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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 12:26:33 PM

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BTW: was Nicola Sturgeon elected? I thought she just took over as first minister when Alex Salmond resigned the post in a tantrum over Scotland voting against the referendum to leave the UK in 2014.

Good catch WM!!

According to the Scottish Government website: The First Minister is a member of the Scottish Parliament (MSP) and is appointed by royal warrant from the Monarch following a vote by MSPs to nominate the individual.

Since devolution in 1999, the leader of the political party with the largest number of MSPs elected to the Parliament (Holyrood) has been appointed First Minister.

Having been endorsed by parliament and received the royal warrant, the First Minister must take the oath of office (be ‘sworn in’) at the Court of Session in Edinburgh in front of the Lord President and other senior judges.

So.... no different to PM May's appointment then.
But still 'elected'.... by MSP's if not the general public.

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 12:29:56 PM

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And that is the true reason why the election was called, and I jest no-one not a singular jot, and look at them all - still pathetically perplexed and bewildered by their own stupidity.

Your typical English jackal (which is just about all of those useless dim fukers), or feeble of brain impairment, and all round clueless cunts, crawling about in their own filth trying to lob their own incoherence mess back unto my supremeness as a coherent argument – the fukers, all of them, should be put should be flushed down the lavy pan for the good of humanity itself.

And whom amongst us would not disagree?

And that dear readers was why the UK election was called

strange why was I thinking about naked lunch today?

The 2016 Scottish Parliament election was held on Thursday 5 May 2016[1] to elect 129 members to the Scottish Parliament. It was the fifth general election since the parliament was established in 1999. It was the first parliamentary election in Scotland in which 16 and 17 year olds were able to vote, under the provisions of the Scottish Elections (Reduction of Voting Age) Act.[2][3] It was also the first time the three main parties were led by women.

The United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, also known as the EU referendum and the Brexit referendum, took place on 23 June 2016 in the United Kingdom (UK) and Gibraltar to gauge support for the country either remaining a member of, or leaving, the European Union (EU). The referendum resulted in 51.9% of voters voting in favour of leaving the EU

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 12:37:31 PM

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Like any of you fukwits could catch me. I, a handsome olde loon, with too many cats, have to embed a potato masher into my skull, and a quantum spork to even be on these forums

So now we have laid facts bare again why is this election occurring

But anyway now we know why the mad corrupt jackal called an election

The real reason ;) but almost all of you are simply too dumbfuk to realise it. Now I asked this question more than once across multiple threads and not one of you hmmm

A Criminal Investigation is the Real Reason Theresa May Called the General Election The election isn�t meant to solidify Brexit�it�s meant to keep May in power

Listening to Theresa May speak outside Downing Street on April 18, the public could be forgiven for believing that the reason for the general election was to bring clarity to the Brexit negotiations. The timing of May’s u-turn on going to the voters tells a different story: It’s coming as the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) prepares to announce the prosecution of 30 senior Tories for electoral fraud.

If found guilty, this group of MPs and their staff face prison time. Worse yet, the prosecutions would force by-elections across the country, and losing their seats would cost May her 17-seat majority in the House of Commons—spelling the end of May’s tenure as prime minister.

By holding a general election, the risk of by-elections disappears, bringing some stability to the government. But it does not resolve the problem of the prosecutions themselves, which the CPS says it will make an announcement on in late May or early June.
In all likelihood, there will be MPs standing for re-election on June 8 who are also facing jail.

The problems come because the Conservatives failed to properly declare the spending on their 2015 Battlebus. Trained activists were bussed into marginal seats and, using sophisticated software, they were able to pinpoint the small number of voters who would decide the election.

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 12:46:19 PM

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Elections watchdog seeks more time for Tory probe

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 12:52:10 PM

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Q&A: Conservative election expenses row

Conservative Party fined �70,000 over election expenses

Snap election helps Tories over 2015 expenses affair

Fuking morons and you wonder why I hate the "english" and, well all fuking morons.

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 1:17:28 PM

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do you understand yet?

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 1:29:44 PM

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look at you dumb fuk lurkers

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 1:43:49 PM

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Q&A: Conservative election expenses row

Conservative Party fined �70,000 over election expenses

Snap election helps Tories over 2015 expenses affair

Fuking morons and you wonder why I hate the "english" and, well all fuking morons.

And...
You make it sound like it was only the conservatives that cheated.

Got news for you -

Calls to investigate South Thanet UKIP election costs

Ukip failed to declare election expenses in seat lost by Nigel Farage

Electoral Commission opens investigation into Ukip campaign spending

Labour fined £20,000 for undeclared election spending including for Ed Stone

Electoral Commission concludes investigation into Labour Party's 2015 General Election spending

Lib Dems fined £20,000 for undeclared election spending

Cops probe Lib Dem chief executive Tim Gordon following £20,000 fine for undeclared election spending

Labour call for probe over SNP MPs' travel expenses

Demand for probe into SNP MPs' expenses

Nationalist MP's are in a 'league of shame' claim Scottish Labour

SNP MP Faces Probe Over £88,000 Taxpayers' Cash Paid to Her Company

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 1:44:05 PM

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Sorry WD, I completely disagree with you.

She WAS elected. Fact. Deal with it.

Well, she was elected as an MP. She wasn't elected to her position as Prime Minister by the country - that's the key point. When people vote in general elections, the leader of the relevant party is crucial to the way they vote. People will, to a very large extent, be voting for Corbyn or May at this election. May hasn't gone through that trial of fire to be PM yet.

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Yes, she called it to get a better majority in parliament.
Of course, that keeps her in power. Deal with it.

That, of course, is only May's justification for calling a general election - and politicans do tell porkies, as we all know. Other main contenders as reasons why she's called the election are first, that Brexit is simply a bad idea and things are going to turn to crap ... so, it's best to have a general election now, while the Government doesn't look too pisspoor and while it's doing well against Labour. Another reason is that the majority the Government currently has could be wiped out by the number of Tory MPs who'll end up in jail, or kicked out of the Commons, or both, because of electoral fraud. This isn't scaremongering - there's plenty of evidence now for there to be more than a suspicion that fraud's been going on. From what I've been reading the numbers of MPs being looked at by Scotland Yard range from 17 to 30. It's not looking good for a somewhat slimey government at present.

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 1:47:56 PM

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That is why the election was called and i scattered it about the last week and yet not one of you, or anyone

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 1:50:57 PM

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If we don't want free movement of people (and we don't)

Who is this 'we', FD?

Only 52% of the electorate who voted in the referendum, voted for for Brexit. Of that 52%, a sizeable proportion (figures vary) claim that sovereignty was the key issue for them, not that of free movement of people. I can't help thinking that yours is just a somewhat more moderate version of the assumption taken by e.g. the British National Party - that the Brexit vote vindicates your anti-immigrant views.

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 1:51:16 PM

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I agree Peon.

But by the same token, fishface wasn't 'elected' by the people either.
But they were both elected by their own party; so they were indeed 'elected'.

As for the CPS looking at election fraud, it wasn't just the conservatives.
It seems that most of the parties were cheating (see my previous post).

For WD to poke fun at only the conservatives for being 'un-elected' and being investigated is disingenuous and very biased at best.
In many senses, he sounds almost as bad as Bosco in his own way.
I'm just high-lighting his errors and bias.

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 1:58:12 PM

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If we don't want free movement of people (and we don't)

Who is this 'we', FD?

Only 52% of the electorate who voted in the referendum, voted for for Brexit. Of that 52%, a sizeable proportion (figures vary) claim that sovereignty was the key issue for them, not that of free movement of people. I can't help thinking that yours is just a somewhat more moderate version of the assumption taken by e.g. the British National Party - that the Brexit vote vindicates your anti-immigrant views.

The vote to leave was fought on essentially an immigration platform.
It wasn't the only thing, obviously, but that was the main theme throughout the campaign.
Many things hit headline news (mainly courtesy of UKIP) about immigration and wanting control of our borders.
And one of the main criticisms of the failings of the conservatives was that they missed their immigration target by miles.

The leave vote was still the greater of the two - so we won.
There are many reasons why people voted to leave or to stay.
52% is still a winner and more than half of all those who voted.
Like it or not, that's how democracy works.

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 1:58:34 PM

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But they were both elected by their own party; so they were indeed 'elected'.

They reached their respective positions by a combination of election and selection, as I said, FD. The important thing is that the country didn't elect May. A party leader who hasn't been elected by the country is one thing; a prime minister who hasn't been elected by the country is something much more important. She'll probably get that this time though, of course.

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As for the CPS looking at election fraud, it wasn't just the conservatives.
It seems that most of the parties were cheating (see my previous post).

Yes, but only the Tories have a government that could collapse as a result of *their* fraud. Hence, arguably, the upcoming general election.

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 2:03:12 PM

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This has nothing to do with fish face or you lying English jackal cunts

why was an election called

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 2:04:20 PM

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But they were both elected by their own party; so they were indeed 'elected'.

They reached their respective positions by a combination of election and selection, as I said, FD. The important thing is that the country didn't elect May. A party leader who hasn't been elected by the country is one thing; a prime minister who hasn't been elected by the country is something much more important. She'll probably get that this time though, of course.

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As for the CPS looking at election fraud, it wasn't just the conservatives.
It seems that most of the parties were cheating (see my previous post).

Yes, but only the Tories have a government that could collapse as a result of *their* fraud. Hence, arguably, the upcoming general election.

I don't agree that it would 'colapse' at all.
If an MP is prosecuted, they'll just be asked to stand down and they'll have a by-election.
Given the current position, it would seem a conservative is likely to win the seat.
And there are many other non-conservative MP's who also face closer legal scrutiny too.
Chances are, a conservative MP will take their plce as a result.

BTW: I'm not anti-immigration, I'm anti-multiculturalism.

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 2:06:23 PM

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This has nothing to do with fish face or you lying English jackal cunts

why was an election called

To get a better position in parliament you loon.

It was fish-face who thinks it was called because of the pending legal action.
So yes, it has EVERYTHING to do with fish-face.

ETA: the prosecutions won't stop because of an election.
Ergo: it's a red herring.

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 2:07:40 PM

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The real reason ;) but almost all of you are simply too dumbfuk to realise it. Now I asked this question more than once across multiple threads and not one of you hmmm

A Criminal Investigation is the Real Reason Theresa May Called the General Election The election isn�t meant to solidify Brexit�it�s meant to keep May in power

Listening to Theresa May speak outside Downing Street on April 18, the public could be forgiven for believing that the reason for the general election was to bring clarity to the Brexit negotiations. The timing of May’s u-turn on going to the voters tells a different story: It’s coming as the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) prepares to announce the prosecution of 30 senior Tories for electoral fraud.

If found guilty, this group of MPs and their staff face prison time. Worse yet, the prosecutions would force by-elections across the country, and losing their seats would cost May her 17-seat majority in the House of Commons—spelling the end of May’s tenure as prime minister.

By holding a general election, the risk of by-elections disappears, bringing some stability to the government. But it does not resolve the problem of the prosecutions themselves, which the CPS says it will make an announcement on in late May or early June.
In all likelihood, there will be MPs standing for re-election on June 8 who are also facing jail.

The problems come because the Conservatives failed to properly declare the spending on their 2015 Battlebus. Trained activists were bussed into marginal seats and, using sophisticated software, they were able to pinpoint the small number of voters who would decide the election.

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 2:08:07 PM

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The vote to leave was fought on essentially an immigration platform.

No, it wasn't. It was fought on a) immigration and b) sovereignty. A large number did not cite immigration as the main reason why they voted Brexit and have no qualms about free movement.

You do not have the backing for your statement that 'we' do not want free movement. I think you've got to accept the democratic position on that.

(Also, you've got accept the practical position - which is that little is going to change re immigration, anyway - as everyone at the helm of the Brexit machinations now agree. Brexit could never have achieved an end to immigration, still less a mass repatriation of immigrants.)

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RE: Theresa May warns voters of 'coalition of chaos' - 4/27/2017 2:13:58 PM

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The vote to leave was fought on essentially an immigration platform.

No, it wasn't. It was fought on a) immigration and b) sovereignty. A large number did not cite immigration as the main reason why they voted Brexit and have no qualms about free movement.

You do not have the backing for your statement that 'we' do not want free movement. I think you've got to accept the democratic position on that.

(Also, you've got accept the practical position - which is that little is going to change re immigration, anyway - as everyone at the helm of the Brexit machinations now agree. Brexit could never have achieved an end to immigration, still less a mass repatriation of immigrants.)

From The Guardian: Polling suggests discontent with the scale of migration to the UK has been the biggest factor pushing Britons to vote out, with the contest turning into a referendum on whether people are happy to accept free movement in return for free trade.

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