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RE: Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disaster (2... - 3/20/2017 3:37:28 PM   
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"today's topic is 'Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disater (2018 is coming)'"


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disaster:

When Republicans imagined having a president of their own and control of Congress, they thought it would be a nonstop string of legislative achievements and improvements to government, bringing an inspiring new era of efficiency and effectiveness that showed Americans what the GOP was really capable of.

That is not quite how things are working out. Let’s take a brief tour around the news from just today, to see what is befalling the Trump administration:

-The travel ban: Federal judges in Hawaii and Maryland halted the second version of the administration’s travel ban, ruling that its discriminatory intent likely makes it unconstitutional and putting it on indefinite hold.

-The Affordable Care Act repeal: After a brutal Congressional Budget Office assessment showed that the Republican bill would cause 24 million Americans to lose their health coverage, House Speaker Paul Ryan now admits that the bill can’t pass the House in its current form.

-The budget: “President Trump on Thursday will unveil a budget plan that calls for a sharp increase in military spending and stark cuts across much of the rest of the government including the elimination of dozens of long-standing federal programs that assist the poor, fund scientific research and aid America’s allies abroad.”
That last one may not look like bad news — yet. But it’s going to produce both internal and external problems. It’s already causing consternation among Republicans on Capitol Hill, many of whom like to talk about limited government in the abstract but aren’t as happy about the kind of radical cuts the administration is suggesting, setting up a conflict between the White House and Congress. They’ll also find that the public, too, thinks “small government” sounds like a good idea until you start cutting the programs they depend on. And that’s before we even get to the Russia scandal.

What’s going on? The administration isn’t failing because of some brilliant strategy on Democrats’ part. They’re being weighed down by problems of their own making. In isolation each problem would be difficult but ultimately manageable; together they’re giving the administration nothing but bad days. Let’s take them each in turn:

Abysmal management. Trump was only the latest in a long line of political figures who argued that if someone from outside politics took over the government, he’d whip it into shape with his business savvy and management expertise. The result has been the most chaotic and incompetent White House anyone can remember. As Politico reported Wednesday, “A culture of paranoia is consuming the Trump administration, with staffers increasingly preoccupied with perceived enemies — inside their own government,” creating “an environment of fear that has hamstrung the routine functioning of the executive branch.”

Almost no one at the top levels of the Trump administration has experience in government, which not surprisingly has made everything more difficult as they bumble around trying to figure out how things work. Whether because of their own indifference to governing or the inability to find anyone willing to work for Trump, the administration hasn’t even nominated people to fill more than 500 of the 553 key positions requiring Senate confirmation, leaving agencies across the government barely able to function. If this is what Trump considers a “fine-tuned machine,” imagine what it would look like if it weren’t running so smoothly.

A disastrous first legislative priority. Republicans may have had no choice but to pursue the repeal of the ACA right off the bat, but they could hardly have gone about it in a less competent way. After seven years of attacking the law, they still hadn’t settled on their alternative, leading to a hastily written plan that not only would create a health-care catastrophe if implemented but also managed to win the displeasure of their members in both the Senate (for being too harsh) and the House (for not being harsh enough). Now the White House is saying it’s Paul Ryan’s fault, Ryan is trying to make Trump share the blame, and the whole thing is spiraling downward. Rich Lowry, the editor of the conservative National Review, writes that the repeal bill “has had the worst rollout of any major piece of legislation in memory,” and has left the GOP “staring into the abyss.”

An impulsive, distracted president. People keep wondering if the latest Trump outburst is a clever ploy to distract the country from whatever piece of bad news is currently vexing the administration. But the one who’s easily distractible is the president himself, and then he in turn distracts his staff and congressional allies. Just look at what’s happening with his accusation that President Barack Obama tapped his phones. On impulse, after reading an article on a white nationalist website, Trump levels a ludicrous and baseless charge, then everyone in the White House has to pretend that it’s serious and legitimate, and they’re forced to answer questions about it for weeks. All that time could be spent advancing an affirmative agenda.

Because he can never admit that he was wrong, Trump drags the issue out endlessly, just as he did with earlier iterations of this pattern, about the size of his inaugural crowd or the millions of phantom illegal votes that led to his popular vote loss (I’d encourage you to read the transcript of his Wednesday interview with Tucker Carlson and marvel at the fact that this man is actually president of the United States). That then makes life difficult for Republicans in Congress, who are put in the awkward position of either defending the latest bit of stupidity issuing from the Oval Office or being honest about how ridiculous it is, which they know would win them the president’s ire.

Much as you can blame Republicans in Congress, including Ryan, for being Trump’s enablers, there’s no doubt that they’re not happy about how things are going. And as time goes on and their minds turn to the 2018 elections, they’re going to start thinking more and more about their own survival. Given that even in the best of times the president’s party usually loses seats in the midterms, they may begin looking for ways to separate themselves from an unpopular president, which is only going to make future legislating more complicated.

http://washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/03/16/why-is-the-trump-presidency-such-a-rolling-disaster/?utm_term=2a6861a51a36





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RE: Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disaster (2... - 3/20/2017 3:39:25 PM   
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Running from political discussion, just like his GOP heroes.

Run, twat, run!

(Interesting that you don't mind "ignorant," just "twat.")

If you can't discuss the topic, pick a different thread. Of course, if I don't post there, you won't know what to post, but try it anyway.

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RE: Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disaster (2... - 3/20/2017 3:44:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Running from political discussion, just like his GOP heroes.

Run, twat, run!

(Interesting that you don't mind "ignorant," just "twat.")

If you can't discuss the topic, pick a different thread. Of course, if I don't post there, you won't know what to post, but try it anyway.


WTF makes you think I mind "twat"

I have to respect you before your words have any meaning

This is pure entertainment to me

Like I posted above, this is just like poking your festering oozing puss ball Siamese twin mnottertroll with a stick

You demand respect while screaming twat, what a hoot

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RE: Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disaster (2... - 3/20/2017 3:45:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disaster:

When Republicans imagined having a president of their own and control of Congress, they thought it would be a nonstop string of legislative achievements and improvements to government, bringing an inspiring new era of efficiency and effectiveness that showed Americans what the GOP was really capable of.

That is not quite how things are working out. Let’s take a brief tour around the news from just today, to see what is befalling the Trump administration:

-The travel ban: Federal judges in Hawaii and Maryland halted the second version of the administration’s travel ban, ruling that its discriminatory intent likely makes it unconstitutional and putting it on indefinite hold.

-The Affordable Care Act repeal: After a brutal Congressional Budget Office assessment showed that the Republican bill would cause 24 million Americans to lose their health coverage, House Speaker Paul Ryan now admits that the bill can’t pass the House in its current form.

-The budget: “President Trump on Thursday will unveil a budget plan that calls for a sharp increase in military spending and stark cuts across much of the rest of the government including the elimination of dozens of long-standing federal programs that assist the poor, fund scientific research and aid America’s allies abroad.”
That last one may not look like bad news — yet. But it’s going to produce both internal and external problems. It’s already causing consternation among Republicans on Capitol Hill, many of whom like to talk about limited government in the abstract but aren’t as happy about the kind of radical cuts the administration is suggesting, setting up a conflict between the White House and Congress. They’ll also find that the public, too, thinks “small government” sounds like a good idea until you start cutting the programs they depend on. And that’s before we even get to the Russia scandal.

What’s going on? The administration isn’t failing because of some brilliant strategy on Democrats’ part. They’re being weighed down by problems of their own making. In isolation each problem would be difficult but ultimately manageable; together they’re giving the administration nothing but bad days. Let’s take them each in turn:

Abysmal management. Trump was only the latest in a long line of political figures who argued that if someone from outside politics took over the government, he’d whip it into shape with his business savvy and management expertise. The result has been the most chaotic and incompetent White House anyone can remember. As Politico reported Wednesday, “A culture of paranoia is consuming the Trump administration, with staffers increasingly preoccupied with perceived enemies — inside their own government,” creating “an environment of fear that has hamstrung the routine functioning of the executive branch.”

Almost no one at the top levels of the Trump administration has experience in government, which not surprisingly has made everything more difficult as they bumble around trying to figure out how things work. Whether because of their own indifference to governing or the inability to find anyone willing to work for Trump, the administration hasn’t even nominated people to fill more than 500 of the 553 key positions requiring Senate confirmation, leaving agencies across the government barely able to function. If this is what Trump considers a “fine-tuned machine,” imagine what it would look like if it weren’t running so smoothly.

A disastrous first legislative priority. Republicans may have had no choice but to pursue the repeal of the ACA right off the bat, but they could hardly have gone about it in a less competent way. After seven years of attacking the law, they still hadn’t settled on their alternative, leading to a hastily written plan that not only would create a health-care catastrophe if implemented but also managed to win the displeasure of their members in both the Senate (for being too harsh) and the House (for not being harsh enough). Now the White House is saying it’s Paul Ryan’s fault, Ryan is trying to make Trump share the blame, and the whole thing is spiraling downward. Rich Lowry, the editor of the conservative National Review, writes that the repeal bill “has had the worst rollout of any major piece of legislation in memory,” and has left the GOP “staring into the abyss.”

An impulsive, distracted president. People keep wondering if the latest Trump outburst is a clever ploy to distract the country from whatever piece of bad news is currently vexing the administration. But the one who’s easily distractible is the president himself, and then he in turn distracts his staff and congressional allies. Just look at what’s happening with his accusation that President Barack Obama tapped his phones. On impulse, after reading an article on a white nationalist website, Trump levels a ludicrous and baseless charge, then everyone in the White House has to pretend that it’s serious and legitimate, and they’re forced to answer questions about it for weeks. All that time could be spent advancing an affirmative agenda.

Because he can never admit that he was wrong, Trump drags the issue out endlessly, just as he did with earlier iterations of this pattern, about the size of his inaugural crowd or the millions of phantom illegal votes that led to his popular vote loss (I’d encourage you to read the transcript of his Wednesday interview with Tucker Carlson and marvel at the fact that this man is actually president of the United States). That then makes life difficult for Republicans in Congress, who are put in the awkward position of either defending the latest bit of stupidity issuing from the Oval Office or being honest about how ridiculous it is, which they know would win them the president’s ire.

Much as you can blame Republicans in Congress, including Ryan, for being Trump’s enablers, there’s no doubt that they’re not happy about how things are going. And as time goes on and their minds turn to the 2018 elections, they’re going to start thinking more and more about their own survival. Given that even in the best of times the president’s party usually loses seats in the midterms, they may begin looking for ways to separate themselves from an unpopular president, which is only going to make future legislating more complicated.

http://washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/03/16/why-is-the-trump-presidency-such-a-rolling-disaster/?utm_term=2a6861a51a36



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RE: Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disaster (2... - 3/20/2017 3:50:01 PM   
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So start a thread.

This thread is on:


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disaster:

When Republicans imagined having a president of their own and control of Congress, they thought it would be a nonstop string of legislative achievements and improvements to government, bringing an inspiring new era of efficiency and effectiveness that showed Americans what the GOP was really capable of.

That is not quite how things are working out. Let’s take a brief tour around the news from just today, to see what is befalling the Trump administration:

-The travel ban: Federal judges in Hawaii and Maryland halted the second version of the administration’s travel ban, ruling that its discriminatory intent likely makes it unconstitutional and putting it on indefinite hold.

-The Affordable Care Act repeal: After a brutal Congressional Budget Office assessment showed that the Republican bill would cause 24 million Americans to lose their health coverage, House Speaker Paul Ryan now admits that the bill can’t pass the House in its current form.

-The budget: “President Trump on Thursday will unveil a budget plan that calls for a sharp increase in military spending and stark cuts across much of the rest of the government including the elimination of dozens of long-standing federal programs that assist the poor, fund scientific research and aid America’s allies abroad.”
That last one may not look like bad news — yet. But it’s going to produce both internal and external problems. It’s already causing consternation among Republicans on Capitol Hill, many of whom like to talk about limited government in the abstract but aren’t as happy about the kind of radical cuts the administration is suggesting, setting up a conflict between the White House and Congress. They’ll also find that the public, too, thinks “small government” sounds like a good idea until you start cutting the programs they depend on. And that’s before we even get to the Russia scandal.

What’s going on? The administration isn’t failing because of some brilliant strategy on Democrats’ part. They’re being weighed down by problems of their own making. In isolation each problem would be difficult but ultimately manageable; together they’re giving the administration nothing but bad days. Let’s take them each in turn:

Abysmal management. Trump was only the latest in a long line of political figures who argued that if someone from outside politics took over the government, he’d whip it into shape with his business savvy and management expertise. The result has been the most chaotic and incompetent White House anyone can remember. As Politico reported Wednesday, “A culture of paranoia is consuming the Trump administration, with staffers increasingly preoccupied with perceived enemies — inside their own government,” creating “an environment of fear that has hamstrung the routine functioning of the executive branch.”

Almost no one at the top levels of the Trump administration has experience in government, which not surprisingly has made everything more difficult as they bumble around trying to figure out how things work. Whether because of their own indifference to governing or the inability to find anyone willing to work for Trump, the administration hasn’t even nominated people to fill more than 500 of the 553 key positions requiring Senate confirmation, leaving agencies across the government barely able to function. If this is what Trump considers a “fine-tuned machine,” imagine what it would look like if it weren’t running so smoothly.

A disastrous first legislative priority. Republicans may have had no choice but to pursue the repeal of the ACA right off the bat, but they could hardly have gone about it in a less competent way. After seven years of attacking the law, they still hadn’t settled on their alternative, leading to a hastily written plan that not only would create a health-care catastrophe if implemented but also managed to win the displeasure of their members in both the Senate (for being too harsh) and the House (for not being harsh enough). Now the White House is saying it’s Paul Ryan’s fault, Ryan is trying to make Trump share the blame, and the whole thing is spiraling downward. Rich Lowry, the editor of the conservative National Review, writes that the repeal bill “has had the worst rollout of any major piece of legislation in memory,” and has left the GOP “staring into the abyss.”

An impulsive, distracted president. People keep wondering if the latest Trump outburst is a clever ploy to distract the country from whatever piece of bad news is currently vexing the administration. But the one who’s easily distractible is the president himself, and then he in turn distracts his staff and congressional allies. Just look at what’s happening with his accusation that President Barack Obama tapped his phones. On impulse, after reading an article on a white nationalist website, Trump levels a ludicrous and baseless charge, then everyone in the White House has to pretend that it’s serious and legitimate, and they’re forced to answer questions about it for weeks. All that time could be spent advancing an affirmative agenda.

Because he can never admit that he was wrong, Trump drags the issue out endlessly, just as he did with earlier iterations of this pattern, about the size of his inaugural crowd or the millions of phantom illegal votes that led to his popular vote loss (I’d encourage you to read the transcript of his Wednesday interview with Tucker Carlson and marvel at the fact that this man is actually president of the United States). That then makes life difficult for Republicans in Congress, who are put in the awkward position of either defending the latest bit of stupidity issuing from the Oval Office or being honest about how ridiculous it is, which they know would win them the president’s ire.

Much as you can blame Republicans in Congress, including Ryan, for being Trump’s enablers, there’s no doubt that they’re not happy about how things are going. And as time goes on and their minds turn to the 2018 elections, they’re going to start thinking more and more about their own survival. Given that even in the best of times the president’s party usually loses seats in the midterms, they may begin looking for ways to separate themselves from an unpopular president, which is only going to make future legislating more complicated.

http://washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/03/16/why-is-the-trump-presidency-such-a-rolling-disaster/?utm_term=2a6861a51a36



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RE: Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disaster (2... - 3/20/2017 3:55:17 PM   
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What a child. You have raised moronics to an art form.

Why? It certainly doesn't serve any political interest. That leaves -- your desperate attempts at attention to cover your insecurity.

"No! I'm NOT gonna start a thread! Make me!" Did you stomp your feet too, and threaten to hold your breath?


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disaster:

When Republicans imagined having a president of their own and control of Congress, they thought it would be a nonstop string of legislative achievements and improvements to government, bringing an inspiring new era of efficiency and effectiveness that showed Americans what the GOP was really capable of.

That is not quite how things are working out. Let’s take a brief tour around the news from just today, to see what is befalling the Trump administration:

-The travel ban: Federal judges in Hawaii and Maryland halted the second version of the administration’s travel ban, ruling that its discriminatory intent likely makes it unconstitutional and putting it on indefinite hold.

-The Affordable Care Act repeal: After a brutal Congressional Budget Office assessment showed that the Republican bill would cause 24 million Americans to lose their health coverage, House Speaker Paul Ryan now admits that the bill can’t pass the House in its current form.

-The budget: “President Trump on Thursday will unveil a budget plan that calls for a sharp increase in military spending and stark cuts across much of the rest of the government including the elimination of dozens of long-standing federal programs that assist the poor, fund scientific research and aid America’s allies abroad.”
That last one may not look like bad news — yet. But it’s going to produce both internal and external problems. It’s already causing consternation among Republicans on Capitol Hill, many of whom like to talk about limited government in the abstract but aren’t as happy about the kind of radical cuts the administration is suggesting, setting up a conflict between the White House and Congress. They’ll also find that the public, too, thinks “small government” sounds like a good idea until you start cutting the programs they depend on. And that’s before we even get to the Russia scandal.

What’s going on? The administration isn’t failing because of some brilliant strategy on Democrats’ part. They’re being weighed down by problems of their own making. In isolation each problem would be difficult but ultimately manageable; together they’re giving the administration nothing but bad days. Let’s take them each in turn:

Abysmal management. Trump was only the latest in a long line of political figures who argued that if someone from outside politics took over the government, he’d whip it into shape with his business savvy and management expertise. The result has been the most chaotic and incompetent White House anyone can remember. As Politico reported Wednesday, “A culture of paranoia is consuming the Trump administration, with staffers increasingly preoccupied with perceived enemies — inside their own government,” creating “an environment of fear that has hamstrung the routine functioning of the executive branch.”

Almost no one at the top levels of the Trump administration has experience in government, which not surprisingly has made everything more difficult as they bumble around trying to figure out how things work. Whether because of their own indifference to governing or the inability to find anyone willing to work for Trump, the administration hasn’t even nominated people to fill more than 500 of the 553 key positions requiring Senate confirmation, leaving agencies across the government barely able to function. If this is what Trump considers a “fine-tuned machine,” imagine what it would look like if it weren’t running so smoothly.

A disastrous first legislative priority. Republicans may have had no choice but to pursue the repeal of the ACA right off the bat, but they could hardly have gone about it in a less competent way. After seven years of attacking the law, they still hadn’t settled on their alternative, leading to a hastily written plan that not only would create a health-care catastrophe if implemented but also managed to win the displeasure of their members in both the Senate (for being too harsh) and the House (for not being harsh enough). Now the White House is saying it’s Paul Ryan’s fault, Ryan is trying to make Trump share the blame, and the whole thing is spiraling downward. Rich Lowry, the editor of the conservative National Review, writes that the repeal bill “has had the worst rollout of any major piece of legislation in memory,” and has left the GOP “staring into the abyss.”

An impulsive, distracted president. People keep wondering if the latest Trump outburst is a clever ploy to distract the country from whatever piece of bad news is currently vexing the administration. But the one who’s easily distractible is the president himself, and then he in turn distracts his staff and congressional allies. Just look at what’s happening with his accusation that President Barack Obama tapped his phones. On impulse, after reading an article on a white nationalist website, Trump levels a ludicrous and baseless charge, then everyone in the White House has to pretend that it’s serious and legitimate, and they’re forced to answer questions about it for weeks. All that time could be spent advancing an affirmative agenda.

Because he can never admit that he was wrong, Trump drags the issue out endlessly, just as he did with earlier iterations of this pattern, about the size of his inaugural crowd or the millions of phantom illegal votes that led to his popular vote loss (I’d encourage you to read the transcript of his Wednesday interview with Tucker Carlson and marvel at the fact that this man is actually president of the United States). That then makes life difficult for Republicans in Congress, who are put in the awkward position of either defending the latest bit of stupidity issuing from the Oval Office or being honest about how ridiculous it is, which they know would win them the president’s ire.

Much as you can blame Republicans in Congress, including Ryan, for being Trump’s enablers, there’s no doubt that they’re not happy about how things are going. And as time goes on and their minds turn to the 2018 elections, they’re going to start thinking more and more about their own survival. Given that even in the best of times the president’s party usually loses seats in the midterms, they may begin looking for ways to separate themselves from an unpopular president, which is only going to make future legislating more complicated.

http://washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/03/16/why-is-the-trump-presidency-such-a-rolling-disaster/?utm_term=2a6861a51a36


That's the topic.

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RE: Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disaster (2... - 3/20/2017 3:56:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

So start a thread.

This thread is on:


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disaster:

When Republicans imagined having a president of their own and control of Congress, they thought it would be a nonstop string of legislative achievements and improvements to government, bringing an inspiring new era of efficiency and effectiveness that showed Americans what the GOP was really capable of.

That is not quite how things are working out. Let’s take a brief tour around the news from just today, to see what is befalling the Trump administration:

-The travel ban: Federal judges in Hawaii and Maryland halted the second version of the administration’s travel ban, ruling that its discriminatory intent likely makes it unconstitutional and putting it on indefinite hold.

-The Affordable Care Act repeal: After a brutal Congressional Budget Office assessment showed that the Republican bill would cause 24 million Americans to lose their health coverage, House Speaker Paul Ryan now admits that the bill can’t pass the House in its current form.

-The budget: “President Trump on Thursday will unveil a budget plan that calls for a sharp increase in military spending and stark cuts across much of the rest of the government including the elimination of dozens of long-standing federal programs that assist the poor, fund scientific research and aid America’s allies abroad.”
That last one may not look like bad news — yet. But it’s going to produce both internal and external problems. It’s already causing consternation among Republicans on Capitol Hill, many of whom like to talk about limited government in the abstract but aren’t as happy about the kind of radical cuts the administration is suggesting, setting up a conflict between the White House and Congress. They’ll also find that the public, too, thinks “small government” sounds like a good idea until you start cutting the programs they depend on. And that’s before we even get to the Russia scandal.

What’s going on? The administration isn’t failing because of some brilliant strategy on Democrats’ part. They’re being weighed down by problems of their own making. In isolation each problem would be difficult but ultimately manageable; together they’re giving the administration nothing but bad days. Let’s take them each in turn:

Abysmal management. Trump was only the latest in a long line of political figures who argued that if someone from outside politics took over the government, he’d whip it into shape with his business savvy and management expertise. The result has been the most chaotic and incompetent White House anyone can remember. As Politico reported Wednesday, “A culture of paranoia is consuming the Trump administration, with staffers increasingly preoccupied with perceived enemies — inside their own government,” creating “an environment of fear that has hamstrung the routine functioning of the executive branch.”

Almost no one at the top levels of the Trump administration has experience in government, which not surprisingly has made everything more difficult as they bumble around trying to figure out how things work. Whether because of their own indifference to governing or the inability to find anyone willing to work for Trump, the administration hasn’t even nominated people to fill more than 500 of the 553 key positions requiring Senate confirmation, leaving agencies across the government barely able to function. If this is what Trump considers a “fine-tuned machine,” imagine what it would look like if it weren’t running so smoothly.

A disastrous first legislative priority. Republicans may have had no choice but to pursue the repeal of the ACA right off the bat, but they could hardly have gone about it in a less competent way. After seven years of attacking the law, they still hadn’t settled on their alternative, leading to a hastily written plan that not only would create a health-care catastrophe if implemented but also managed to win the displeasure of their members in both the Senate (for being too harsh) and the House (for not being harsh enough). Now the White House is saying it’s Paul Ryan’s fault, Ryan is trying to make Trump share the blame, and the whole thing is spiraling downward. Rich Lowry, the editor of the conservative National Review, writes that the repeal bill “has had the worst rollout of any major piece of legislation in memory,” and has left the GOP “staring into the abyss.”

An impulsive, distracted president. People keep wondering if the latest Trump outburst is a clever ploy to distract the country from whatever piece of bad news is currently vexing the administration. But the one who’s easily distractible is the president himself, and then he in turn distracts his staff and congressional allies. Just look at what’s happening with his accusation that President Barack Obama tapped his phones. On impulse, after reading an article on a white nationalist website, Trump levels a ludicrous and baseless charge, then everyone in the White House has to pretend that it’s serious and legitimate, and they’re forced to answer questions about it for weeks. All that time could be spent advancing an affirmative agenda.

Because he can never admit that he was wrong, Trump drags the issue out endlessly, just as he did with earlier iterations of this pattern, about the size of his inaugural crowd or the millions of phantom illegal votes that led to his popular vote loss (I’d encourage you to read the transcript of his Wednesday interview with Tucker Carlson and marvel at the fact that this man is actually president of the United States). That then makes life difficult for Republicans in Congress, who are put in the awkward position of either defending the latest bit of stupidity issuing from the Oval Office or being honest about how ridiculous it is, which they know would win them the president’s ire.

Much as you can blame Republicans in Congress, including Ryan, for being Trump’s enablers, there’s no doubt that they’re not happy about how things are going. And as time goes on and their minds turn to the 2018 elections, they’re going to start thinking more and more about their own survival. Given that even in the best of times the president’s party usually loses seats in the midterms, they may begin looking for ways to separate themselves from an unpopular president, which is only going to make future legislating more complicated.

http://washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/03/16/why-is-the-trump-presidency-such-a-rolling-disaster/?utm_term=2a6861a51a36





I don't really understand how they can consider him distracted when he hasn't stopped since he took office. He seems to hardly sleep.

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RE: Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disaster (2... - 3/20/2017 4:00:05 PM   
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TRUMP’S ACCOMPLISHMENTS: THE FIRST 50 DAYS
The astounding list of achievements
Paul Joseph Watson | Infowars.com - MARCH 10, 2017 1238 Comments
Trump's Accomplishments: The First 50 Days
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With Donald Trump approaching his first 50 days in office and with today’s news that the U.S. has added 235,000 new jobs, it’s truly astounding to consider what Trump has achieved in just the short time he has been president.
Here’s a list of Trump’s accomplishments so far;
– Trump is already beginning to fulfil his promise of being the best jobs president ever.
U.S. employers added jobs beyond expectations in both January (238,000) and February (235,000), with the unemployment rate falling to 4.7% and wages growing 2.8%. According to Bloomberg, America’s labor market is getting better “by any measure”.

– Trump has cut the U.S. debt burden by $68 billion dollars.
Since the day of his inauguration, Trump has wiped $68 billion off the national debt, which had ballooned to $19,947 billion under Obama.
– Manufacturing is at its most robust since 1984.
The Philly Fed Index, a survey of how well manufacturers are doing, hit its highest level since 1984.
– Small and medium businesses are confident about the future.
The NFIB Small Business Optimism Index is at its highest level since 2004. Economic confidence is surging.

– The stock market keeps topping record highs.
The Dow closed above 20,000 for the first time ever days after Trump’s inauguration and hasn’t stopped rising since. The Dow has surged more than 2500 points since Trump was elected – a 12 per cent spike.
– Samsung is moving jobs back to the U.S. as a result of Trump’s election.
The technology giant will invest $300 million in expanding U.S. production facilities, creating around 500 jobs.

– Exxon moving jobs back to the U.S. as a result of Trump’s election.
Exxon will spend $20 billion over 10 years on 11 plants along the Gulf Coast, creating a whopping 45,000 jobs for American workers.
– Trump saved the Carrier plant in Indiana.
Trump stopped the Indianapolis air conditioning plant from relocating to Mexico, saving hundreds of jobs.
– Fiat will invest $1 billion in two U.S. factories
Fiat Chrysler is set to invest $1 billion in two factories in Toledo and Detroit, an expansion that will create 2,000 jobs.
– Hasbro is to start making play-doh in the U.S. again.
U.S. Hasbro, Inc. is returning to the U.S. and will make the beloved children’s modeling clay in a Massachusetts factory rather than in China or Turkey.
– Trump signed an executive order ending Obama’s onerous regulations on the coal industry.
Obama tried to bankrupt the coal industry, Trump is revitalizing it.

– Trump killed the Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal.
This would have handed yet more power over to unelected globalists, creating a global regulatory structure detrimental to all Americans.
– Illegal immigration from Mexico is down 40 per cent in Trump’s first month.
Border crossings have already dropped by 40 per cent, according to the DHS as Trump moves forward with his campaign promise to build a wall.

– Trump issued an executive order to end “sanctuary cities”.
Trump has ordered the DOJ and Homeland Security to withhold federal funds from cities that harbor criminal illegal aliens.
– Trump began the repeal and replacement of Obamacare.
Although Speaker Ryan’s Obamacare replacement is being rightly condemned, Trump has at least set in motion the repeal of this disastrous policy which has seen premiums skyrocket and choice diminished.
– Trump selected Neil Gorsuch for the Supreme Court.
Gorsuch is a strict constitutionalist and will defend fundamental freedoms, protecting Americans from the scourge of judicial activism.
– Trump approved the Dakota Access Pipeline and the Keystone Pipeline.
The long awaited approval of these projects will create jobs and reduce gas prices for all Americans.
– Trump cut funding for international abortions.
American taxpayers are no longer paying for babies to be aborted by international non-governmental agencies.

– Trump returned the power to make decisions on “transgender bathrooms” to the states
The president ordered the DOJ to “withdraw a motion filed by former President Barack Obama seeking to allow transgender students in public schools to use the restroom with which they identify.”
Trump and his team have accomplished all of this in just under 50 days, despite the best efforts of the Democrats and the deep state to sabotage his embryonic administration at every stage.
This list would be a phenomenal achievement for a president who is entering office with momentum, political capital and fair media treatment, but Trump has accomplished it all even in the face of total resistance, sabotage and dirty tricks from the left and the establishment media.
Trump Supports Rand Paul

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I don't really understand how they can consider him distracted when he hasn't stopped since he took office. He seems to hardly sleep.



They're hysterical. They scream about everything, they scream about nothing. They scream at shadows, insist they're twats

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TRUMP’S ACCOMPLISHMENTS: THE FIRST 50 DAYS
The astounding list of achievements
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Trump's Accomplishments: The First 50 Days
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With Donald Trump approaching his first 50 days in office and with today’s news that the U.S. has added 235,000 new jobs, it’s truly astounding to consider what Trump has achieved in just the short time he has been president.
Here’s a list of Trump’s accomplishments so far;
– Trump is already beginning to fulfil his promise of being the best jobs president ever.
U.S. employers added jobs beyond expectations in both January (238,000) and February (235,000), with the unemployment rate falling to 4.7% and wages growing 2.8%. According to Bloomberg, America’s labor market is getting better “by any measure”.

– Trump has cut the U.S. debt burden by $68 billion dollars.
Since the day of his inauguration, Trump has wiped $68 billion off the national debt, which had ballooned to $19,947 billion under Obama.
– Manufacturing is at its most robust since 1984.
The Philly Fed Index, a survey of how well manufacturers are doing, hit its highest level since 1984.
– Small and medium businesses are confident about the future.
The NFIB Small Business Optimism Index is at its highest level since 2004. Economic confidence is surging.

– The stock market keeps topping record highs.
The Dow closed above 20,000 for the first time ever days after Trump’s inauguration and hasn’t stopped rising since. The Dow has surged more than 2500 points since Trump was elected – a 12 per cent spike.
– Samsung is moving jobs back to the U.S. as a result of Trump’s election.
The technology giant will invest $300 million in expanding U.S. production facilities, creating around 500 jobs.

– Exxon moving jobs back to the U.S. as a result of Trump’s election.
Exxon will spend $20 billion over 10 years on 11 plants along the Gulf Coast, creating a whopping 45,000 jobs for American workers.
– Trump saved the Carrier plant in Indiana.
Trump stopped the Indianapolis air conditioning plant from relocating to Mexico, saving hundreds of jobs.
– Fiat will invest $1 billion in two U.S. factories
Fiat Chrysler is set to invest $1 billion in two factories in Toledo and Detroit, an expansion that will create 2,000 jobs.
– Hasbro is to start making play-doh in the U.S. again.
U.S. Hasbro, Inc. is returning to the U.S. and will make the beloved children’s modeling clay in a Massachusetts factory rather than in China or Turkey.
– Trump signed an executive order ending Obama’s onerous regulations on the coal industry.
Obama tried to bankrupt the coal industry, Trump is revitalizing it.

– Trump killed the Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal.
This would have handed yet more power over to unelected globalists, creating a global regulatory structure detrimental to all Americans.
– Illegal immigration from Mexico is down 40 per cent in Trump’s first month.
Border crossings have already dropped by 40 per cent, according to the DHS as Trump moves forward with his campaign promise to build a wall.

– Trump issued an executive order to end “sanctuary cities”.
Trump has ordered the DOJ and Homeland Security to withhold federal funds from cities that harbor criminal illegal aliens.
– Trump began the repeal and replacement of Obamacare.
Although Speaker Ryan’s Obamacare replacement is being rightly condemned, Trump has at least set in motion the repeal of this disastrous policy which has seen premiums skyrocket and choice diminished.
– Trump selected Neil Gorsuch for the Supreme Court.
Gorsuch is a strict constitutionalist and will defend fundamental freedoms, protecting Americans from the scourge of judicial activism.
– Trump approved the Dakota Access Pipeline and the Keystone Pipeline.
The long awaited approval of these projects will create jobs and reduce gas prices for all Americans.
– Trump cut funding for international abortions.
American taxpayers are no longer paying for babies to be aborted by international non-governmental agencies.

– Trump returned the power to make decisions on “transgender bathrooms” to the states
The president ordered the DOJ to “withdraw a motion filed by former President Barack Obama seeking to allow transgender students in public schools to use the restroom with which they identify.”
Trump and his team have accomplished all of this in just under 50 days, despite the best efforts of the Democrats and the deep state to sabotage his embryonic administration at every stage.
This list would be a phenomenal achievement for a president who is entering office with momentum, political capital and fair media treatment, but Trump has accomplished it all even in the face of total resistance, sabotage and dirty tricks from the left and the establishment media.
Trump Supports Rand Paul

So why do you think REPUBLICANS are worried about him?


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Republicans worry about Trump's rolling disaster:

When Republicans imagined having a president of their own and control of Congress, they thought it would be a nonstop string of legislative achievements and improvements to government, bringing an inspiring new era of efficiency and effectiveness that showed Americans what the GOP was really capable of.

That is not quite how things are working out. Let’s take a brief tour around the news from just today, to see what is befalling the Trump administration:

-The travel ban: Federal judges in Hawaii and Maryland halted the second version of the administration’s travel ban, ruling that its discriminatory intent likely makes it unconstitutional and putting it on indefinite hold.

-The Affordable Care Act repeal: After a brutal Congressional Budget Office assessment showed that the Republican bill would cause 24 million Americans to lose their health coverage, House Speaker Paul Ryan now admits that the bill can’t pass the House in its current form.

-The budget: “President Trump on Thursday will unveil a budget plan that calls for a sharp increase in military spending and stark cuts across much of the rest of the government including the elimination of dozens of long-standing federal programs that assist the poor, fund scientific research and aid America’s allies abroad.”
That last one may not look like bad news — yet. But it’s going to produce both internal and external problems. It’s already causing consternation among Republicans on Capitol Hill, many of whom like to talk about limited government in the abstract but aren’t as happy about the kind of radical cuts the administration is suggesting, setting up a conflict between the White House and Congress. They’ll also find that the public, too, thinks “small government” sounds like a good idea until you start cutting the programs they depend on. And that’s before we even get to the Russia scandal.

What’s going on? The administration isn’t failing because of some brilliant strategy on Democrats’ part. They’re being weighed down by problems of their own making. In isolation each problem would be difficult but ultimately manageable; together they’re giving the administration nothing but bad days. Let’s take them each in turn:

Abysmal management. Trump was only the latest in a long line of political figures who argued that if someone from outside politics took over the government, he’d whip it into shape with his business savvy and management expertise. The result has been the most chaotic and incompetent White House anyone can remember. As Politico reported Wednesday, “A culture of paranoia is consuming the Trump administration, with staffers increasingly preoccupied with perceived enemies — inside their own government,” creating “an environment of fear that has hamstrung the routine functioning of the executive branch.”

Almost no one at the top levels of the Trump administration has experience in government, which not surprisingly has made everything more difficult as they bumble around trying to figure out how things work. Whether because of their own indifference to governing or the inability to find anyone willing to work for Trump, the administration hasn’t even nominated people to fill more than 500 of the 553 key positions requiring Senate confirmation, leaving agencies across the government barely able to function. If this is what Trump considers a “fine-tuned machine,” imagine what it would look like if it weren’t running so smoothly.

A disastrous first legislative priority. Republicans may have had no choice but to pursue the repeal of the ACA right off the bat, but they could hardly have gone about it in a less competent way. After seven years of attacking the law, they still hadn’t settled on their alternative, leading to a hastily written plan that not only would create a health-care catastrophe if implemented but also managed to win the displeasure of their members in both the Senate (for being too harsh) and the House (for not being harsh enough). Now the White House is saying it’s Paul Ryan’s fault, Ryan is trying to make Trump share the blame, and the whole thing is spiraling downward. Rich Lowry, the editor of the conservative National Review, writes that the repeal bill “has had the worst rollout of any major piece of legislation in memory,” and has left the GOP “staring into the abyss.”

An impulsive, distracted president. People keep wondering if the latest Trump outburst is a clever ploy to distract the country from whatever piece of bad news is currently vexing the administration. But the one who’s easily distractible is the president himself, and then he in turn distracts his staff and congressional allies. Just look at what’s happening with his accusation that President Barack Obama tapped his phones. On impulse, after reading an article on a white nationalist website, Trump levels a ludicrous and baseless charge, then everyone in the White House has to pretend that it’s serious and legitimate, and they’re forced to answer questions about it for weeks. All that time could be spent advancing an affirmative agenda.

Because he can never admit that he was wrong, Trump drags the issue out endlessly, just as he did with earlier iterations of this pattern, about the size of his inaugural crowd or the millions of phantom illegal votes that led to his popular vote loss (I’d encourage you to read the transcript of his Wednesday interview with Tucker Carlson and marvel at the fact that this man is actually president of the United States). That then makes life difficult for Republicans in Congress, who are put in the awkward position of either defending the latest bit of stupidity issuing from the Oval Office or being honest about how ridiculous it is, which they know would win them the president’s ire.

Much as you can blame Republicans in Congress, including Ryan, for being Trump’s enablers, there’s no doubt that they’re not happy about how things are going. And as time goes on and their minds turn to the 2018 elections, they’re going to start thinking more and more about their own survival. Given that even in the best of times the president’s party usually loses seats in the midterms, they may begin looking for ways to separate themselves from an unpopular president, which is only going to make future legislating more complicated.

http://washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/03/16/why-is-the-trump-presidency-such-a-rolling-disaster/?utm_term=2a6861a51a36



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Where we differ is -- I think he's already fucked up his chance, while you're waiting for I don't know what to give him that chance.

At what point will you consider chance blown for you? I'm just wondering.


Every days news seems to plant him further in to the detritus.

"At what point will you consider chance blown for you?"


I'm not sure....but 60 days (and 365 days) ain't that number.



Every day he does or says something else ridiculous and it makes the news.


No argument MM...but...think for a second....how often has REAL change occurred in OUR lifetime (I know you're smart enough to grasp the difference between "News" and....hyperbole)...think....for one minute....hate this fucker all you want but...the fucker is ripping up shit...hate this man all you want but he is ripping up the establishment and....if you want to know what he's gonna do....quit reading the funny papers (or tremendously unformed people's posts)....read his book.

It's all there and....it works (I've been doing it exactly that way for 30 years and I've made FUCKLOADS of money (and I do mean fuckloads).....check this out):

We now owe 20 trillion dollars (900 billion when the "Great Savior" {20th century's BIGGEST con job} took office yet, he (Reagan) QUADRUPLED a debt that took us 212 years to acquire.

In just 8 years....using "I will reduce the deficit to zero in FOUR years" as his mantra.

The Press is determined to convince you: Trump wants to destroy women...steal their incomes, destroy every opportunity they may ever have.....(and ever had).

My office staff (MOSTLY women) earn more than the standard....the WOMEN in my office make MORE than men, and have since the early 80's (by the way....for the record...UNLIKE Clinton...who paid 71% as against men in the SAME position....{it's on record} Trump paid MORE for women...and has for as long as I have)....why?

Because they produced more.

MY staff gets 100% medical...paid....with NO waiting period.

Why?

Because they make me SHITLOADS of money.

(And it can be done if you're not throwing money down a LUBRICATED.....CORRUPT SHITHOLE!!!

Yeah there's assholes out there but....they are declining.

Your Momma taught you better....MY Momma taught me better and....the FACTS taught me better.

And Trump.....(sue me) pays women better.

WHAT????????????????????????????????????????

(That too is on the record).

So....why would he change his gig now?

(And why in the hell would he change ANYTHING that is DESTINED to make this country stronger....when he's been doing EVERYTHING EVERYONE is certain he's against....when....he's done EVERYTHING everyone is certain he'll destroy....for decades?).

Will YOU tomorrow....change EVERYTHING you've EVER been about....(for ANY reason)?????

How likely are YOU to change EVERYTHING you've ever believed in....on a dime, and become EVERYTHING everyone is CERTAIN you would become....SOLELY because EVERYONE (other than you)...is afraid that you might do something ENTIRELY UNLIKE EVERY BIT of your personal history.....

EVER.

?

THINK!

(And QUIT buying in to Hyperbole).

Therefore....why is everyone doing their best to cut the dude to shreds?

Because they don't (REALLY) want (real) change.

They don't want change....just more of the same (which, for the record, includes every new debt that every one of us has argued can't be sustained (since the 20's!).

They (actually) want everything to stay exactly the same.....more free everything.

They want the teachers unions to remain in charge.

Jeeeezus GAWDAMN!!!! It costs an AVERAGE in the United States of $15,000.00 per student ($600,000.00 PER CLASS....one teacher) PER YEAR to educate a child ($25,000.00 grand a year / $1,000,000.00 per child a year...in Washington DC).

My Dad sent me to private school in 1976 for $6,000.00 a year in a FINE school....today that same school costs $35,000.00 per kid....an elite school, I'll admit. The AVERAGE "Charter school" today, across the United States...costs $17,500.00 a year...MOST cost less....and they produce kids that graduate earlier and faster than ANY average public school....(with BETTER STEM skills).

I want kids to graduate.

"They" want the government unions to stay in charge.

They want roads to CONTINUE to cost 3 million dollars a mile (paying people who are THRILLED to make 23 bucks an hour....with the unions insisting that they get paid 65 bucks an hour....but there's a missing component): At 65 bucks an hour.....27 of that goes to the union.

(When Texas....with a vastly different wage system....pays just shy of $900,000.00 a mile for the same road).

I want more (and better) roads.

And we can have them.

27 WASTED dollars an hour (that YOU are paying for....dude...trust me...I pay that....and MORE on all federally and state funded construction projects!)....think about that for just one minute....27 dollars an hour that the employee NEVER see's.....

Where does it go?

Now....let's do the math....174 HOURS a month (40 hours a week / 4.34 weeks per month)....for health care, retirement (that no one will EVER see unless they work for the union for a MINIMUM of 10 years....which....for the record....statistically....LESS than 80% EVER do)...

That's $4,700.00 a month....per man (or woman).

Can you buy health insurance for that?

Retirement?

Now....add in that 80% will NEVER collect a dime.

(Here's some help for the math impaired: That means that IN FACT.....$24,000.00 a MONTH is actually going towards that "cost"....and if you don't think you can pay for insurance or retirement for 24 grand a month....well....dude....I have an island to sell you.

You got some FAR better weed than I do!

Does "Slush Fund" come to mind?

ALL of this can be eviscerated if the world says "ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT.....NO MORE FUCKING LIES!!!"

Yeah....THAT is what the Republicans are trying to say....and THAT is what the world is trying to say as loudly as it can: ENOUGH!@!!!

It's time to say ENOUGH.

Enough.

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Where we differ is -- I think he's already fucked up his chance, while you're waiting for I don't know what to give him that chance.

At what point will you consider chance blown for you? I'm just wondering.


Every days news seems to plant him further in to the detritus.

"At what point will you consider chance blown for you?"


I'm not sure....but 60 days (and 365 days) ain't that number.



Every day he does or says something else ridiculous and it makes the news.


Or if, say... Kellyanne sits on a couch, something scandalous like that, and all of your favorite propaganda providers take your hysterical fits to a whole new level




Well, she was sitting exactly the way a Russian spy would.


Hahahahahahahaha

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Congress passed the law authorizing presidents to enact any ban they see fit a long time ago

Really, maybe you can state where that can be found, since you seem to be such an expert.

(It's actual law).

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Why not try informing yourself before exposing your vast ignorance on occasion

Unlike you, who seem to be the resident expert on everything and your word is law, I don’t have any misconceptions about my “vast ignorance” and know that on 'occasion" it will show up in print.
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And nothing has made it to the SC as of yet, these hack lower leverl political operative judges making laws from the bench mean very little

(It didn't have to. Congress passed it....see above...it's law).



Any federal court can rule something unconstitutional, it is just that the “SC” has the final word on the matter.

(Just for clarity...."the federal court" is....uhmmmm.....the S.C.).



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Three branches. It's how things work.

Even for the obnoxious trolling people.

And that's a REAL fact, not an "alternative" fact.


And they are....working quite effectively.

All branches.

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I don't think I'd consider iconoclasm as change in any positive sense.

If it all works out wonderfully, I'll be delighted to say you were right all along.

But I'm not seeing the signs of promising results you're hoping for.

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I don't think I'd consider iconoclasm as change in any positive sense.

If it all works out wonderfully, I'll be delighted to say you were right all along.

But I'm not seeing the signs of promising results you're hoping for.


I don't think we're there yet MM.

(And I've heard every possible correlation between Trump and Hitler).

Anyone that's read either history...or knows anything about "checks and balances" knows....those references are ridiculous at best.

Should we be aware?

DOH!!!

Are we moving towards (anything) that could be correlated?

I think the obvious answer is "Yes".

But....the first thing that has to come in to any rational discussion is....as much as we would LOVE to take care of everyone.....

Our current credit card balance states without debate: No.....we cannot.

So....do we cut everything? Sure seems like with all this debt, that might be a wise move.

That's what some think is happening and yet....just 100 years ago (before we were a wealthy nation), the Catholic Church took care of indigents (as did most churches).

Lady's welfare societies took care of others in need.

Most families took in their own parents when they aged (hmmmmm....now there's a crazy idea....put your Mom and Dad with someone who loves them....not a stranger)....and yet, as the world (and the U.S,) became richer....we let the Government do the dirty work.

Who lost there?

(Your Mom).

Maybe it's time we looked back....instead of forward.

And maybe.....everything old....just might be new again.

Change sucks.

Change is absolutely required.

(The previous system ain't working).

(And for the record....except for those dumb fucks that want everything to change....except for their shit....EVERYONE knows this).

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I don't think I'd consider iconoclasm as change in any positive sense.

If it all works out wonderfully, I'll be delighted to say you were right all along.

But I'm not seeing the signs of promising results you're hoping for.


I submit that.....after 110 years of increasing our debt....that here....at EXACTLY 60 days of trying to turn that very tide (110 years = 40,150 days)...we have a ways to go to see those results.

Ain't no better place to start than.....today.

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Until Reagan, we were the world's largest creditor nation.

Eight years of trickle down magical government is the problem mentality later, we were the world's largest debtor nation.

You know well that debt as a standing number is irrelevant compared to debt as a percentage of GDP. So the 110 years thing is specious. Additionally, at times debt is necessary -- WWII, for instance.

And, programs were created to solve problems. "We're just not gonna pay for the solutions anymore" just means we get the problems back.

Additionally (it's a couple years back, but I'm not gonna Google all night just to make this point -- you'll get it): "The financial position of the United States includes assets of at least $269.6 trillion (1576% of GDP) and debts of $145.8 trillion (852% of GDP) to produce a net worth of at least $123.8 trillion (723% of GDP) [a] as of Q1 2014."

US GDP is over $17 trillion, closing in on twice that of China, and 1/5 of global GDP, with less than 5% of the population.

While I agree we need to look seriously at our budget -- we're not exactly going broke next week.

For starters, we could CUT our bloated military budget -- which includes things the military doesn't even want -- instead of dramatically increasing it.

Anyone who seriously looks at addressing the national debt -- and you'll see both parties are at fault here -- MUST, according to any independent analysis, include ALL of the following:

- adjust Medicaid/Medicare
- adjust Social Security
- cut the military budget
- cut spending
- raise taxes

Instead . . . We have people peddling their personal agendas, and in the case of the oligarchy, primarily to enrich themselves.

Reagan's own people admitted trickle down was a failure. But there were those who enjoy the benefits of a widening gulf between the top and bottom. That's not good for the economy or the markets long term.

Trump/Ryan certainly don't have a better answer -- except for them.

Who will pay for the resulting mess? You and I. And a lot more people who can't afford to pay (for something they didn't cause).

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Until Reagan, we were the world's largest creditor nation.

Eight years of trickle down magical government is the problem mentality later, we were the world's largest debtor nation.

You know well that debt as a standing number is irrelevant compared to debt as a percentage of GDP. So the 110 years thing is specious. Additionally, at times debt is necessary -- WWII, for instance.

And, programs were created to solve problems. "We're just not gonna pay for the solutions anymore" just means we get the problems back.

Additionally (it's a couple years back, but I'm not gonna Google all night just to make this point -- you'll get it): "The financial position of the United States includes assets of at least $269.6 trillion (1576% of GDP) and debts of $145.8 trillion (852% of GDP) to produce a net worth of at least $123.8 trillion (723% of GDP) [a] as of Q1 2014."

US GDP is over $17 trillion, closing in on twice that of China, and 1/5 of global GDP, with less than 5% of the population.

While I agree we need to look seriously at our budget -- we're not exactly going broke next week.

For starters, we could CUT our bloated military budget -- which includes things the military doesn't even want -- instead of dramatically increasing it.

Anyone who seriously looks at addressing the national debt -- and you'll see both parties are at fault here -- MUST, according to any independent analysis, include ALL of the following:

- adjust Medicaid/Medicare
- adjust Social Security
- cut the military budget
- cut spending
- raise taxes

Instead . . . We have people peddling their personal agendas, and in the case of the oligarchy, primarily to enrich themselves.

Reagan's own people admitted trickle down was a failure. But there were those who enjoy the benefits of a widening gulf between the top and bottom. That's not good for the economy or the markets long term.

Trump/Ryan certainly don't have a better answer -- except for them.

Who will pay for the resulting mess? You and I. And a lot more people who can't afford to pay (for something they didn't cause).


"Reagan..."

This, from the misogynist "progressive" who cries and moans about people mentioning Hillary

The hypocrisy goes on, and on, and on

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It was a good discussion until the ignorant twat troll showed up to spew his pointlessness.

All about me.

Seriously, just fuck off. Let the two of us show how to have a discussion even though we disagree.

You don't have to piss on what you can't seem to do.

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