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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 6:40:37 AM   
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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 6:44:55 AM   
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- antifa is a reaction to the neo-Nazis. You have the cart pulling the horse.
- BLM is hardly terrorist.
- there is no hate america first group.

There ARE people who are full of shit, however.


Violent antifa howlers have been savaging women and old people and others who go to hear speeches or attend Trump rallies. This has been well documented, that you choose to be ignorant of their Nazi tactics just makes you another wild-eyed howler as bad as they

Black Lies Madder is indeed terrorist, especially toward the police and any innocent whites caught at the wrong place and wrong time. Again, well documented

Democrats are the largest hate America First! group, and it leads and trains many others. Seeks to destroy America as we know it through their radical no-borders push, the thorough destruction of the economy by making as many Americans totally dependent on government handouts as possible, and the dumbing down of our schools and colleges etc.



So as you're tarbrushing the antifa and BLM as groups entirely composed of violent terrorist thugs, can we assume that these wankers in Virginia speak for the whole of the right?
Or are you making generalisations selectively again?

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 6:51:30 AM   
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So as you're tarbrushing the antifa and BLM as groups entirely composed of violent terrorist thugs, can we assume that these wankers in Virginia speak for the whole of the right?
Or are you making generalisations selectively again?


Interesting that you post this

Now turn it around, and include the media arm of the Democrat party vs. white people who just like their historic statues and resent Black Lies Madder and antifa radicals, and the Democrat Party who funds and trains them

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 6:52:54 AM   
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It amazes me when liberals don't even know history. The KKK was started by democrats from the south and was the strong arm of the Democrat party. Do some research.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 6:53:28 AM   
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Is the US at a crossroads? Is it time for those mainstream politicians, who like Trump have been flirting with the far Right, stirring racial tensions and marginalising minorities, to decide (or be forced to decide) between their sympathy for the politics of far Right thuggery and conventional politics? To what extent has the dalliance between the forces of hate and the politicians who have harnessed these ugly forces to gain office laid the ground for terrorist acts such as we have just witnessed? What should happen if Trump refuses to distance himself and the office he occupies from these thugs? Is it time for the US to declare itself a zero tolerance zone for far Right thuggery and hate?

El presidente is incapable of doing so, or even being able to adopt a consistent stance on the lunatic fringe of the right as they were a big element in his election, but he doesn't want the more mainstream elements of the Republican party to regard him as part of that movement. So he does the mealy mouth, he evades and ties himself into knots to weasel out of condemning the deplorables (which might trigger a nasty backlash from shitehawks who thought he was speaking for them with some o the drivel he spouted while campaigning), or excusing and trying to co-opt them (which will trigger a backlash from the rest of his 26%).
You could almost feel sorry for the shitgibbon over the dilemma he's got himself into over this if it wasn't self-inflicted.


Tell you what

When the Democrat politicians stand up to the violent communists, antifa and Black Lies Madder terrorists and Hate America First! groups, etc, we might stop laughing at you and your your mad howling about those awful white people who don't know their place

Tell you what

What about answering some of the questions I asked instead of trying to change the topic?

I for one will be very interested to hear your thoughts on the toxic relationship between Trump, Bannon and Breitbart and the terrorist incident in Charlottesville.

Surely you would agree that Trump is bringing the high office he holds into disrepute by flirting with far and looney Right racists and fascists ... wouldn't you ...?

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 6:53:32 AM   
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Father of officer slain in Dallas ambush sues Black Lives Matter

Died protecting BLM terrorists

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 6:57:57 AM   
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It amazes me when liberals don't even know history. The KKK was started by democrats from the south and was the strong arm of the Democrat party. Do some research.


Right - when we see Communists fighting with KKK, we are seeing two Democrat Party groups going at it

Hillary Clinton warmly embraced a former KKK leader until his dying day, called him her mentor

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 6:59:12 AM   
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Surely you would agree that Trump is bringing the high office he holds into disrepute by flirting with far and looney Right racists and fascists ... wouldn't you ...?


President Trump has nothing to do with any white supremacists, you are literally insane.



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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 7:10:51 AM   
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The White Supremacists don't seem to understand that point. David Duke specifically claims "we elected him."

You don't seem very clear on quite a few points.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 7:14:39 AM   
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The White Supremacists don't seem to understand that point. David Duke specifically claims "we elected him."

You don't seem very clear on quite a few points.


Half the story (as always) - because you choose to be ignorant: He was lashing out at the president

Former KKK leader David Duke strikes out at Trump for condemning a white nationalist rally: 'It was White Americans who put you in the presidency'

Again, let us see just one time, a Democrat politician disowning the radical communists and BLM terrorists, Mexican nationalists and antifa goons who support and vote for them

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 7:18:24 AM   
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1) Yep, that's what I said.

2) It's damn childish to say "Well, it's OK to spread hate and get people killed as long as somebody else is doing it somewhere else in the world."

It's not. And it never will be.

Btw, if you got half the story, it would triple your understanding.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 7:18:45 AM   
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violent communists

really? In America? Cool!!!!!
How can I get in touch with them? I want to invite them to my next BBQ bash

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 7:19:15 AM   
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1) Yep, that's what I said.

2) It's damn childish to say "Well, it's OK to spread hate and get people killed as long as somebody else is doing it somewhere else in the world."

It's not. And it never will be.

Btw, if you got half the story, it would triple your understanding.


Rabid flailing.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 7:20:07 AM   
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I really feel sorry for the Tightie Righties in this group, forced by their stupidity into trying to excuse this shit. You poor sad pathetic little fucks.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 7:34:09 AM   
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1) Yep, that's what I said.

2) It's damn childish to say "Well, it's OK to spread hate and get people killed as long as somebody else is doing it somewhere else in the world."

It's not. And it never will be.

Btw, if you got half the story, it would triple your understanding.


Rabid flailing.

Your professed disavowal of Nazi protestors on page one sure vanished quickly once Trump decided to straddle the line between David Duke and rational Americans. A puppet of hate.

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No, Mr. President. What is going on in Charlottesville, Virginia is not "an egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides." It is a provocative effort on the part of Neo-Nazis to foment racism and hatred and create violence. Call it out for what it is.

Trump blames 'many sides' after violent white supremacist rally in Virginia

The Golfer-In-Chief. FFS.

President Donald Trump on Saturday blamed "many sides" for the violent clashes between protesters and white supremacists in Virginia and contended that the "hatred and bigotry" broadcast across the country had taken root long before his political ascendancy.

That was not how the Charlottesville mayor assessed the chaos that led the governor to declare a state of emergency, contending that Trump's campaign fed the flames of prejudice.

Trump, on a working vacation at his New Jersey golf club, had intended to speak briefly at a ceremony marking the signing of bipartisan legislation to aid veterans, but he quickly found that those plans were overtaken by the escalating violence in the Virginia college town. One person died and at least 26 others were sent to the hospital after a car plowed into a group of peaceful anti-racist counterprotesters amid days of race-fueled marches and violent clashes.

And officials later linked the deaths of two people aboard a crashed helicopter to the protests, though they did not say how they were linked.

Speaking slowly from a podium set up in the golf clubhouse, Trump said that he had just spoken to Gov. Terry McAuliffe, D-Va. "We agreed that the hate and the division must stop, and must stop right now. We have to come together as Americans with love for our nation and ... true affection for each other," he said.

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides," said Trump. "It's been going on for a long time in our country. Not Donald Trump. Not Barack Obama. It's been going on for a long, long time."

The president said that "what is vital now is a swift restoration of law and order and the protection of innocent lives."

After completing his statement and the bill signing, Trump then walked out of the room. He ignored reporters' shouted questions, including whether he wanted the support of white nationals who have said they backed him or if the car crash in Virginia were deemed intentional, would it be declared to be terrorism.

The previous two days, Trump took more than 50 questions from a small group of reporters. A White House spokeswoman did not immediately respond to a request for an explanation as to what Trump mean by "many sides."

Following Trump's comment, several Republicans pushed for a more explicit denunciation of white supremacists.

Colorado Sen. Cory Gardner tweeted "Mr. President - we must call evil by its name. These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism."

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio wrote "Nothing patriotic about #Nazis,the #KKK or #WhiteSupremacists It's the direct opposite of what #America seeks to be."

And even New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a staunch Trump supporter, wrote: "We reject the racism and violence of white nationalists like the ones acting out in Charlottesville. Everyone in leadership must speak out."

White nationalists had assembled in Charlottesville to vent their frustration against the city's plans to take down a statue of Confederal Gen. Robert E. Lee. Counter-protesters massed in opposition. A few hours after violent encounters between the two groups, a car drove into a crowd of people peacefully protesting the rally. The driver was later taken into custody.

Alt-right leader Richard Spencer and former Ku Klux Klan member David Duke attended the demonstrations. Duke told reporters that the white nationalists were working to "fulfill the promises of Donald Trump."

Trump's speech also drew praise from the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, which wrote: "Trump comments were good. He didn't attack us. He just said the nation should come together. Nothing specific against us. ... No condemnation at all."

The website had been promoting the Charlottesville demonstration as part of its "Summer of Hate" edition.

Mayor Michael Signer said he was disgusted that the white nationalists had come to his town and blamed Trump for inflaming racial prejudices with his campaign last year.

"I'm not going to make any bones about it. I place the blame for a lot of what you're seeing in American today right at the doorstep of the White House and the people around the president," he said.

Disturbances began Friday night during a torch-lit march through the University of Virginia before escalating Saturday.

The White House was silent for hours except for a tweet from first lady Melania Trump: "Our country encourages freedom of speech, but let's communicate w/o hate in our hearts."

Trump later tweeted: "We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for." He also said "there is no place for this kind of violence in America. Lets come together as one!" Trump tweeted condolences about the woman killed the protests Saturday evening, more than five hours after the crash.

Trump, as a candidate, frequently came under scrutiny for being slow to offer his condemnation of white supremacists. His strongest denunciation of the movement has not come voluntarily, only when asked, and he occasionally trafficked in retweets of racist social media posts during his campaign. His chief strategist, Steve Bannon, once declared that his former news site, Breitbart, was "the platform for the alt-right."

The president's reluctance to condemn white bigots also stood in stark contrast by his insistence of calling out "radical Islamic terrorism" by name.

"Now, to solve a problem, you have to be able to state what the problem is or at least say the name," Trump said in a general election debate.

In his remarks Saturday, Trump mentioned the strong economy and "the many incredible things in our country, so when I watch Charlottesville, to me it's very, very sad."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-charlottesville-violence-20170812-story.html

No, Mr. "President," YOU are very, very sad.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 7:41:18 AM   
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You and your Chicago Tribune howlers are all insane

There are indeed many sides to this, and despite your mad howling to the contrary it isn't as simple as black and white


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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 7:57:28 AM   
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For the dead victims, it's very black and white.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 8:13:48 AM   
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For the dead victims, it's very black and white.


Aw...

Where were your snake tears when BLM was assassinating police officers, when antifa was savaging people for attending speeches, campaign events or caught displaying unapproved political messages...

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 8:18:33 AM   
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For the dead victims, it's very black and white.


Aw...

Where were your snake tears when BLM was assassinating police officers, when antifa was savaging people for attending speeches, campaign events or caught displaying unapproved political messages...


Tell that to yourself the next time a Muslim commits a terrorist attack, I can guarantee you won't be as permissive of such violence as you are now.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/14/2017 8:23:06 AM   
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So which moslem terrorists were given a free pass to continue terrorist activities and attacks on protestors in the 'States, Greta? I'd be grateful if you could point at the news stories about that, as I seem to have missed them.


If ISIS wants to organize a rally in the US. The First Amendment will allow it.

US is not Europe.

Just that the Muslims see no purpose or benefit to them to hold a rally in the US as they aren't looking to recruit White people as their members.

So the white supremacists weren't allowed to hold a rally, is that what you're saying?
Weird: there was me thinking all of the aggro had been caused by them doing so, and making a point of picking a fight with protestors when they did.

The protesters were leftist antifa and they started the fights. Don't be an idiot.

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