LadyPact -> RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back (2/25/2017 7:42:24 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Greta75 That's because Trans has not been legally allowed to enter female bathrooms for a long time enough to measure this. How many years do you want? quote:
I am not accusing Trans of assaulting women. I am accusing men who pretend to be Trans of assaulting women. How can you know if the male is a REAL transgender or not? To be quite frank, I've seen more morons putting up videos on youtube with this horse hockey than I've ever seen of anything else. Greta, if we were ever shopping in the same establishment, would you want to look into the next stall, (the one I'm using) to see if I'm "woman" enough to be taking a leak? Do you want to check my bits to see? Wait. That's exactly what you are thinking other people are doing. quote:
Since all it takes is an effeminate male who loves dressing up as a woman? How do we know if they are trans or not? They are not guarding woman's safety at all. As I said, all you care about is transgender safety and not woman's safety at all. Well, yeah, I kind of am, because I happen to consider transwomen to be women. By the way, I'm still waiting for you to post even one link about an attack because somebody 'faked' being trans to assault someone. I can do quid pro quo. Want me to link some of the brutal attacks that trans* women have been subjected to for peeing at a McDonald's? quote:
I even know there are males who are married TO women, have children, but goes out dressed as a woman with his wife all the time. But kept all his manly parts intact. Just cross dressed. Yep. Me, too. You're bringing into the discussion the matters of cross dressing as related to trans*, and even further if 'bottom surgery' is the qualification/pass the bar determination if an individual is trans* or not. I'm going to ask you an honest question here. Do you really know how hard it is, even if a person wants it, just how hard it is for a person to even get to the point of obtaining bottom surgery? The years you have to be treated for gender dis-morphia? The legal aspects? The hormones? The expense? Oh, hey, and guess what? While you're doing this over the course of years, YOU ARE A F^CKING TARGET. quote:
And can you even imagine, I've been to public swimming pool or beach toilets in the west. And women are naked everywhere in it. How would woman feel comfortable with these effeminate males going in there dressed as women? Please clarify. Your definition of "west," please. I've lived all over this country. Swimming pools, natural hot springs, big kink cons, and private parties. I felt just fine. quote:
Don't be ridiculous. In a mall or a school. Walking up one floor is not gonna kill you. In some places like Malaysia. You find some malls where male toilets are one floor and female toilets are another floor. And people still are able to get to their toilets fine. Yeah, I'm kind of spoiled. I mean, my heart goes out to people in Malaysia that they have never had the privilege of not having to climb a staircase in need of accessing a toilet. I don't piss in rice paddies, either. quote:
As I said, if they do not increase the toilet stalls but go according to my plan to divide existing toilets accordingly. There is no need to increase costs. You're not getting this, are you? Most public facilities, regardless of the number of stalls, are divided to men and women. You can find 'independent' restrooms, aka "family" singular closets, depending on where you might be. Putting those in does cost money. When the state of CA put them in for all of their rest stops, the bill was significant, and we're talking about a state that, at one time, couldn't even afford to keep it's restrooms along the highway open. quote:
Transgenders are always very tall. And most of the time, it's very obvious they are not natural females. I doubt I have been in a female toilet where I have not identified someone as trans. Their features are always obvious. It's very seldom that a regular trans on the street actually doesn't look like a man dress in drag. Over here we have mostly Thai transgender who we have sympathy for, because, majority of them were forced to be Trans from babies by their parents to work in the flesh trade and not by choice. Which is why, I am suggesting LGBT toilets solution instead of giving them no toilets. The shortest transgendered male that I know stands exactly 5'2". Same height as me. Kind of blows that theory out of the water. quote:
End of the day. My disagreement with you is. You only care about transgender comfort. I'm ok with you disagreeing with me. I'm more concerned about your lack of education that leads to your discomfort. Please tell me what your fear is based on? Is it because any trans* person has ever hurt you? Is it because any verifiable trans* person has sexually assaulted anyone at all? Or, is it about suspicion and fear? quote:
But you don't care about woman's comfort and safety. There will be many women out there like myself who is not comfortable with a cross dressing male inside a female toilet. I will feel unsafe. Why? It's an honest question.. quote:
Especially with camera phones available these days. Any man can cross dress into a female and bring a phone in and film for his own pleasure. Assault on women doesn't have to be physical. Less than six months ago, I and a few other members of this site were on a thread about a consent violator who was doing this exact thing in the great state of North Carolina. Cis-gendered man. Not the first. Not the last. Show me one news story about a transman doing the same thing.
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