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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Like Milo at CPAC? Hey that gender bends the word leftist beyond reality.

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The Founding Fathers were not atheists. To forbid as innocent and commendable an act as praying in school for fear of offending a small number of people goes beyond separation of church and state, into the realm of suppressing religion.

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Again, this highlights the difference between Liberal and Leftist. Most of the left-wing people in here are part of the Lunatic, fact-free, reality-denying anti-free speech fascists who promote a virulent ideology which does not allow dissent. They are not - repeat NOT - liberals.

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Yes. We're going to destroy freedom and America.

Because we hate liberty and values.

Who is we?

We is the alt left progressive conservative liberal republican socialists.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness



Again, this highlights the difference between Liberal and Leftist. Most of the left-wing people in here are part of the Lunatic, fact-free, reality-denying anti-free speech fascists who promote a virulent ideology which does not allow dissent. They are not - repeat NOT - liberals.

You do realize that the term 'fascist' refers to a right wing ultra conservative nationalist movement?

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In this particular case, since liberals are left of the political moderate, what would be the most applicable term would be Leninist or Stalinist, at a stretch communist.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: Awareness



Again, this highlights the difference between Liberal and Leftist. Most of the left-wing people in here are part of the Lunatic, fact-free, reality-denying anti-free speech fascists who promote a virulent ideology which does not allow dissent. They are not - repeat NOT - liberals.

You do realize that the term 'fascist' refers to a right wing ultra conservative nationalist movement?

You do realise the term "fascist" actually refers to an authoritarian regime in which the government controls the lives of all its citizens, including the regulation of speech, right? And that claiming it is strictly right-wing is a misunderstanding of the term in both it's original and historical sense, right?

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In this particular case, since liberals are left of the political moderate, what would be the most applicable term would be Leninist or Stalinist, at a stretch communist.

No. Fascism is used by all sides of the political spectrum to characterise autocratic political opponents. Since the Leftists are most devoted to policing and censoring free speech, this description is appropriate. As usual, you simply have no idea what you're talking about.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: Awareness



Again, this highlights the difference between Liberal and Leftist. Most of the left-wing people in here are part of the Lunatic, fact-free, reality-denying anti-free speech fascists who promote a virulent ideology which does not allow dissent. They are not - repeat NOT - liberals.

You do realize that the term 'fascist' refers to a right wing ultra conservative nationalist movement?

You do realise the term "fascist" actually refers to an authoritarian regime in which the government controls the lives of all its citizens, including the regulation of speech, right? And that claiming it is strictly right-wing is a misunderstanding of the term in both it's original and historical sense, right?

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In this particular case, since liberals are left of the political moderate, what would be the most applicable term would be Leninist or Stalinist, at a stretch communist.

No. Fascism is used by all sides of the political spectrum to characterise autocratic political opponents. Since the Leftists are most devoted to policing and censoring free speech, this description is appropriate. As usual, you simply have no idea what you're talking about.

No, it does not.

Fascism is a political theory which is part in parcel with a nationalism movement. The best examples are Nazi Germany, Spain after the Spanish civil war, Mussolini's Italy and Tojo's Japan.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: Awareness



Again, this highlights the difference between Liberal and Leftist. Most of the left-wing people in here are part of the Lunatic, fact-free, reality-denying anti-free speech fascists who promote a virulent ideology which does not allow dissent. They are not - repeat NOT - liberals.

You do realize that the term 'fascist' refers to a right wing ultra conservative nationalist movement?

You do realise the term "fascist" actually refers to an authoritarian regime in which the government controls the lives of all its citizens, including the regulation of speech, right? And that claiming it is strictly right-wing is a misunderstanding of the term in both it's original and historical sense, right?

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In this particular case, since liberals are left of the political moderate, what would be the most applicable term would be Leninist or Stalinist, at a stretch communist.

No. Fascism is used by all sides of the political spectrum to characterise autocratic political opponents. Since the Leftists are most devoted to policing and censoring free speech, this description is appropriate. As usual, you simply have no idea what you're talking about.

No, it does not.

Fascism is a political theory which is part in parcel with a nationalism movement. The best examples are Nazi Germany, Spain after the Spanish civil war, Mussolini's Italy and Tojo's Japan.

No Jeff, you're simply wrong.

Fascism is founded in a rejection of rationality, the burgeois class, individuality and democracy in general. The most significant component of any fascist group is the rejection of individuality and the embrace of collectivism. It is explicitly anti-Capitalistic and anti-Christian and thus has more in common with the Socialist left than it does the Democratic Right. To say otherwise is to merely market your ignorance.

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fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/
noun
noun: fascism; noun: Fascism; plural noun: Fascisms

an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms: authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy; More
Nazism, rightism;
nationalism, xenophobia, racism, anti-Semitism;
jingoism, isolationism;
neofascism, neo-Nazism
"a film depicting the rise of fascism in the 1930s"
(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

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Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before it spread to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum

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Fascism

A class of political ideologies (and historical political regimes) that takes its name from the movement led by Benito Mussolini that took power in Italy in 1922. Mussolini's ideas and practices directly and indirectly influenced political movements in Germany (especially the Nazi Party), Spain (Franco's Falange Party), France, Argentina, and many other European and non-European countries right up to the present day.

The different "fascist" movements and regimes have varied considerably in their specific goals and practices, but they are usually said to be characterized by several common features:

Militant nationalism, proclaiming the racial and cultural superiority of the dominant ethnic group and asserting that group's inherent right to a special dominant position over other peoples in both the domestic and the international order

The adulation of a single charismatic national leader said to possess near superhuman abilities and to be the truest representation of the ideals of the national culture, whose will should therefore literally be law

Emphasis on the absolute necessity of complete national unity, which is said to require a very powerful and disciplined state organization (especially an extensive secret police and censorship apparatus), unlimited by constitutional restrictions or legal requirements and under the absolute domination of the leader and his political movement or party

Militant anti-Communism coupled with the belief in an extreme and imminent threat to national security from powerful and determined Communist forces both inside and outside the country

Contempt for democratic socialism, democratic capitalism, liberalism, and all forms of individualism as weak, degenerate, divisive and ineffective ideologies leading only to mediocrity or national suicide

Glorification of physical strength, fanatical personal loyalty to the leader, and general combat-readiness as the ultimate personal virtues

A sophisticated apparatus for systematically propagandizing the population into accepting these values and ideas through skilled manipulation of the mass media, which are totally monopolized by the regime once the movement comes to power

A propensity toward pursuing a militaristic and aggressive foreign policy

Strict regulation and control of the economy by the regime through some form of corporatist economic planning in which the legal forms of private ownership of industry are nominally preserved but in which both workers and capitalists are obliged to submit their plans and objectives to the most detailed state regulation and extensive wage and price controls, which are designed to insure the priority of the political leadership's objectives over the private economic interests of the citizenry. Therefore under fascism most of the more important markets are allowed to operate only in a non-competitive, cartelized, and governmentally "rigged" fashion.

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Why do I get the feeling that Awareness got his political science education at the bottom of a cracker jack box?

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Definition of fascism

1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
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: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>

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It has always been legal in America to pray in school. Attempts you see to 'legalize' it are specific to asserting the legality of Christian religious custom in school.

If you disagree, ask yourself whether this rule will support the truest test: allow members of the Church of Satan to pray out loud in every school the law covers.

If a law granting access to religion doesn't pass the 'Church of Satan test', it isn't fit for America.

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Like Milo at CPAC? Hey that gender bends the word leftist beyond reality.

Milo's not remotely left-wing.
and earlier.............
The lunatic Leftists of today simply engage in censorship by labeling opposing views as "hate speech" and attempting to use a misappropriated moral high ground to justify their censorship.

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Why do I get the feeling that Awareness got his political science education at the bottom of a cracker jack box?

Because you are a moron. You think you know everything but you are "that guy" - the one who lectures on and on about things which you know little to nothing about. Generally when you read a post you hear a whistling sound, which is sound of the point going way over your head

ETA, I noticed you failed to link to your suspect sources, which you do that a lot. You lie, pull your "facts" out of your ignorant ass, and really believe that it's the same as real facts.

Just as Awareness posted, from Merriam Webster:

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Definition of fascism

1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
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: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>

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Right at the top of the fucking page moron

fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/
noun
noun: fascism; noun: Fascism; plural noun: Fascisms

an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms: authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy; More
Nazism, rightism;
nationalism, xenophobia, racism, anti-Semitism;
jingoism, isolationism;
neofascism, neo-Nazism
"a film depicting the rise of fascism in the 1930s"
(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

Origin

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Definition of fascism

1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

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: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
the meaning you are trying to push as the ONLY meaning is a secondary, therefore not a PRIMARY

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The f-word has been destroyed through overuse, its original sense and power diluted by a million op-eds branding unpleasant politicians ‘fascists’ and by radical marchers hollering ‘fascist scum’ at anyone who irritates them: President Donald Trump, UKIP leader Nigel Farage, the cops. On the right, too, the accusation of fascism has become a Tourette’s-style cry. It’s the left who are the real fascists, they say. Ugly alt-right barbs like ‘feminazi’ and ‘eco-fascist’ confirm that right-wingers are now as likely to scream ‘fascist’ as they are to have it screamed at them.

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fascism
[fash-iz-uh m]

Examples
Word Origin

See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com
noun
1.
(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
2.
(sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.
3.
(initial capital letter) a political movement that employs the principles and methods of fascism, especially the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922–43.
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Fascism

A class of political ideologies (and historical political regimes) that takes its name from the movement led by Benito Mussolini that took power in Italy in 1922. Mussolini's ideas and practices directly and indirectly influenced political movements in Germany (especially the Nazi Party), Spain (Franco's Falange Party), France, Argentina, and many other European and non-European countries right up to the present day.

The different "fascist" movements and regimes have varied considerably in their specific goals and practices, but they are usually said to be characterized by several common features:

Militant nationalism, proclaiming the racial and cultural superiority of the dominant ethnic group and asserting that group's inherent right to a special dominant position over other peoples in both the domestic and the international order

The adulation of a single charismatic national leader said to possess near superhuman abilities and to be the truest representation of the ideals of the national culture, whose will should therefore literally be law

Emphasis on the absolute necessity of complete national unity, which is said to require a very powerful and disciplined state organization (especially an extensive secret police and censorship apparatus), unlimited by constitutional restrictions or legal requirements and under the absolute domination of the leader and his political movement or party

Militant anti-Communism coupled with the belief in an extreme and imminent threat to national security from powerful and determined Communist forces both inside and outside the country

Contempt for democratic socialism, democratic capitalism, liberalism, and all forms of individualism as weak, degenerate, divisive and ineffective ideologies leading only to mediocrity or national suicide

Glorification of physical strength, fanatical personal loyalty to the leader, and general combat-readiness as the ultimate personal virtues

A sophisticated apparatus for systematically propagandizing the population into accepting these values and ideas through skilled manipulation of the mass media, which are totally monopolized by the regime once the movement comes to power

A propensity toward pursuing a militaristic and aggressive foreign policy

Strict regulation and control of the economy by the regime through some form of corporatist economic planning in which the legal forms of private ownership of industry are nominally preserved but in which both workers and capitalists are obliged to submit their plans and objectives to the most detailed state regulation and extensive wage and price controls, which are designed to insure the priority of the political leadership's objectives over the private economic interests of the citizenry. Therefore under fascism most of the more important markets are allowed to operate only in a non-competitive, cartelized, and governmentally "rigged" fashion.
From Auburn University Political Science department

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961e

Why do I get the feeling that Awareness got his political science education at the bottom of a cracker jack box?

Because if I am wrong, then so is every political science department in every college around the world.

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Why do I get the feeling that Awareness got his political science education at the bottom of a cracker jack box?

Because if I am wrong, then so is every political science department in every college around the world.

These morons have had this point explained to them repeatedly. They have been made aware in crystal clear terms that Fascism is a phenomenon that belongs exclusively to the far Right side of politics, that it always has been an exclusively right wing phenomenon and that it always will be an exclusively right wing phenomenon.

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"As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer. The word derives from fasces, the Roman symbol of collectivism and power: a tied bundle of rods with a protruding ax. In its day (the 1920s and 1930s), fascism was seen as the happy medium between boom-and-bust-prone liberal capitalism, with its alleged class conflict, wasteful competition, and profit-oriented egoism, and revolutionary Marxism, with its violent and socially divisive persecution of the bourgeoisie. Fascism substituted the particularity of nationalism and racialism—“blood and soil”—for the internationalism of both classical liberalism and Marxism."

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"Where socialism sought totalitarian control of a society’s economic processes through direct state operation of the means of production, fascism sought that control indirectly, through domination of nominally private owners."

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"Where socialism nationalized property explicitly, fascism did so implicitly, by requiring owners to use their property in the “national interest”—that is, as the autocratic authority conceived it."

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"Where socialism abolished all market relations outright, fascism left the appearance of market relations while planning all economic activities. Where socialism abolished money and prices, fascism controlled the monetary system and set all prices and wages politically."

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"Fascism embodied corporatism, in which political representation was based on trade and industry rather than on geography. In this, fascism revealed its roots in syndicalism, a form of socialism originating on the left. The government cartelized firms of the same industry, with representatives of labor and management serving on myriad local, regional, and national boards—subject always to the final authority of the dictator’s economic plan. Corporatism was intended to avert unsettling divisions within the nation, such as lockouts and union strikes. The price of such forced “harmony” was the loss of the ability to bargain and move about freely."