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heavyblinker -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/21/2017 1:13:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Well we do know that the Russians have been doing this at least since Ted Kwnnedy asked them to help defeat Ronald Reagan in the '80's.

http://dailysignal.com/2016/12/14/ted-kennedy-made-secret-overtures-to-russia-to-prevent-ronald-reagans-re-election/

So I wonder why all of the lefties are having a hissy fit now? Because it's a kool aid distraction from the crook's campaign that is encountering a lingering death.


Yeah, let's compare a fruitless 1983 meeting between a dead guy who never even ran for president and proven interference that led to the election of the piece of shit currently sitting in the White House.

You want me to say this Kennedy fiasco was a shitty thing? It was a shitty thing. It was terrible. He should be dragged out of his grave and put on trial immediately. His family members should be interrogated. I don't know if it's real or not, and I don't think anyone is investigating it (unlike the Trump thing), but wow is it ever bad.

Okay, so now let's focus on the present and the fact that the Russians helped Trump win the election.
Oh wait, you can't-- because you are incapable of looking at the situation objectively.




heavyblinker -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/21/2017 1:18:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
Why are you shocked? Look who they voted for: you'd have to be pretty retarded to support that, wouldn't you?


Yeah, but I always thought it was because even though they knew he was lying about everything, they still figured that there was a small chance that whatever he would actually end up doing would be good, whereas they knew that Hillary would just continue the tradition of screwing them over. I thought they saw fuckface as their piece of shit bully-- someone who was willing to be a tough, nasty, lying, disgusting piece of shit in order to get them what they want.

Instead they got something much much worse.




BoscoX -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/21/2017 1:36:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Donald Trump was seen as more honest, more likable, and a better leader


I honestly don't know what Trump voters thought he was when they voted, but if what you're saying is true they were royally conned, and I'm frankly shocked that they could be that stupid.


Trump voters, Hillary voters, Obama voters... They're all the same. It's up to the candidate to win them over

The con was Hillary, Trumps mouth spilled everything he was thinking as soon as he thought it. Hillary focus-group polled everything she said, carefully crafted every lie. Wikileaks revealed that she still opposes gay marriage, for example

She conned the gays though, some of them. The dumber ones

Again, as an example. The same is true for every special interest group she conned





Kirata -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/21/2017 1:49:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

As far as I can tell, the way this whole lefty paranoia with the Russians started is when journalists began to ask the DNC and Podesta about the content of some of their emails and the response was always "The emails were hacked by the Russians." Which didn't answer any questions but it sure provided lefty kool aid drinkers the distraction they needed to not think about the crook they wanted to elect. Now, we're still dealing with that distraction and the lefties have all forgotten about how it started. They all actually believe the kool aid inspired propaganda now. In order to do so the cast of characters had to change.

Interestingly, or choose your own adjective, the FBI never had access to the affected servers. They offered to provide forensic assistance, but the DNC refused and instead hired a private firm, of their own choosing, and "the Russians" conclusion followed. For me, that doesn't pass the smell test.

K.




Kirata -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/21/2017 1:54:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Yeah, let's compare a fruitless 1983 meeting between a dead guy who never even ran for president and proven interference that led to the election of the piece of shit currently sitting in the White House.

You're making shit up again.

K.




heavyblinker -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/21/2017 2:01:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata
You're making shit up again.


http://uproxx.com/technology/fbi-russian-election-hacking-report/
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/fbi-backs-view-that-russia-interfered-in-u-s-election-with-intent-of-helping-donald-trump
http://www.npr.org/2016/12/16/505892960/fbi-agrees-with-cia-on-russian-interference-in-presidential-election

All spy agencies concluded it occurred and Russia was to blame.
The only point of contention used to be the intent, which is now also agreed upon.

You're a fucking cunt, Kirata.




BoscoX -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/21/2017 2:27:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

As far as I can tell, the way this whole lefty paranoia with the Russians started is when journalists began to ask the DNC and Podesta about the content of some of their emails and the response was always "The emails were hacked by the Russians." Which didn't answer any questions but it sure provided lefty kool aid drinkers the distraction they needed to not think about the crook they wanted to elect. Now, we're still dealing with that distraction and the lefties have all forgotten about how it started. They all actually believe the kool aid inspired propaganda now. In order to do so the cast of characters had to change.

Interestingly, or choose your own adjective, the FBI never had access to the affected servers. They offered to provide forensic assistance, but the DNC refused and instead hired a private firm, of their own choosing, and "the Russians" conclusion followed. For me, that doesn't pass the smell test.

K.



Wow, yeah - first time I've seen anyone point that out, connect those dots. Kinda puts a new perspective on the infamous tarmac meeting, doesn't it





BoscoX -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/21/2017 2:29:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata
You're making shit up again.


http://uproxx.com/technology/fbi-russian-election-hacking-report/
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/fbi-backs-view-that-russia-interfered-in-u-s-election-with-intent-of-helping-donald-trump
http://www.npr.org/2016/12/16/505892960/fbi-agrees-with-cia-on-russian-interference-in-presidential-election

All spy agencies concluded it occurred and Russia was to blame.
The only point of contention used to be the intent, which is now also agreed upon.

You're a fucking cunt, Kirata.


Podesta gave his password away to the first Internet troll who requested it. Podesta was to blame for giving away access to the emails, and Hillary & Co are to blame for the many very serious scandals revealed as a direct result




Kirata -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/21/2017 3:22:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
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ORIGINAL: Kirata

You're making shit up again.

http://uproxx.com/technology/fbi-russian-election-hacking-report/
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/fbi-backs-view-that-russia-interfered-in-u-s-election-with-intent-of-helping-donald-trump
http://www.npr.org/2016/12/16/505892960/fbi-agrees-with-cia-on-russian-interference-in-presidential-election

All spy agencies concluded it occurred and Russia was to blame.
The only point of contention used to be the intent, which is now also agreed upon.

You're a fucking cunt, Kirata.

That's a nice walk-back to "concluded," but you trimmed the quote to hide the claim I was actually objecting to:

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ORIGINAL: Kirata
quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Yeah, let's compare a fruitless 1983 meeting between a dead guy who never even ran for president and proven interference that led to the election of the piece of shit currently sitting in the White House.

You're making shit up again.

See why I say you're a pathological liar? Good. Then let's move along...

The FBI and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) on Thursday released a joint report detailing how federal investigators linked the Russian government to hacks of Democratic Party organizations . . . But security experts say that the document provides little in the way of forensic "proof" to confirm the government's attribution.

"The DHS statement is a restatement of already known public information, a series of technical indicators that are intended for use by cybersecurity professionals in finding and remediating APT28 malware on private sector networks, and some generic advice for companies as to how to improve their network security," said Matt Tait, founder of the U.K.-based security consultancy Capital Alpha Security . . . "That this document doesn't engage with the question of attribution seems, to me, to be quite deliberate," Tait noted.


Source: The Hill

We should also bear in mind that private security firm CrowdStrike’s frequently cited findings of Russian responsibility were essentially paid for by the DNC, which contracted its services in June . . . [and] consider the fact that CrowdStrike describes APT 28 and 29 like this:
    Their tradecraft is superb, operational security second to none and the extensive usage of “living-off-the-land” techniques enables them to easily bypass many security solutions they encounter.
Compare that description to CrowdStrike’s claim it was able to finger APT 28 and 29, described above as digital spies par excellence, because they were so incredibly sloppy.


Source: The Intercept

There's nothing in "the Russians" claim that passes the smell test, and no actual proof has ever been presented.

K.




heavyblinker -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/22/2017 12:51:05 AM)

So you're going to go with 'the IC came to these conclusions based on everything that has been published in the media'?
LOL.

I'm sure it's all a massive plot by the FBI/CIA/IC to take over the government... sort of like how climate change is a massive plot to bankrupt hardworking Americans.




Lucylastic -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/22/2017 1:17:40 AM)

not to mention the NSA and all the other alphabet intelligence.
Its merely a ploy to take away from trumps lies, his own words and his own idiocy in not having a filter on twitter, at his rallies and his tv appearances.Everybody has hated comey at some point, mostly out of information from the left and the right in the media...
Media sources have used "unofficial" or "unnamed sources" as news for decades. Left, right and everyone.
Repubs or dems.
Like assange and snowden, they are heroes, or scumbags, depending on the day.
We have "proof" that trump is a liar.
His own words. But supersecret lying by the left is the only answer to justify the scum bags other lies, slander and bullshit.




heavyblinker -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/22/2017 4:35:52 AM)

Also, you know for sure that Crowdstrike doctored the data it sent to the FBI, because they aren't just being paid to investigate the hack, they're being paid to put their reputation on the line and risk being prosecuted for nearly starting a war with Russia. How much did they get for that? It must have been a lot, considering the risks involved. I'm guessing you know how much they received since you are sure it happened and everything.

EXCEPT:

http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/5/14178806/fbi-dnc-hack-server-examined-forensics-russia

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It’s common for the initial forensic analysis to be conducted by outside firms like CrowdStrike, and once that data has been copied, there’s often little need to copy it again. BuzzFeed described the FBI’s lack of interest in the DNC’s server as unusual, citing a number of response firms that preferred not to be named. But that’s not a unanimous opinion, and two experts contacted by The Verge disagreed that it was unusual.

“This is normal practice,” says Matt Tait, founder and CEO of Capital Alpha Security. “In cases like this, the onus for digital forensics is on the third-party contracted by the company that's calling in the incident response team, in this case CrowdStrike.”


Why are you such a pathological liar, Kirata?

It could be that the DNC didn't want to share their server access with the bureau led by the guy who practically singlehandedly destroyed Hillary's chances of becoming president.

Regardless, I'm pretty confident that the FBI agents know how to do their jobs better than you do, Kirata... your delusions of grandeur are just that-- delusions.

Get help.




WhoreMods -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/22/2017 4:47:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

not to mention the NSA and all the other alphabet intelligence.
Its merely a ploy to take away from trumps lies, his own words and his own idiocy in not having a filter on twitter, at his rallies and his tv appearances.Everybody has hated comey at some point, mostly out of information from the left and the right in the media...
Media sources have used "unofficial" or "unnamed sources" as news for decades. Left, right and everyone.
Repubs or dems.
Like assange and snowden, they are heroes, or scumbags, depending on the day.
We have "proof" that trump is a liar.
His own words. But supersecret lying by the left is the only answer to justify the scum bags other lies, slander and bullshit.

If I was el presidente, I'd be a lot more worried about the secret service than the NSA, the FBI or any of the rest of the alphabet soup: I really can't imagine any of them taking a bullet to save that sorry piece of shit, can you?




Milesnmiles -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/22/2017 4:59:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Well we do know that the Russians have been doing this at least since Ted Kwnnedy asked them to help defeat Ronald Reagan in the '80's.

http://dailysignal.com/2016/12/14/ted-kennedy-made-secret-overtures-to-russia-to-prevent-ronald-reagans-re-election/

So I wonder why all of the lefties are having a hissy fit now? Because it's a kool aid distraction from the crook's campaign that is encountering a lingering death.


Yeah, let's compare a fruitless 1983 meeting between a dead guy who never even ran for president and proven interference that led to the election of the piece of shit currently sitting in the White House.

You want me to say this Kennedy fiasco was a shitty thing? It was a shitty thing. It was terrible. He should be dragged out of his grave and put on trial immediately. His family members should be interrogated. I don't know if it's real or not, and I don't think anyone is investigating it (unlike the Trump thing), but wow is it ever bad.

Okay, so now let's focus on the present and the fact that the Russians helped Trump win the election.
Oh wait, you can't-- because you are incapable of looking at the situation objectively.
The problem is that instead of looking objectively at the situation at hand, they want to do or say anything, even going to the point of digging up ancient history and distorting it, just to have something to try and distract from the situation at hand.




heavyblinker -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/22/2017 5:31:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles
The problem is that instead of looking objectively at the situation at hand, they want to do or say anything, even going to the point of digging up ancient history and distorting it, just to have something to try and distract from the situation at hand.


I don't know if the point is that we're hypocrites unless we get really mad about this thing that happened in 1983 or if the point is to normalize Trump's Russia scandal... but it fails on both counts. And then there's the OP-- so everyone has to either love or hate Comey, you're not allowed to support some things he does while condemning others? Does this make sense to anyone?

Oh, and then of course there's some sort of shady conspiracy to frame poor innocent Russia, and it apparently involves a corrupt Internet Security Firm... with 17 Intelligence Agencies and the FBI blindly, recklessly going forward using data that was probably manipulated at the DNC's request. This is probably because after investigating Hillary and ruining her chances of being elected (which is perfectly okay), the FBI now wants to take down Trump (despite the fact that he has done nothing wrong)... maybe they want to seize power for themselves? Does Comey want to seize power in a coup?

OMG this is YUGE!




Milesnmiles -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/22/2017 11:28:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles
The problem is that instead of looking objectively at the situation at hand, they want to do or say anything, even going to the point of digging up ancient history and distorting it, just to have something to try and distract from the situation at hand.


I don't know if the point is that we're hypocrites unless we get really mad about this thing that happened in 1983 or if the point is to normalize Trump's Russia scandal... but it fails on both counts. And then there's the OP-- so everyone has to either love or hate Comey, you're not allowed to support some things he does while condemning others? Does this make sense to anyone?

Oh, and then of course there's some sort of shady conspiracy to frame poor innocent Russia, and it apparently involves a corrupt Internet Security Firm... with 17 Intelligence Agencies and the FBI blindly, recklessly going forward using data that was probably manipulated at the DNC's request. This is probably because after investigating Hillary and ruining her chances of being elected (which is perfectly okay), the FBI now wants to take down Trump (despite the fact that he has done nothing wrong)... maybe they want to seize power for themselves? Does Comey want to seize power in a coup?

OMG this is YUGE!
Just because people have robbed banks in the past doesn't make it okay for me to rob a bank now. Saying look at all the banks that have been robbed in the past this is just one more, is not going the fly.

So in reality each situation has to be looked at on its own merits.

First let’s look at Comey and the effects he had on the election. Yes, I think what he did had an effect on the election but what he did he did because he had to. The Republicans kept making a mountain out of a mole hill with the emails and forced any and all details, no matter how small and insignificant to be made public and made a big deal of.

Interestingly Hilary’s “lawlessness”; Bengasi and the emails have become a nonissue after the election because they were always more or less a nonissue.

But now we need to put those things behind us because we have things we need to examine that are more of an issue (crime).

First let’s look at Trump’s allocation that Obama committed a felony by wiretapping him during the election. If that is without basis, that in of itself is a crime and so Trump either needs to quickly provide proof or admit he was wrong and apologize.

Next let’s look at the possible “big crime”, collusion with the Russians to rig the elections. If true and Trump had a hand in it he needs to be impeached and go to jail for a looooong time and I would like to see a new election but probably what would happen is Pence would probably become president in his place.
;-)




Nnanji -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/22/2017 11:34:18 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Well we do know that the Russians have been doing this at least since Ted Kwnnedy asked them to help defeat Ronald Reagan in the '80's.

http://dailysignal.com/2016/12/14/ted-kennedy-made-secret-overtures-to-russia-to-prevent-ronald-reagans-re-election/

So I wonder why all of the lefties are having a hissy fit now? Because it's a kool aid distraction from the crook's campaign that is encountering a lingering death.


Yeah, let's compare a fruitless 1983 meeting between a dead guy who never even ran for president and proven interference that led to the election of the piece of shit currently sitting in the White House.

You want me to say this Kennedy fiasco was a shitty thing? It was a shitty thing. It was terrible. He should be dragged out of his grave and put on trial immediately. His family members should be interrogated. I don't know if it's real or not, and I don't think anyone is investigating it (unlike the Trump thing), but wow is it ever bad.

Okay, so now let's focus on the present and the fact that the Russians helped Trump win the election.
Oh wait, you can't-- because you are incapable of looking at the situation objectively.

Projecting your miserable life really won't help you in a discussion. Sad for you....nah, not really.




Nnanji -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/22/2017 11:40:24 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

not to mention the NSA and all the other alphabet intelligence.
Its merely a ploy to take away from trumps lies, his own words and his own idiocy in not having a filter on twitter, at his rallies and his tv appearances.Everybody has hated comey at some point, mostly out of information from the left and the right in the media...
Media sources have used "unofficial" or "unnamed sources" as news for decades. Left, right and everyone.
Repubs or dems.
Like assange and snowden, they are heroes, or scumbags, depending on the day.
We have "proof" that trump is a liar.
His own words. But supersecret lying by the left is the only answer to justify the scum bags other lies, slander and bullshit.

If I didn't know better I'd say you were the expert on "ploys" and your comments might be worth considering. But I do know better.




Lucylastic -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/22/2017 11:41:31 AM)

you know nothing

and you arent jon snow




Nnanji -> RE: Remember When Hillary Lovers Blamed Comey (3/22/2017 11:44:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Well we do know that the Russians have been doing this at least since Ted Kwnnedy asked them to help defeat Ronald Reagan in the '80's.

http://dailysignal.com/2016/12/14/ted-kennedy-made-secret-overtures-to-russia-to-prevent-ronald-reagans-re-election/

So I wonder why all of the lefties are having a hissy fit now? Because it's a kool aid distraction from the crook's campaign that is encountering a lingering death.


Yeah, let's compare a fruitless 1983 meeting between a dead guy who never even ran for president and proven interference that led to the election of the piece of shit currently sitting in the White House.

You want me to say this Kennedy fiasco was a shitty thing? It was a shitty thing. It was terrible. He should be dragged out of his grave and put on trial immediately. His family members should be interrogated. I don't know if it's real or not, and I don't think anyone is investigating it (unlike the Trump thing), but wow is it ever bad.

Okay, so now let's focus on the present and the fact that the Russians helped Trump win the election.
Oh wait, you can't-- because you are incapable of looking at the situation objectively.
The problem is that instead of looking objectively at the situation at hand, they want to do or say anything, even going to the point of digging up ancient history and distorting it, just to have something to try and distract from the situation at hand.


Distract...no. We actually like you guys to say the stupid kool aid driven things you do. It's funny as hell. You'd realize it as well if you had just a little larger circle jerk of friends. In that case you may get at least one dissenting opinion that wasn't hatched in the DNC's back office.




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