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You have such a small mind for someone who talks so much.

Actually, to the contrary, it is you who have the small mind, willing to sacrifice innocent lives to keep guns and gun laws from changing.

I said before, you clearly need to see the faces of those innocent dead, and perhaps you might (although I doubt it) change your opinion.

But then, as you have already proven ample times, either you dont actually give a flying fuck or have no cognitive ability to do so.

Either way, it is people like you who make such statements that harms the gun rights movement more than any twenty mass killers.

If a nutcase wants to kill people, no gun law is going to stop them.

Might make it a bit more difficult for them, though.
Still, if the whole "criminals ignore the law" strawman is a valid argument against this, let's repeal all of those laws about child abuse, drug dealing, rape, extortion and murder, which the law has obviously failed to eradicate.

Not comparable. Gun laws are about infringing on a right which would, overtime, expand to affect more and more people.

So why do the opponents to gun control keep stressing that the existing laws obviously don't work whenever more regulation is suggested, then?

Because nothing is going to stop someone from killing someone if their mind is set on killing someone, as i said earlier.

What's going to stop somebody from digging up your mother and using her skeletons to make sex toys if their mind is set upon it? That proves that the laws against necrophillia and graverobbing are pointless and futile as they won't deter a committed pervert.
What's going to stop somebody abducting your daughter, fucking her until she's bleeding from every hole she's got, then grinding her up in a meat processing plant to hide the evidence? The laws against child abuse and sexual exploitation have been repeatedly proven to be useless and futile, after all.
The main defining point of criminals, you'll find, is that they ignore laws. That's what defines them as criminals in the first place. If you're using a flaw in human nature to argue that more legislation to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill and professional criminals should be avoided because the laws wouldn't work, you should probably be calling for all of the other laws that don't work to be repealed as well.

Well then good. Glad you came around. Since it's already against the law to shoot someone, we don't need more gun laws as you've just argued.

Not actually what I argued, but given your lengthy history of not always feigned stupidity on here, it's hardly surprising you've contrived to miss the point of that.

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Oh I got your point. I also thought it was funny that you missed that you were arguing against previous points you and other anti-gun nuts put forth all of the time. It's funny because you'll argue anything merely to win an arguement. I don't believe you have personal grounded morals or principles except to make yourself feel good. This time, in your zeal, you missed the points you were arguing were contrary to what you've argued in the past.

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Oh I got your point. I also thought it was funny that you missed that you were arguing against previous points you and other anti-gun nuts put forth all of the time. It's funny because you'll argue anything merely to win an arguement. I don't believe you have personal grounded morals or principles except to make yourself feel good. This time, in your zeal, you missed the points you were arguing were contrary to what you've argued in the past.

Really?
So where have I used the traditional idiot's argument that gun legislation is useless because criminals ignore the law which I was mocking in that post, then?

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Oh I got your point. I also thought it was funny that you missed that you were arguing against previous points you and other anti-gun nuts put forth all of the time. It's funny because you'll argue anything merely to win an arguement. I don't believe you have personal grounded morals or principles except to make yourself feel good. This time, in your zeal, you missed the points you were arguing were contrary to what you've argued in the past.

Really?
So where have I used the traditional idiot's argument that gun legislation is useless because criminals ignore the law which I was mocking in that post, then?

LMAO, you're still missing the point. It's funny.

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You have such a small mind for someone who talks so much.

Actually, to the contrary, it is you who have the small mind, willing to sacrifice innocent lives to keep guns and gun laws from changing.

I said before, you clearly need to see the faces of those innocent dead, and perhaps you might (although I doubt it) change your opinion.

But then, as you have already proven ample times, either you dont actually give a flying fuck or have no cognitive ability to do so.

Either way, it is people like you who make such statements that harms the gun rights movement more than any twenty mass killers.

If a nutcase wants to kill people, no gun law is going to stop them.

Might make it a bit more difficult for them, though.
Still, if the whole "criminals ignore the law" strawman is a valid argument against this, let's repeal all of those laws about child abuse, drug dealing, rape, extortion and murder, which the law has obviously failed to eradicate.

Not comparable. Gun laws are about infringing on a right which would, overtime, expand to affect more and more people.

So why do the opponents to gun control keep stressing that the existing laws obviously don't work whenever more regulation is suggested, then?

Because nothing is going to stop someone from killing someone if their mind is set on killing someone, as i said earlier.

What's going to stop somebody from digging up your mother and using her skeletons to make sex toys if their mind is set upon it? That proves that the laws against necrophillia and graverobbing are pointless and futile as they won't deter a committed pervert.
What's going to stop somebody abducting your daughter, fucking her until she's bleeding from every hole she's got, then grinding her up in a meat processing plant to hide the evidence? The laws against child abuse and sexual exploitation have been repeatedly proven to be useless and futile, after all.
The main defining point of criminals, you'll find, is that they ignore laws. That's what defines them as criminals in the first place. If you're using a flaw in human nature to argue that more legislation to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill and professional criminals should be avoided because the laws wouldn't work, you should probably be calling for all of the other laws that don't work to be repealed as well.

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Oh I got your point. I also thought it was funny that you missed that you were arguing against previous points you and other anti-gun nuts put forth all of the time. It's funny because you'll argue anything merely to win an arguement. I don't believe you have personal grounded morals or principles except to make yourself feel good. This time, in your zeal, you missed the points you were arguing were contrary to what you've argued in the past.

Really?
So where have I used the traditional idiot's argument that gun legislation is useless because criminals ignore the law which I was mocking in that post, then?

LMAO, you're still missing the point. It's funny.

So you can't demonstrate that I'm arguing against a point I've made previously, and are talking out of your arse yet again.
What a surprise.

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You have such a small mind for someone who talks so much.

Actually, to the contrary, it is you who have the small mind, willing to sacrifice innocent lives to keep guns and gun laws from changing.

I said before, you clearly need to see the faces of those innocent dead, and perhaps you might (although I doubt it) change your opinion.

But then, as you have already proven ample times, either you dont actually give a flying fuck or have no cognitive ability to do so.

Either way, it is people like you who make such statements that harms the gun rights movement more than any twenty mass killers.

If a nutcase wants to kill people, no gun law is going to stop them.

Might make it a bit more difficult for them, though.
Still, if the whole "criminals ignore the law" strawman is a valid argument against this, let's repeal all of those laws about child abuse, drug dealing, rape, extortion and murder, which the law has obviously failed to eradicate.

Not comparable. Gun laws are about infringing on a right which would, overtime, expand to affect more and more people.

So why do the opponents to gun control keep stressing that the existing laws obviously don't work whenever more regulation is suggested, then?

Because nothing is going to stop someone from killing someone if their mind is set on killing someone, as i said earlier.

What's going to stop somebody from digging up your mother and using her skeletons to make sex toys if their mind is set upon it? That proves that the laws against necrophillia and graverobbing are pointless and futile as they won't deter a committed pervert.
What's going to stop somebody abducting your daughter, fucking her until she's bleeding from every hole she's got, then grinding her up in a meat processing plant to hide the evidence? The laws against child abuse and sexual exploitation have been repeatedly proven to be useless and futile, after all.
The main defining point of criminals, you'll find, is that they ignore laws. That's what defines them as criminals in the first place. If you're using a flaw in human nature to argue that more legislation to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill and professional criminals should be avoided because the laws wouldn't work, you should probably be calling for all of the other laws that don't work to be repealed as well.

Let me help you. The laws we have really don't stop criminals with their mind set on doing some wrongdoing. Just as you stated above.

Laws simply describe certain wrongdoings and define them as a 'crime' and associate penalties (consequences) for choosing to commit the action defined as a crime.

The reason why people don't want more gun laws is because they have no intent to commit a crime and they are guaranteed the right to own guns. More gunlaws just serve to penalize an upright, law-abiding citizen while not preventing criminals from getting their hands on a gun (one way or another) and commiting a crime.

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Oh I got your point. I also thought it was funny that you missed that you were arguing against previous points you and other anti-gun nuts put forth all of the time. It's funny because you'll argue anything merely to win an arguement. I don't believe you have personal grounded morals or principles except to make yourself feel good. This time, in your zeal, you missed the points you were arguing were contrary to what you've argued in the past.

Really?
So where have I used the traditional idiot's argument that gun legislation is useless because criminals ignore the law which I was mocking in that post, then?

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Oh I got your point. I also thought it was funny that you missed that you were arguing against previous points you and other anti-gun nuts put forth all of the time. It's funny because you'll argue anything merely to win an arguement. I don't believe you have personal grounded morals or principles except to make yourself feel good. This time, in your zeal, you missed the points you were arguing were contrary to what you've argued in the past.

Really?
So where have I used the traditional idiot's argument that gun legislation is useless because criminals ignore the law which I was mocking in that post, then?

LMAO, you're still missing the point. It's funny.

So you can't demonstrate that I'm arguing against a point I've made previously, and are talking out of your arse yet again.
What a surprise.

Not can't, won't. I enjoy you flopping around looking stupid. Which actually happens more than you realize.

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They believe in trickle down criminology.

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Oh I got your point. I also thought it was funny that you missed that you were arguing against previous points you and other anti-gun nuts put forth all of the time. It's funny because you'll argue anything merely to win an arguement. I don't believe you have personal grounded morals or principles except to make yourself feel good. This time, in your zeal, you missed the points you were arguing were contrary to what you've argued in the past.

Really?
So where have I used the traditional idiot's argument that gun legislation is useless because criminals ignore the law which I was mocking in that post, then?

LMAO, you're still missing the point. It's funny.

So you can't demonstrate that I'm arguing against a point I've made previously, and are talking out of your arse yet again.
What a surprise.

Not can't, won't. I enjoy you flopping around looking stupid. Which actually happens more than you realize.

Can't, not won't. If you had anything, you'd use it. You don't though, do you?

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I'm still waiting to find out who they say is responsible for reporting all of the illegal aliens to be 'registered' in the 'database'. I suppose it would fall on anyone who knows them... family, friends, neighbors, etc. I wonder what the penalty should be for failure to report them.

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I'm still waiting to find out who they say is responsible for reporting all of the illegal aliens to be 'registered' in the 'database'. I suppose it would fall on anyone who knows them... family, friends, neighbors, etc. I wonder what the penalty should be for failure to report them.

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I'm still waiting to find out who they say is responsible for reporting all of the illegal aliens to be 'registered' in the 'database'. I suppose it would fall on anyone who knows them... family, friends, neighbors, etc. I wonder what the penalty should be for failure to report them.

Turn the whole county into spies for the government.
Kind of like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

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They believe in trickle down criminology.

Yes, making guns more difficult to get is the very definition of cruel and inhuman punishment.
I am surprised that the United Nations isn't proposing a humanitarian intervention due to the librul threat in the US, because it's frankly really terrifying.

Stay strong and be careful out there.

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I'm still waiting to find out who they say is responsible for reporting all of the illegal aliens to be 'registered' in the 'database'. I suppose it would fall on anyone who knows them... family, friends, neighbors, etc. I wonder what the penalty should be for failure to report them.

Turn the whole county into spies for the government.
Kind of like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

Exactly... that's what i meant when i said "slippery slope".

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They believe in trickle down criminology.

Yes, making guns more difficult to get is the very definition of cruel and inhuman punishment.
I am surprised that the United Nations isn't proposing a humanitarian intervention due to the librul threat in the US, because it's frankly really terrifying.

Stay strong and be careful out there.

Should we take away the right of speech, the right to vote, the emancipation, or the right to privacy? Which rights do you believe we shouldn't have?

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I'm still waiting to find out who they say is responsible for reporting all of the illegal aliens to be 'registered' in the 'database'. I suppose it would fall on anyone who knows them... family, friends, neighbors, etc. I wonder what the penalty should be for failure to report them.

Turn the whole county into spies for the government.
Kind of like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

Exactly... that's what i meant when i said "slippery slope".

Slippery slope my great grandmother's ass.

Unless the law is changed, and god knows with the last decade of mass shootings, it could have been attempted and as of now, no attempts have been made, there is no slippery slope, the part directly affecting people who are unbalanced emotionally or mentally, is still subject to the ruling of a judge or, if they have been institutionalized for violent behavior that has endangered others, as in by a family member.