LadyPact -> RE: Dommes (3/16/2017 8:15:10 AM)
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ORIGINAL: respectmen LadyPact Well I'm sorry to say but it's making them missing out in opportunities that they would be surprised to find out due to their closed mindedness and prejudice. Men are entitled to have their set standards on how they deal with things too. No one, men or women, should get to make the rules on when you can or cannot start a discussion about kink on a BDSM site. We'll just plain have to agree to disagree. I'd love to know what you think the opportunity is that is being missed when somebody who is thousands of miles away (as the case of the OP) wants to write to me about his kink. He's not a friend. Not a play partner. He's random dude who just happens to be on the same site as I am. There's no entitlement of my time for me to read his email or write a reply. quote:
Half of the time women don't ask at all and I'm the one who approaches the conversation. Other times when women approach it, sometimes it has shown up in the very first message. Most of the time though when women are the ones that bring it up, it's usually pretty early in the conversation, the 2nd,3rd, or 4th email. I still consider that small talk, rather than asking you intimate questions about your sex life. It's a normal, social question that you'd get asked just about anywhere. quote:
As you are making the argument that you can't say this or that to someone you've never met yet. I think it's perfectly validated for a male to do so to a woman about BDSM on a fucking BDSM website. If it was a non BDSM site, you would have a point. Before you jump to assumptions, I don't mean hey baby wanna fuck, or can you be my mistress. I mean just respectful conversation with no pressure and no asking to do anything in real life but just ask questions about where she stands with it all to get a full understanding. Why would anybody who isn't remotely considered to be in somebody's dating pool need to know where the other person stands? If you were to already know by someone's forum posts that you're not interested in interacting with them for whatever reason, what benefit does it give to you to answer their email? quote:
If you don't want men to approach the conversation about BDSM, I suggest you get off the bloody site and visit POF. That way, you will be the one who approaches the conversation about BDSM. Problem solved. I've got a better idea. How about I stay on the BDSM site, only engage in private correspondence with those that I choose to do so, and delete the rest? Holy crap! Guess what? That works, too! quote:
Not at all when women are always fucking paranoid about the men they may be or have been sleeping with are users, creeps, rapists, anything along the lines of a terrible monster. However they still end up sleeping with men some time down the track. It doesn't make them clear from their prejudices. After the stalker experience, I can guarantee you that there are certain qualities in some people that I absolutely avoid in potential partners. Same thing holds true about pattern behaviors for just about anybody who had a bad experience with someone. If they got involved with somebody who was a liar, cheater, used them for money, or felt they used them for sex, whatever, they are going to avoid a similar situation in the future. Seems logical, doesn't it? quote:
They can but there's things to ask beyond that. For a short brief example. Someone mentions they are into bondage. Yeah? what type? in what setting? Do you like prolonged scenes or only a couple hours. Do you like to gag your victims too? I'm into chastity. Yeah...so how are you going to play this? What devices do you have in mind? Again, you're assuming that that person A has any potential interaction with person B with the above activities. Just like the thread that was referenced earlier. This is exactly why the 99% of first contact/'cold' emails fail. Location is a huge primary factor in this thing. Age is another factor. How many people twenty years your senior who live 4000 miles away are you interested in discussing kink with? quote:
Which I think it's silly as the ones who are really into her styles and could really click with the said woman may decide to miss out in giving her a go as they can't see a possible connection to begin with as that is totally hidden and unseen. How many women of your acquaintance from great distances do you feel that you click with? Somebody who isn't a friend or that you don't have some type of established rapport? Honestly, somebody you were cold messaging that you hadn't even so much as had a friendly exchange on the forums with? Particularly people who state in their profile that your situation wouldn't be a match for them at all. Does that really make sense to you? quote:
Kinda like people thinking it's odd for someone to message another in a website about holden commodores and get offended when they talk about holden commodores straight up. Ha! I had to look that up. Guess I just don't consider cars intimate, either. quote:
I know that. What you are missing is that there are two people in a BDSM site seeking someone who is into BDSM also. Therefore, BDSM alone is a crucial point in that person you seek to weather they are going click with you or not. If you don't think it's a crucial point, why are they on a fucking BDSM website ONLY seeking someone who is kinky and not vanilla? There are a lot of people on the site who aren't seeking at all. You even said you were one of them. So, if you got contacted by someone way out of your age range, in a location that isn't anywhere near you, do you see the point in answering their email? quote:
So you are making absolutely no sense. Just nonsense. No, you just refuse to admit that there are plenty of reasons not to want to interact with everybody who crosses a woman's email. quote:
Where did I ever imply that women have to be interested in interacting with every man who emails them? Where is this coming from? We're supposed to be discussing the original topic, posted by a very specific OP. A person who even says he has a hundred mile preference range in his profile. Yet, he writes to people over 4000 away (cause he has written me) and wonders why he's not getting the response that he thinks he should get. quote:
This isn't about choosing who you're going to meet up and get intimate with. This is simply about a harmless email that has questions about kink in a respectful manner with no pressure and no expectations. It is discrimination when you assume a male is a user, creep, rapey or whatever simply because he asked you questions about BDSM on a fucking BDSM website and at a time that you don't want it because you think you can make up the rules of when a man can or cannot discuss BDSM on a BDSM website. Like it or not, I get to make the rules about who interacts with me. For what it's worth, you should probably let go of the 'respectful manner' stuff. You have no idea what was in the email the OP sent me anymore than I do. You're assuming he sent respectful questions. I'm going with it was someone that I had no interest in interacting with based on his forum posts. I mean, if you want to waste your time answering everybody who emails me, I'm sure we can figure something out. quote:
I'm not talking about the women who aren't seeking on websites. This has been about the women seeking men in these websites and then blaming men for not being lucky. But really it's their own fucking fault when they never make the effort to initiate contact. That's only one of the reasons... It's very very very fucking pathetic for women to blame men for their failings on a website when they aren't even willing to make the effort to approach men. Jesus people are bloody stupid to buy this. How did you get that from the OP?
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