump is a moron?

The Republican party complains government doesnt work for people, and then makes darn sure it cannot.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 12:46:27 PM

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Is that why he spends all of his time online? He's dislocated his jaw, and can't speak anymore?

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 1:25:38 PM

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Is that why he spends all of his time online? He's dislocated his jaw, and can't speak anymore?

it would indeed explain the lack of oxygen to his already feeble brain..
......which would totally explain the number & type of unintelligent posts he and his sock rm makes.....

just say'n...

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What would the internet be like if we couldn't say trump is a moron?

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 1:34:02 PM

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I'm a bit surprised that you keep calling me simpleminded, idiot, etc. when you can't grasp this basic concept that the GOP aligns itself with people who want to change laws effecting the populace based on their Christian beliefs.

ah, here we go again maybe...

could you please elucidate all those laws the "Christian fundamentalists" are wanting to change "based on their beliefs."

as a very helpful part of that answer, could you also enumerate exactly what it is they believe?

as a small helpful hint, as the Christian faith is not an essential part of being "pro-life", you can forget abortion.

and you know whatd be really good, is if you could do this in their words, not yours.

something like "hi, im a Christian fundamentalist and I believe in X. as a result of my belief in X, I want to change Y law."

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 1:38:37 PM

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I'm a bit surprised that you keep calling me simpleminded, idiot, etc. when you can't grasp this basic concept that the GOP aligns itself with people who want to change laws effecting the populace based on their Christian beliefs.

ah, here we go again maybe...

could you please elucidate all those laws the "Christian fundamentalists" are wanting to change "based on their beliefs."

as a very helpful part of that answer, could you also enumerate exactly what it is they believe?

and as a small helpful hint, as the Christian faith is not an essential part of being "pro-life", you can forget abortion.

I am finding myself ignoring his posts more and more, he is just an idiot. Whose sock do you think he is

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 1:44:48 PM

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he reminds me of joether. but that said, he could be someone else, or he could be brand new to the forums, its inconsequential to me.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 2:03:12 PM

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I'm a bit surprised that you keep calling me simpleminded, idiot, etc. when you can't grasp this basic concept that the GOP aligns itself with people who want to change laws effecting the populace based on their Christian beliefs.

ah, here we go again maybe...

could you please elucidate all those laws the "Christian fundamentalists" are wanting to change "based on their beliefs."

as a very helpful part of that answer, could you also enumerate exactly what it is they believe?

and as a small helpful hint, as the Christian faith is not an essential part of being "pro-life", you can forget abortion.

Enumerate for us the xtians who are "anti-life" and preach their freedoms for the purpose of hedonism.

God in schools, god in the whitehouse, israel regardless because god, America was founded as an xtian nation, all that sort of god shit, so long as its their god.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 2:34:56 PM

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ah, here we go again maybe...

could you please elucidate all those laws the "Christian fundamentalists" are wanting to change "based on their beliefs."

as a very helpful part of that answer, could you also enumerate exactly what it is they believe?

and as a small helpful hint, as the Christian faith is not an essential part of being "pro-life", you can forget abortion.

I did, elsewhere. Its weird that you need this pointed out to you, because it has been resisted for the last thirty years in America, and is evident in some of the cabinet postings Trump has made. Seriously, this is something grown-ups talk about all the time-- I am surprised that you aren't at least vaguely aware of these issues. (Unless you're just playing possum and intend to poo-poo all of this with Orwellian double-speak. I wait in eager anticipation.)

The big one is abortion. You are so cute to even suggest that this isn't something that Fundamental Christianity and it's leaders haven't been pushing for years. America has had abortion as a settled issue ever since Roe v. Wade, but Falwell, Graham, and Buchanan spent decades and millions trying to have it overturned with a sympathetic Supreme Court since the day it went live. Many states have introduced their own specific restrictions on abortions in an attempt to make it more and more difficult to have one without government consent. Pence in particular wants to get rid of Roe v. Wade and make abortion illegal again. Which won't stop it from happening... just stop it from happening safe and under legal protections.

Yes, bounty, abortion is a Christian thing. Don't pretend it isn't. That's being dishonest and it makes you look stupid.

The next big one is religion in schools, starting with Intelligent Design. That's basically the biblical creation myth introduced as a 'theory of fact', and teachers are sometimes forced to teach it alongside Evolution. Which means Christianity has already forced its way into high schools all over the land. It is a badly-guarded secret that Trump's Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos is a fan of creationism being taught in public schools.

Next would be anything to do with gay or trans-gendered people. It was only two years ago that Kim Davis of Rowan County, Kentucky refused to issue marriage certificates to gay couples (or allow anyone else in her office to do it) because of her Christian beliefs. Instead of practicing the teachings of Christ and letting God sort out the holy and the unholy, she clung to her Leviticus like a sullen child, and eventually lost. Trump has already removed Trans protections and is going back on everything he promised to those poor, dumb Log Cabin Republicans who believed him. Oh, and his Secretary of Education has funded 'gay cure' programs that use electric shock to try and reprogram gay men and women (and children) into heterosexual normals.

All of these things share a common factor: Someone, somewhere, has decided "I want you to live the way I want to live, under my rules", instead of live and let live ideas of 'teach what is not common to all at home' or 'that's someone else's business, not mine'. Why not let gay people get married? Why tell transgender people to use a different bathroom? Why take away someone else's access to abortion? Because you don't like it? That's very, very snowflake-y.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 3:46:23 PM

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as for the first couple of paragraphs---smug pompous ass.

that said...

one doesn't have to be Christian to be pro-life. there are Christians who are pro-abortion. there are atheists who are pro-life. there are republicans and democrats on both sides of the issue.

the issue with abortion is one of murder. sorry, you cannot say that laws against murder are only inherently Christian. im not doing any "pretending" in that regard. if you ignore what I just told you above, you are the one doing so.

a recalcitrant clerk in Kentucky is not tantamount to a burgeoning Christian theocracy. nor for that matter was she engaged in trying to change the law. she simply believed as she did, and disagreed with what the law was requiring her to do. the debate with her is one of her religious freedom/expression vis-à-vis the requirements of her job, not one of her being a Christian fundamentalist bent on changing the law.

regardless of our respective interpretations with her, she's one person. there are Christians who are pro gay marriage. there are people who are not believers who are anti-gay marriage. there are Christians who don't care one way or the other.

neither is a broad reference to betsy devos' belief concerning intelligent design an admission of a Christian fundamentalist, which by the way, is not "religion" in the schools and it's absence (where it is indeed missing) rests on an absurd interpretation of the 1st amendment, and which, prior to modern times, was something historically taught in schools. further the old testament is not Christian, its a historical/literary collection of documents that other faiths and even non-believers respect and/or find worth in studying.

so I don't call that a Christian fundamentalist thing either. I call it good science. very briefly---evolution is a theory, not a fact. it requires as much, if not more "faith" to believe it as does belief in a creator. when one examines evidence, one doesnt throw out possible causes of it simply because it doesn't suit your worldview. if atheists are being "forced" to teach intelligent design, consider that creationists are being "forced" to teach evolution or in some instances, allowed only to teach that. famous scientists throughout history have believed in god and creation. well educated and intelligent scientists continue to believe so. some are Christian, some are not. there are Christians who believe in evolution.

im still left wondering then, what exactly do Christian fundamentalists believe? (as opposed to other people not christian, or not "christian fundamentalists" who believe likewise) and what actual laws are they wanting to change based on their beliefs? you have more than rough allusions to gay marriage and intelligent design?

and it seems a part of this conversation needs to include an explanation from you as to why/how the secular humanist/atheist worldview hegemony in the public square is acceptable, but another, one who finds some influence from a theistic faith for example is not.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 4:02:12 PM

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as for all your asswipe. retarded felchgobbling ultracrepidarian shitbreather.

You have failed other than in pudpounding, you have made an extraordinary claim, who are the xtians that are pro-abortion in sufficient number to not be anecdotal. Now, if you can come up with half of those also as nutsuckers, you would be able to implement that as a valid premise. However, you are clearly factlessly gobbling a bowl of dicks here with your maladroit shiteating.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 4:28:27 PM

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Comforting for some westerners to know that when they die they will see Jesus wearing an ExxonMobil tee-shirt and a back-flipped Halliburton baseball cap.

Muslims use oil and pump oil and profit from oil too, idiot. But keep talking, tell us some more about how much you hate Americans and Christians etc

Theft of such profit which Brit and American oil companies carried on for decades, idiot. Hence the ousting of democratically elected Mosaddegh in Iran by the CIA and SIS (MI6) in 1953 in favor of the immensely more bribe-worthy dictator Shah. How did that end up?

So now that the oil companies say "Fuck your damned democracy! We're getting ours!," silly bitches like you sit there and say 'they don't have a democracy.' Stepping in your own poop all the time isn't a pretty sight, I must say, however gleefully stomp on it.

And since you're going there, our reality TV star president is too stupid to do anything other than do harm to our own citizens and some portion of the rest of the world as if he hated them. Results are what matter.

It is also instructive that you find yourself in contradiction to the US constitution in kicking out christianity and every other religion from governmental concerns in our original document.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/24/2017 4:44:22 PM

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the issue with abortion is one of murder. sorry, you cannot say that laws against murder are only inherently Christian. im not doing any "pretending" in that regard. if you ignore what I just told you above, you are the one doing so.

It is murder if one agrees that human life actually begins at fertilization of the ovum. AFAIK, there is no scientific or legal consensus on that definition, but there is a consensus among some who are religious. A personhood bill has been introduced in Congress to make the desired definition legal.

Correction, Roe v. Wade did provide a legal definition of viability.

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so I don't call that a Christian fundamentalist thing either. I call it good science. very briefly---evolution is a theory, not a fact. it requires as much, if not more "faith" to believe it as does belief in a creator. when one examines evidence, one doesnt throw out possible causes of it simply because it doesn't suit your worldview.

A scientific theory is not just a guess taken on "faith." It is a model constructed upon verified observations and facts. Again AFAIK, the proponents of ID have not presented any facts that can be tested. Their "theory" is based upon the notion of complexity: specifically the flagellum of a single cell organism is too complex, the human blood clotting system is too complex; and the mammalian eye is too complex to have evolved. However, evolutionary precursors have been demonstrated for each. See Kitsmiller v. Dover Schools

Furthermore, a scientific theory is always subject to change with new evidence or failure of old observations; "faith" is never a determiner.

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im still left wondering then, what exactly do Christian fundamentalists believe?

I have seen it written often that Christian fundamentalists believe in the literal and inerrant words of the Bible, as dicta from God, old and new testaments. Would you disagree with that definition?

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/25/2017 6:07:56 PM

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Name all of the Christian states

Arkansas, Article 19, Section 1:
No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court.

Maryland, Article 37:
That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution.

Mississippi, Article 14, Section 265:
No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this state.

North Carolina, Article 6, Section 8
The following persons shall be disqualified for office: Any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God.

South Carolina, Article 17, Section 4:
No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution.

Tennessee, Article 9, Section 2:
No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state.

Texas, Article 1, Section 4:
No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.

https://thehumanist.com/news/national/unelectable-atheists-u-s-states-that-prohibit-godless-americans-from-holding-public-office

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/25/2017 10:08:49 PM

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Science is called theory up until it conforms to the tenants of the bible,.... same with archeology, right up until it finds a city or coins that coincides with passages in the bible THEN its "good science"

Tell Me bounty, tell us where the bible says anything about the Tyrannosaurs Rex? Or any animals in the MILLIONS of YEARS before genesis was written?

Even the anti-abortion movement owes what knowledge it has to modern science & medicine, but then bites the hand of science that it uses to present its argument by calling it all junk.

and there dude is the reason...       "why/how the secular humanist/atheist worldview hegemony in the public square is acceptable, but another, one who finds some influence from a theistic faith for example is not."

it takes damn near a mental beatdown for one of "theistic faith " to admit their wrong, and/or admit their current information comes from the very "theory" it dismisses as such.

How the church has handled the earth being round, and the earth NOT being the center of the universe, are the easiest among the many reasons that faith based thought holds back the human mind.

It is MY opinion that....
The faith based person is only interested in confirming their faith to confirm & please their deity and will go to great lengths to cover up any discovery that doesn't.   The secular humanist/atheist is looking for the complete answer even if it doesn't confirm the secular humanist/atheist view.

Science IS fact. Science searches for MORE facts, Science searches for THE facts.

And really? How credible can u be when u cant even be honest about the drivers of the "pro-life/anti abortion" movement being catholic-or born-again Christians to the point of terror bombings & killing doctors IN church??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

Cmon man, at least be honest about who ur associated with.....

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/25/2017 10:18:59 PM

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Science is fact... until they find out they didn't know what they didn't know.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/25/2017 10:36:03 PM

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Such as?

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