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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 12:06:46 PM

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Tear down all of the statues of men because it is just a reminder of the Patriarchy and how women were subjugated.

By the same token if we should get rid of statues shouldn't we also get rid of museums?

Absolutely. Why would we want a museum to commemorate our vile history. They should be made into tranquil empty meditation centers instead. Perhaps a few trees and a waterfall.

Then we would only have libraries and the Nazis showed us how to deal with that.

Who needs a library when you can scan it all and put it online. Save the trees!!! It's an environmental protection/go green initiative.

If all of history is only kept online where it could be shut down totally or selectively edited in a keystroke by the ruling government that ultimately controls access to everything online, then you are truly living in George Orwell's world of 1984.

exactly

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 12:08:53 PM

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They did, but it was political, not about shady money.

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 12:11:34 PM

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Here you go. (Leviev is one of Putin's favoured bitches.)
The Grauniad, the Eye and New Statesman were on about this stuff back when the curry turd was still campaigning.

That establishes a questionable business link between Trump and a private citizen in Russia who happens to know Putin. It doesn't prove the money came from Putin though.
It's about like claiming that back in the early 60s Pepsi Cola was bankrolling Kruschev because they bought property in the USSR to build a bottling plant.

I may have been misinformed, but I think Pepsis did have a falling out with the democrats over that, did they not?

Carter personally got Coke into China when he was president and the Dems didn't have a problem with it.

Of course it was illegal to sell Pepsi in Atlanta in the 60's (Dems ran Georgia) so the Dems may
have had a problem

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 12:14:19 PM

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I was just wondering....which should we get rid of first? The Congress, the Supreme Court or the Presidency?

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 12:21:21 PM

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I was just wondering....which should we get rid of first? The Congress, the Supreme Court or the Presidency?

First the Constitution, after all it was written by traitors.

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 12:24:16 PM

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I was just wondering....which should we get rid of first? The Congress, the Supreme Court or the Presidency?

Tamaka
I understand your question is a topic for discussion and nothing else, but be careful how you word things.
We all know that the NSA is always peeking over our shoulders online, and "get rid of" could be interpreted as "rub out."
The way things are currently, being seen as possibly threatening the government could lead to a lot of mayhem.

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 12:27:29 PM

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I was just wondering....which should we get rid of first? The Congress, the Supreme Court or the Presidency?

Tamaka
I understand your question is a topic for discussion and nothing else, but be careful how you word things.
We all know that the NSA is always peeking over our shoulders online, and "get rid of" could be interpreted as "rub out."
The way things are currently, being seen as possibly threatening the government could lead to a lot of mayhem.

Repeal of the Constitution would get rid of the justification for all three.

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 12:38:13 PM

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Too no one in particular History is History. Are we going to start destroying iconoclastic icons: the great Pyramid, Stonehenge, Churchill etc

When did that statue go up anyway

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 12:45:05 PM

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Wellllll, the story is that the pyramids were built by slaves (disproven) so yeah, we should probably tear them down as symbols of slavery too.

Of course the White House, Capitol and Washington Monument were also built by slaves, so they have to go too.

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 12:45:46 PM

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Too no one in particular History is History. Are we going to start destroying iconoclastic icons: the great Pyramid, Stonehenge, Churchill etc

When did that statue go up anyway

They are saying that we should get rid of the pyramids because they were built by slaves.

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 12:47:21 PM

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I was just wondering....which should we get rid of first? The Congress, the Supreme Court or the Presidency?

Tamaka
I understand your question is a topic for discussion and nothing else, but be careful how you word things.
We all know that the NSA is always peeking over our shoulders online, and "get rid of" could be interpreted as "rub out."
The way things are currently, being seen as possibly threatening the government could lead to a lot of mayhem.

Ok that's a good point. I guess we have to be careful how we word things.

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 12:50:48 PM

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I was just wondering....which should we get rid of first? The Congress, the Supreme Court or the Presidency?

Tamaka
I understand your question is a topic for discussion and nothing else, but be careful how you word things.
We all know that the NSA is always peeking over our shoulders online, and "get rid of" could be interpreted as "rub out."
The way things are currently, being seen as possibly threatening the government could lead to a lot of mayhem.

Ok that's a good point. I guess we have to be careful how we word things.

Maybe "revised" or "modernized" would suit.

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 12:54:43 PM

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I was just wondering....which should we get rid of first? The Congress, the Supreme Court or the Presidency?

Tamaka
I understand your question is a topic for discussion and nothing else, but be careful how you word things.
We all know that the NSA is always peeking over our shoulders online, and "get rid of" could be interpreted as "rub out."
The way things are currently, being seen as possibly threatening the government could lead to a lot of mayhem.

Ok that's a good point. I guess we have to be careful how we word things.

Maybe "revised" or "modernized" would suit.

Yes... i like modernized.

Like perhaps the Presidency should not be one person. Perhaps there should be 2-3 people in the 'Administrative' spot. Like a team concept.

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 12:56:22 PM

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They were built by means unknown. Aliens or Civilizations lost to prehistory– most likely this one.

Or the latest Egyptologists theory – a paid and fed work force - hmm.

I wasnt really going for the slave point. Okay take Churchill was he a hero or villain

Strange i was just talking to someone in my hovel about this tonight as we sat and watched Good kirk v Evil Enterprise - good episode that one

Close Encounters of the Third Kind shit film.

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 1:00:16 PM

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I was just wondering....which should we get rid of first? The Congress, the Supreme Court or the Presidency?

Tamaka
I understand your question is a topic for discussion and nothing else, but be careful how you word things.
We all know that the NSA is always peeking over our shoulders online, and "get rid of" could be interpreted as "rub out."
The way things are currently, being seen as possibly threatening the government could lead to a lot of mayhem.

Ok that's a good point. I guess we have to be careful how we word things.

Maybe "revised" or "modernized" would suit.

Yes... i like modernized.

Like perhaps the Presidency should not be one person. Perhaps there should be 2-3 people in the 'Administrative' spot. Like a team concept.

I have personally felt for decades that the President should handle foreign policy and actions and that the Vice President should oversee the country's internal affairs.
I'd also like to see one more Senator added per state as hopefully, that might prevent so many evenly split votes.

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 1:03:51 PM

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I was just wondering....which should we get rid of first? The Congress, the Supreme Court or the Presidency?

Tamaka
I understand your question is a topic for discussion and nothing else, but be careful how you word things.
We all know that the NSA is always peeking over our shoulders online, and "get rid of" could be interpreted as "rub out."
The way things are currently, being seen as possibly threatening the government could lead to a lot of mayhem.

Ok that's a good point. I guess we have to be careful how we word things.

Maybe "revised" or "modernized" would suit.

Yes... i like modernized.

Like perhaps the Presidency should not be one person. Perhaps there should be 2-3 people in the 'Administrative' spot. Like a team concept.

I have personally felt for decades that the President should handle foreign policy and actions and that the Vice President should oversee the country's internal affairs.

Yes. Something like that, except they would be co-equals.

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 1:19:09 PM

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If they were co-equal they would need to be separately elected and might often be of differing parties. In some ways that might be good, say a conservative handling foreign policy and a liberal handling internal policy, but most probably would just cause more conflict. My concept is to elect the VP for six years, (four year cycles tend to result in constant campaigning, and the last two years of a second term presidency seems to be when things fall apart) then after training as VP, he automatically becomes President for six years, after which he is replaced by the current VP. Hopefully by seasoning each VP before sending him or her up to be President we could have a much more stable foreign policy. Currently, every time we get a new President it takes them a couple of years to get any kind if stable foreign policy.This would all provide more stability externally and internally and yet prevent any kind of dynasty. Just a thought open for discussion.

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 1:23:15 PM

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If they were co-equal they would need to be separately elected and might often be of differing parties. In some ways that might be good, say a conservative handling foreign policy and a liberal handling internal policy, but most probably would just cause more conflict. My concept is to elect the VP for six years, (four year cycles tend to result in constant campaigning, and the last two years of a second term presidency seems to be when things fall apart) then after training as VP, he automatically becomes President for six years, after which he is replaced by the current VP. Hopefully by seasoning each VP before sending him or her up to be President we could have a much more stable foreign policy. Currently, every time we get a new President it takes them a couple of years to get any kind if stable foreign policy.This would all provide more stability externally and internally and yet prevent any kind of dynasty. Just a thought open for discussion.

I have to agree on the first part.
One person in charge of foreign policy and one in charge of domestic, who is in charge of who gets what money?

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 1:27:05 PM

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Congress always votes on funding, that's part of their Constitutional authority.

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RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting... - 8/17/2017 1:32:46 PM

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If they were co-equal they would need to be separately elected and might often be of differing parties. In some ways that might be good, say a conservative handling foreign policy and a liberal handling internal policy, but most probably would just cause more conflict. My concept is to elect the VP for six years, (four year cycles tend to result in constant campaigning, and the last two years of a second term presidency seems to be when things fall apart) then after training as VP, he automatically becomes President for six years, after which he is replaced by the current VP. Hopefully by seasoning each VP before sending him or her up to be President we could have a much more stable foreign policy. Currently, every time we get a new President it takes them a couple of years to get any kind if stable foreign policy.This would all provide more stability externally and internally and yet prevent any kind of dynasty. Just a thought open for discussion.

That makes a lot of sense to me.

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