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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 8:53:15 AM   
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do you mean nastis, white supremacists and bigoted pigs are learning this from BLM or "antifa"?

No, she means that if she can manage to contrive a similarity between the two then she can accuse anybody who criticises the display of fuckwittery in Virginia of hypocrisy, and so turn the thread into an argument based around personal attacks rather than a discussion of the issues involved. Basic troll rhetorics, Lucy: what passes for sophistry among these people.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 8:58:26 AM   
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1925 was nearly 100 years ago VMl.


The incident with the klan was last night. Wow a hundred years and not much has changed except the robes are polyester wash and wear and not the old fashioned kind that you have to iron.


The incident that VML was referencing was in 1925. my reference was to his incident.


My reference was to the fact that not much has changed. bigots are still trying to force heir shit on society.


And why does that appear to surprise you? It is a human condition and always will be.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 8:59:48 AM   
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do you mean nastis, white supremacists and bigoted pigs are learning this from BLM or "antifa"?

No, she means that if she can manage to contrive a similarity between the two then she can accuse anybody who criticises the display of fuckwittery in Virginia of hypocrisy, and so turn the thread into an argument based around personal attacks rather than a discussion of the issues involved. Basic troll rhetorics, Lucy: what passes for sophistry among these people.

Or, mind reading and projecting are actual basic troll tactics.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 9:02:16 AM   
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do you mean nastis, white supremacists and bigoted pigs are learning this from BLM or "antifa"?

No, she means that if she can manage to contrive a similarity between the two then she can accuse anybody who criticises the display of fuckwittery in Virginia of hypocrisy, and so turn the thread into an argument based around personal attacks rather than a discussion of the issues involved. Basic troll rhetorics, Lucy: what passes for sophistry among these people.

Or, mind reading and projecting are actual basic troll tactics.

That isn't a denial, dear.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 9:09:01 AM   
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do you mean nastis, white supremacists and bigoted pigs are learning this from BLM or "antifa"?

No, she means that if she can manage to contrive a similarity between the two then she can accuse anybody who criticises the display of fuckwittery in Virginia of hypocrisy, and so turn the thread into an argument based around personal attacks rather than a discussion of the issues involved. Basic troll rhetorics, Lucy: what passes for sophistry among these people.

Or, mind reading and projecting are actual basic troll tactics.

That isn't a denial, dear.



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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 9:12:04 AM   
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Will this be the disgruntled dems' fault, then?

It was Hillary. or maybe...it was Obama.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 9:26:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

do you mean nastis, white supremacists and bigoted pigs are learning this from BLM or "antifa"?

No, she means that if she can manage to contrive a similarity between the two then she can accuse anybody who criticises the display of fuckwittery in Virginia of hypocrisy, and so turn the thread into an argument based around personal attacks rather than a discussion of the issues involved. Basic troll rhetorics, Lucy: what passes for sophistry among these people.

Or, mind reading and projecting are actual basic troll tactics.

That isn't a denial, dear.

Why would I need to feed a troll? Are you that self important that you believe you are important to me? Are you that intent on derailing a discussion that until you and Lucy came along was actually discussing?

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 9:30:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

do you mean nastis, white supremacists and bigoted pigs are learning this from BLM or "antifa"?

No, she means that if she can manage to contrive a similarity between the two then she can accuse anybody who criticises the display of fuckwittery in Virginia of hypocrisy, and so turn the thread into an argument based around personal attacks rather than a discussion of the issues involved. Basic troll rhetorics, Lucy: what passes for sophistry among these people.

Or, mind reading and projecting are actual basic troll tactics.

That isn't a denial, dear.



Posting History matters.

Lol, yes and your posting history is cut and paste others with no thoughts of your own, so when you try to appear as if you are actually conversing it's obvious you're fishing to troll. You'll notice I always ignore you when you do that. You're just like a child and obvious when you do it. You think you're so sneaky, but that's about the extent of your actual ability to think.

Now, perhaps you can let the big people get back to the discussion. Toward that, I'll just ignore you and whore. You can project anything you'd like into that.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 9:38:55 AM   
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White nationalists are white people who believe that their country should remain majority white.
The Nazis in Germany during WWII were white nationalists with their belief in the "Chosen Race."
Many countries today have groups of white nationalists. I firmly believe that the Brexit vote was based in white nationalism.


Hmmm... do you think there may be a good portion that just don't want their heritage destroyed... Right or wrong these statues represent their ancestors. They understand it was a different time with different social norms. You or I born into that society would have been just as prejudiced by today's standards... We would not have known any better. These people may very well not even be prejudiced or care about white majority rule. My family came to Missouri from S Carolina and the majority of my male ancestors fought for the south...and many did not own slaves... I can see being upset if my heritage was being destroyed.

Butch

The reason and judgment of modern mankind informs that we do not need to be slave to a 'tradition' 'culture' or 'heritage.' We take from and learn but one is not required to honor the past's violence and butchery.

Events such as these tell us there is a long way to go to leave the 'signs' of oppression and the southern culture and tradition and heritage of racism and the 100 year subjugation of blacks...removed. Removed not just from public sight but from the memories of those who once did celebrate such racism and slavery.

Why however though do we pay such respect for our constitutional right of freedom of speech but don't hold the same reverence for our equally constitutionally protected right to assemble ?

There are NO 'illegal' assemblies. For those who become violent, their actions become illegal...not the assembly.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 9:43:01 AM   
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Read my rebuttal to Vince Mr. Rodgers and you will get a better idea of my views. It's post 75 I believe.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 9:51:45 AM   
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White nationalists are white people who believe that their country should remain majority white.
The Nazis in Germany during WWII were white nationalists with their belief in the "Chosen Race."
Many countries today have groups of white nationalists. I firmly believe that the Brexit vote was based in white nationalism.


Hmmm... do you think there may be a good portion that just don't want their heritage destroyed... Right or wrong these statues represent their ancestors. They understand it was a different time with different social norms. You or I born into that society would have been just as prejudiced by today's standards... We would not have known any better. These people may very well not even be prejudiced or care about white majority rule. My family came to Missouri from S Carolina and the majority of my male ancestors fought for the south...and many did not own slaves... I can see being upset if my heritage was being destroyed.

Butch

The reason and judgment of modern mankind informs that we do not need to be slave to a 'tradition' 'culture' or 'heritage.' We take from and learn but one is not required to honor the past's violence and butchery.

Events such as these tell us there is a long way to go to leave the 'signs' of oppression and the southern culture and tradition and heritage of racism and the 100 year subjugation of blacks...removed. Removed not just from public sight but from the memories of those who once did celebrate such racism and slavery.

Why however though do we pay such respect for our constitutional right of freedom of speech but don't hold the same reverence for our equally constitutionally protected right to assemble ?

There are NO 'illegal' assemblies. For those who become violent, their actions become illegal...not the assembly.

Where can I find this "reason and judgement of modern mankind"? As with all of your tin foil hat theories, you don't have a foundation under any of your postulates. For instance, by your arguments, black people today shouldn't have any problems with prior slavery or racism issues because the reason and judgement of modern mankind tells us they don't have to be slaves to tradition, culture or heritage. So, good, according to you its all fixed now.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 10:09:05 AM   
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White nationalists are white people who believe that their country should remain majority white.
The Nazis in Germany during WWII were white nationalists with their belief in the "Chosen Race."
Many countries today have groups of white nationalists. I firmly believe that the Brexit vote was based in white nationalism.


Hmmm... do you think there may be a good portion that just don't want their heritage destroyed... Right or wrong these statues represent their ancestors. They understand it was a different time with different social norms. You or I born into that society would have been just as prejudiced by today's standards... We would not have known any better. These people may very well not even be prejudiced or care about white majority rule. My family came to Missouri from S Carolina and the majority of my male ancestors fought for the south...and many did not own slaves... I can see being upset if my heritage was being destroyed.

Butch

The reason and judgment of modern mankind informs that we do not need to be slave to a 'tradition' 'culture' or 'heritage.' We take from and learn but one is not required to honor the past's violence and butchery.

Events such as these tell us there is a long way to go to leave the 'signs' of oppression and the southern culture and tradition and heritage of racism and the 100 year subjugation of blacks...removed. Removed not just from public sight but from the memories of those who once did celebrate such racism and slavery.

Why however though do we pay such respect for our constitutional right of freedom of speech but don't hold the same reverence for our equally constitutionally protected right to assemble ?

There are NO 'illegal' assemblies. For those who become violent, their actions become illegal...not the assembly.

Where can I find this "reason and judgement of modern mankind"? As with all of your tin foil hat theories, you don't have a foundation under any of your postulates. For instance, by your arguments, black people today shouldn't have any problems with prior slavery or racism issues because the reason and judgement of modern mankind tells us they don't have to be slaves to tradition, culture or heritage. So, good, according to you its all fixed now.

The legal part for the most part has been fixed with the exception of the obvious attempts at gerrymandering, voter restrictions and job discrimination. Haven't the slightest idea why you now go on about 'tin foil hat' theories whatever they are.

However no, it's not 'all fixed' now and quite the contrary. Because for example not just the confederate flag which to me, could just as well be a Nazi flag, representing the flag of a country for traitors who revolted against this country.

Then there are the statues and my presumed honor of a man who resigned his officer's commission in the US Army to go join another army to fight his former country, the ultimate in traitorous action. The US would have been equally justified in hanging Lee as it was in hanging John Brown.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 10:15:54 AM   
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1925 was nearly 100 years ago VMl.


The incident with the klan was last night. Wow a hundred years and not much has changed except the robes are polyester wash and wear and not the old fashioned kind that you have to iron.


The incident that VML was referencing was in 1925. my reference was to his incident.


My reference was to the fact that not much has changed. Bigots are still trying to force their shit on society.


And why does that appear to surprise you?


Only you think it appears to surprise me.

It is a human condition and always will be.

No it is the condition of punkassmotherphoquers who think that skin color has some significance to humanity.


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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 10:47:23 AM   
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1925 was nearly 100 years ago VMl.


The incident with the klan was last night. Wow a hundred years and not much has changed except the robes are polyester wash and wear and not the old fashioned kind that you have to iron.


The incident that VML was referencing was in 1925. my reference was to his incident.


My reference was to the fact that not much has changed. Bigots are still trying to force their shit on society.


And why does that appear to surprise you?


Only you think it appears to surprise me.

It is a human condition and always will be.

No it is the condition of punkassmotherphoquers who think that skin color has some significance to humanity.



Yes, and if it wasn't skin color it would be something else or grunts wouldn't use p's for target practice as you say. It's a human condition.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 10:52:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MakeM3Urs

White nationalists are white people who believe that their country should remain majority white.
The Nazis in Germany during WWII were white nationalists with their belief in the "Chosen Race."
Many countries today have groups of white nationalists. I firmly believe that the Brexit vote was based in white nationalism.


Hmmm... do you think there may be a good portion that just don't want their heritage destroyed... Right or wrong these statues represent their ancestors. They understand it was a different time with different social norms. You or I born into that society would have been just as prejudiced by today's standards... We would not have known any better. These people may very well not even be prejudiced or care about white majority rule. My family came to Missouri from S Carolina and the majority of my male ancestors fought for the south...and many did not own slaves... I can see being upset if my heritage was being destroyed.

Butch

The reason and judgment of modern mankind informs that we do not need to be slave to a 'tradition' 'culture' or 'heritage.' We take from and learn but one is not required to honor the past's violence and butchery.

Events such as these tell us there is a long way to go to leave the 'signs' of oppression and the southern culture and tradition and heritage of racism and the 100 year subjugation of blacks...removed. Removed not just from public sight but from the memories of those who once did celebrate such racism and slavery.

Why however though do we pay such respect for our constitutional right of freedom of speech but don't hold the same reverence for our equally constitutionally protected right to assemble ?

There are NO 'illegal' assemblies. For those who become violent, their actions become illegal...not the assembly.

Where can I find this "reason and judgement of modern mankind"? As with all of your tin foil hat theories, you don't have a foundation under any of your postulates. For instance, by your arguments, black people today shouldn't have any problems with prior slavery or racism issues because the reason and judgement of modern mankind tells us they don't have to be slaves to tradition, culture or heritage. So, good, according to you its all fixed now.

The legal part for the most part has been fixed with the exception of the obvious attempts at gerrymandering, voter restrictions and job discrimination. Haven't the slightest idea why you now go on about 'tin foil hat' theories whatever they are.

However no, it's not 'all fixed' now and quite the contrary. Because for example not just the confederate flag which to me, could just as well be a Nazi flag, representing the flag of a country for traitors who revolted against this country.

Then there are the statues and my presumed honor of a man who resigned his officer's commission in the US Army to go join another army to fight his former country, the ultimate in traitorous action. The US would have been equally justified in hanging Lee as it was in hanging John Brown.

You're arguing against your previous point. If the reason and judgement of modern mankind informs us that we don't need to be slave of tradition, culture or heritage then people of color don't need to be offended by statues and flags. If they do need to be offended then your reason and judgement of modern mankind statement is wrong or you are saying people of color don't have the reason and judgement of modern mankind.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 11:22:46 AM   
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Will this be the disgruntled dems' fault, then?

It is both groups fault.
The white nationalist shouldn't have the demonstration.
The leftists should stay away.

God damn, Bama! I think you have it, the solution to all our racial strife.

If only the Union soldiers had stayed away there would not have been a Civil War. Just fucking brilliant! Why didn't Lincoln think of that? Sheeesch!!!!

Isn't that how all of the status quo white empowered people do when facing an issue...just stay away ? I wonder if that would work with the rightist corp. welfare, lobbyist crowd ?

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 11:33:44 AM   
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Sort of a gang pay back sort of thing.


Gang payback...is the klan still pissed about abolishing slavery?


Oh no, now they partner with them and often offer sharecropping on the land. You see that way as the British bankers so eloquently put it, the slave has costs...the wage earner has $1/hr and pays his own support. Much more cost-effective.

Then when $1/hr isn't enough, call them poor, let the whole world know it is all their fault. Then resist in every way

their right to vote,
what congressional district they live in
what jobs they can take to supplement their agric. wage slavery...if any
where they can and cannot go
where they can or cannot sit
where they can or cannot drink or eat.

Most of that after 100 years, is thankfully gone, but most certainly took its toll.

Controlling wages and votes and who they can vote for...should 'keep [them] in their place' now.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 11:41:31 AM   
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All I want to say is, all the white politicians who have nothing to do with White Supremacists, and are not responsible for the actions of White Supremacists are apologetic and angry and criticizing the white Supremacists. They are loud. They are outage that their own kind are killing minorities.

Please take note Lefties. This is the reaction of a normal human being who genuinely from the bottom of their hearts, believe that killing minorities is wrong. They don't keep quiet. They do not say, white supremacists has nothing to do with them. Instead, they feel responsible! And they are loud in condemning it! And they are outrage their own people are doing something like this, making their race look bad.

This is all normal reaction of a genuine people who genuinely doesn't want other races dead.

Which this incident is proof to me that Muslims who always react defensively like saying, "Other Muslims killing non-Muslims has absolutely nothing to do with them, why should they even bother saying anything? It's not their fault."

That's the typical response.

IS clearly guilty of quietly supporting ISIS.

Their reaction is often defensive and anger for even asking them what they feel about ISIS. It's like this defensive, "Why are you asking me this? What ISIS does has nothing to do with me." If a genuine Muslim does not want non-Muslim dead. They should be reacting like these white politicians.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 11:43:17 AM   
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Sort of a gang pay back sort of thing.


Gang payback...is the klan still pissed about abolishing slavery?


Probably, but I'd bet it's more strongly related to current efforts by groups like BLM and antifa. I'd say they are making a point that if those groups can behave badly they have the same ability to do so.

Good ole' white law & order America hey ?

But the real fact of the matter is and having brought them up, to most, yes I will say most whites...black lives don't matter.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/13/2017 11:45:07 AM   
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do you mean nastis, white supremacists and bigoted pigs are learning this from BLM or "antifa"?

No, she means that if she can manage to contrive a similarity between the two then she can accuse anybody who criticises the display of fuckwittery in Virginia of hypocrisy, and so turn the thread into an argument based around personal attacks rather than a discussion of the issues involved. Basic troll rhetorics, Lucy: what passes for sophistry among these people.

Or, mind reading and projecting are actual basic troll tactics.

That isn't a denial, dear.

Why would I need to feed a troll? Are you that self important that you believe you are important to me? Are you that intent on derailing a discussion that until you and Lucy came along was actually discussing?

Still not a denial.

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