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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 6:23:36 AM

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its a sickness from which people need to be cured vs its an acceptable phenomena that everyone needs to accept.

Well I don't view fetishes as sickness or illnesses. I mean, we are all in BDSM. We all have fetishes.

But their Fetish is putting them in danger of maybe men who might want to bully them, as it is uncomfortable for straight men as well, I guess to have girlie men around.

So that's why, I am fully behind third bathroom for LGBT.

its been awhile greta since ive been in the diagnostic and statistical manual that the apa uses for mental illnesses to see if what I am about to say is still the case, but it used to be that the kinks involved in bdsm were listed there as psychological abnormalities.

they may still be there, or at least partially still be there, but I suspect, as people aren't being treated for such things, at best they are given a passing mention.

the same is not the case however with gender dysphoria.

and its not a fetish in the way that word is properly understood, its a psychological condition that prior to our lifetime, was typically treated as an abnormality from which people needed to be healed---not given special rights/privileges or "transitioned."

so really, one of the questions at hand, that rarely gets talked about, again, is how we view this condition. as a sickness, or just a difference.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 6:57:57 AM

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its been awhile greta since ive been in the diagnostic and statistical manual that the apa uses for mental illnesses to see if what I am about to say is still the case, but it used to be that the kinks involved in bdsm were listed there as psychological abnormalities.

they may still be there, or at least partially still be there, but I suspect, as people aren't being treated for such things, at best they are given a passing mention.

the same is not the case however with gender dysphoria.

and its not a fetish in the way that word is properly understood, its a psychological condition that prior to our lifetime, was typically treated as an abnormality from which people needed to be healed---not given special rights/privileges or "transitioned."

so really, one of the questions at hand, that rarely gets talked about, again, is how we view this condition. as a sickness, or just a difference.

On a kink site your position is that your kink is kewel but other kinks are not???
My dear comrade bounty your ability to be a two faced punkassmothrphoquer has reached another benchmark.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 7:01:37 AM

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This is why they only want to talk about the bathrooms. It is to hide the fact that they want women to get used to being available for men at anytime and anyplace. After all, how dare women tell men "No."

The same could be said about those who only want to talk about bathrooms, rather than the discrimination in employment that's also in this bill.

Of course, that's another topic.

So, are we saying here that *trans* women, are promoting rape culture? Do you really think that these PEOPLE who have the appendage that is a complete affront to who they feel they happen to be, are running around assaulting people with it?

If that is correct, why aren't people concerned about trans* men? Why isn't the same outcry happening when *little boys* use a restroom or a changing facility? OMG! Vagina!!! Shoot! If we're going to talk about people being more aggressive because of the hormones encountered during transition, I'd choose testosterone over estrogen any day of the week.

For what it's worth, any cis-gendered female can get out of any "communal" anything. The magic word is "period". EVERY female locker room I have ever been in has had a 'privacy' stall.

No, I have not said that trans women are promoting rape culture. I have said repeatedly that you cannot tell the difference between a trans woman - a woman with a dick, and a predator claiming the same. Tattoos seem pretty popular, so I suppose we could require registration and a tattoo. Maybe on the arm? Naw, I don't think I like that idea much either.

Anyone showing off a vagina in a changing area is guilty of indecent exposure. Although I think a nice stay in a mental facility instead of jail might be more useful. There has to be something wrong with you if you are going to laydown in a public area and stick a speculum in yourself in front of a bunch of guys. On the serious side, it is because there is really nothing sexual to see with the vulva. You have hair or skin and a turkey waddle thing. Turkey waddles are not sexualized in our culture.

I have actually answered all of these questions before.

I can assure you, however that EVERY locker room, shower, changing room, et cetera does NOT have a privacy stall in the state of Washington.

Now, using a single stall or family changing room is an accommodation. But it is not the accommodation wanted. Ts want access to the women's sex-segregated facilities. To hell how anyone else will be effected.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 7:05:39 AM

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What is your daughter doing at a YMCA why isnt she at a YWCA?

Maybe she's a fag hag?

That is fucking sick. You do NOT sexualize children! And do not ever accuse my nine and a half year old autistic daughter of associating only with adult men. What is wrong with you?

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 7:07:31 AM

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No, I have not said that trans women are promoting rape culture. I have said repeatedly that you cannot tell the difference between a trans woman - a woman with a dick, and a predator claiming the same.

How do you tell the difference between a catholic priest and a sexual predator?

Tattoos seem pretty popular, so I suppose we could require registration and a tattoo. Maybe on the arm? Naw, I don't think I like that idea much either.

If you don't like that idea why did you bring it up?

Anyone showing off a vagina in a changing area is guilty of indecent exposure.

What planet do you live on where that is true?

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 7:13:02 AM

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What is your daughter doing at a YMCA why isnt she at a YWCA?

Maybe she's a fag hag?

That is fucking sick. You do NOT sexualize children! And do not ever accuse my nine and a half year old autistic daughter of associating only with adult men. What is wrong with you?

They are today's "liberals"

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 7:13:57 AM

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Obama's directive, and therefore the Democrat party push effectively removes all protections from women by proclaiming that anyone shall be permitted access to all private women's areas at any time. I have posted the directive in the forums. It says point blank that the change can be rapid and has to be respected on being verbalized

Yes, you posted the directive under the Department of Education. I saw it. I promise. While i don't agree with your language about "removing all protections from women," I highly doubt I'm going to convince you of that.

Frankly, turning stuff like this over to the individual states, (any area that can be construed as discrimination) most of the time, the individual state will screw it up. If you don't believe that, think for a minute just how many states had laws on the books about people of color having to use separate restrooms. Do you happen to remember the mess back in the nineties when Colorado voters passed (then) Amendment 2? (That was the law that literally said it was legal to discriminate against homosexuals in employment, housing, etc.) If you don't, that was the neat piece of legislation that got Colorado nicknamed "the state of hate" and cost the state millions in every aspect that you can imagine. It wasn't just the legal costs of proving this piece of crap unconstitutional. It was the lost revenue in tourism, the companies that wouldn't build in the state, so jobs weren't being created, the entertainers that refused to play gigs in the state while the law was in effect, and everything else. The price tag on it was huge.

Have you been reading the whole thread? A few pages back, the comparison about a similar bill that had been proposed in GA? Unlike Gov McCrory (NC), Gov Deal (GA) didn't have this one day special session that got this into law. He heard "sign it and we pull out of your state," and frankly, I think he understood that GA can't afford to lose the revenue.

Personally, I think the way the state of NC did this was pretty shady. The people on this thread that seem to be in favor of HB2 for North Carolina have brought examples from other states where things have gone wrong. What's not being presented is that the cities and counties that had passed the opposite ordinances (i.e., use the restroom as the gender you identify) weren't having the assaults that the people who are fear mongering are trying to say were happening. It's the very same tactic that people tried using years ago when certain organizations LIED and tried to convince the public that gay people were more likely to sexually assault non adults than their heterosexual counterparts. (We know this isn't true because the numbers have been dis-proven time and time again.) Sounded good though and it made people afraid, so I guess it worked.

Would you consider trying something for me? Just for a bit.

For the next month or so, every time you have to use a public facility to relieve yourself, take those few seconds to think about the aspect that you match whatever figure is on that door. Let it sink in that you probably don't have to think about it otherwise than just this experiment.

If you work or go to school full time, how often during that eight hour day do you have to urinate?

Do you go to the grocery store or other types of shopping where you might have to pee while you're out?

Have you been in any major airports, sporting events, or other stadiums? Restaurant or coffee shop? Do you go to the gym, the movies, or to the park?

The average human has to urinate 6-8 times a day. Think about it every time you are out somewhere for a month. All I'm asking you to do is recognize how often a public restroom occurs in your life.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 7:15:58 AM

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I only read the last 5 pages - fairest words of them all (5 pages) ladypact. They are stigmatising them as monsters, perverts, paedophiles, rapists, deviants etc. This does take a certain amount of brain poverty and it shames me. Remind me what are the UK laws? Being forgetful I have actually forgotten but i don’t think ours are good.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 7:32:18 AM

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Stripping protections from all girls and women by law and by force of the federal government in order to mandate "protections' for perhaps one percent of the population, is literally insane in my opinion.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 7:42:10 AM

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so you are by your own words all for funding planned parenthood, I applaud you for that, felchgobbler gobbles. now you just gotta quit pimping pedophiles, criminals, rapists and deadbeats.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 7:55:11 AM

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That is fucking sick. You do NOT sexualize children!

That is exactly what you have been doing on this thread. You have brought your child into this discussions constantly. Now you disingenuously jump up on your faux soap box and shout out your faux outrage that anyone would mock you for it. If you do not want your child in this discussion don't try to insert her to make points.

And do not ever accuse my nine and a half year old autistic daughter of associating only with adult men. What is wrong with you?

A more relevant question would be, what is wrong with you.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 7:58:44 AM

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Stripping protections from all girls and women by law and by force of the federal government in order to mandate "protections' for perhaps one percent of the population, is literally insane in my opinion.

Are you against protecting 1% of the population by force of the federal government insane for the rich 1% or just the transgender 1%?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 8:08:26 AM

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How do you tell the difference between a catholic priest and a sexual predator?

I can't, so if I had a child, I would never leave the child alone with a catholic priest! Or an Imam!
I don't know why catholic priests are so prone to pedophilia. But Imams can legally practice pedophilia in their safe Muslim countries as long as the child is above 8 yrs old. And he marries her.

There are alot of dangers you can allow the child to learn from experience.

But sexual abuse is not one of them.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 8:14:48 AM

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I only read the last 5 pages - fairest words of them all (5 pages) ladypact. They are stigmatising them as monsters, perverts, paedophiles, rapists, deviants etc. This does take a certain amount of brain poverty and it shames me. Remind me what are the UK laws? Being forgetful I have actually forgotten but i don’t think ours are good.

Come on WD. You are smarter than that.

We aren't accusing Transgenders to be pedo/rapist/molesters whatever.

We are saying we cannot tell the difference between a crossdresser, a transgender and a transvestite by just looking at them. I mean Good Lord! Bruce Jenner is a transgender and THERE IS NO WAY WHEN HE ENTERS A FEMALE BATHROOM that no female will not notice he is a male! He looks EXACTLY like a cross dresser.

See! Transgender but if I didn't know because his a popular transgender, I'd definitely think his a cross dresser! He looks like a cross dresser! Yet his transgender! And THAT is AFTER surgically fixing his face to look more feminine!

So point is, we can't tell the difference between a transgender and a man dressed as a transgender who is a pedo/rapists/molester.

I don't think women and children should be put in danger like that.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 8:15:12 AM

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How do you tell the difference between a catholic priest and a sexual predator?

I can't, so if I had a child, I would never leave the child alone with a catholic priest! Or an Imam!
I don't know why catholic priests are so prone to pedophilia. But Imams can legally practice pedophilia in their safe Muslim countries as long as the child is above 8 yrs old. And he marries her.

There are alot of dangers you can allow the child to learn from experience.

But sexual abuse is not one of them.

This is part of their anti-Christianity bias showing.

Public school teachers are much more likely to sexually molest/assault your child than a priest.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 8:18:16 AM

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Public school teachers are much more likely to sexually molest/assault your child than a priest.

The Pope himself admits there a problem.
So seriously, this priest thing. Is way too many happening to be untrue.
Of course schools as well, as if one was a pedo, the first thing they would find a career in, is a school teacher or a nursery teacher. So it is haven for pedos. And there is no way to spot them!

But it's all about teaching your child to be alert and be taught and educated about how they should not allow adult male or female to be touching them, and if it happens, to report it immediately as it's not okay.

And that's why, Americans have home schooling! When the safest place for your kid is under their own parents.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 8:21:11 AM

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How do you tell the difference between a catholic priest and a sexual predator?

I can't, so if I had a child, I would never leave the child alone with a catholic priest! Or an Imam!

How an you tell a catholic priest or an imam from any other man if they are not in "uniform"?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

I don't know why catholic priests are so prone to pedophilia.

What percentage of catholic priest are pedophiles?

But Imams can legally practice pedophilia in their safe Muslim countries as long as the child is above 8 yrs old. And he marries her.

I would sugest you do not vacation there. That being said you constantly talk of visiting the country of malaysia where that is, according to you, legal

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 8:27:34 AM

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How do you tell the difference between a catholic priest and a sexual predator?

I can't, so if I had a child, I would never leave the child alone with a catholic priest! Or an Imam!
I don't know why catholic priests are so prone to pedophilia. But Imams can legally practice pedophilia in their safe Muslim countries as long as the child is above 8 yrs old. And he marries her.

There are alot of dangers you can allow the child to learn from experience.

But sexual abuse is not one of them.

This is part of their anti-Christianity bias showing.

Public school teachers are much more likely to sexually molest/assault your child than a priest.

The stats link supporting that notion you cited does not work.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 8:28:36 AM

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How an you tell a catholic priest or an imam from any other man if they are not in "uniform"?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

I have to admit I don't know if catholic Priests bothers disguising in normal clothes. But I can tell you Imam are proudly Imams regardless the occasion and are never normally attired. They want people to know they are Imams.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 3/6/2017 8:43:57 AM

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How an you tell a catholic priest or an imam from any other man if they are not in "uniform"?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

I have to admit I don't know if catholic Priests bothers disguising in normal clothes.

Please tell us how you can form an opinion from a position of complete ignorance?

But I can tell you Imam are proudly Imams regardless the occasion and are never normally attired. They want people to know they are Imams.

I can tell you that I know of several dozen here in southern california who wear business suites like anyone else. Some even wear 'bill blass' and dockers.
So once again we all can see that you are full oif shit as usual.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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