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Pretty sure that's what "harvesting" means?

Apparently there's a program that lets nonviolent inmates sign up to be in a program that has them fighting these fires, while earning double 'time for good behavior' with each day.

Actually yes, I live in the area being discussed. The California Department of Forestry uses prisoners here quite a bit in the forest. But, generally only to keep trails and roads clear. They don't log, they clean up deadfalls and clear brush from drainage ditches. When logger come in...or came in before anti-logging became a political thing...areas that were logged were cleaned up with just enough slash left to prevent erosion and people racing around on ATVs.

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Antipollution regulation accelerated California’s deindustrialization. Aerospace manufacturing shifted to states with lower energy costs and right-to-work laws. In the ten years to 2015, Southern California’s industrial base shed 60 percent of its workforce, from 900,000 to 364,000.6 Environmental progress is socially regressive in its application, Kotkin argues. California has America’s largest number of billionaires (111) and its highest poverty rate (23 percent) on the Supplemental Poverty Measure. With roughly 12 percent of America’s population, California accounts for roughly one-third of its welfare recipients. The clerisy’s no-growth planning policies increase downward mobility, particularly among Latinos. Shockingly, native-born Latinos have shorter life spans than their parents. Without broad-based economic growth, large parts of an emergent middle class risk becoming a permanent class of low-wage proletarians, Kotkin suggests. Technology replaces religious faith or civic virtue to provide a secular justification for increased social stratification in what Kotkin dubs “high-tech feudalism.” The proletarianization of the American middle class is not an unfortunate or unwelcome by-product of green ideas. Killing the American Dream is necessary for the success of the Europeanization project because ever-rising material consumption—especially the burning of hydrocarbons—is the clerisy’s biggest prohibition.

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And then there's the dude that saved a rabbit.

http://people.com/human-interest/man-rescued-rabbit-socal-fires-viral-video-speaks-out/

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And then there's the dude that saved a rabbit.

http://people.com/human-interest/man-rescued-rabbit-socal-fires-viral-video-speaks-out/

With all the devastation, the rabbit gets a big news story.

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I don't know anything about the climate of California. But I would assume it's autumn/winter now and it would be cold.

Not hot and sunny.

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Surprised no one started a thread on the California fires.
These fires have been historic and are one of the deadliest, if not the deadliest in the history of California.

They might not fall under the "Politics" or "Religion" categories.

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I am of the belief Trump dismantled the EPA, headed by none other than a has been Exxon stooge called Tllerson and his 250 million Exxon ruskie rubble dollars. They have the best interest of you fukwits in their sick minds.

It is important you know that

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Surprised no one started a thread on the California fires.
These fires have been historic and are one of the deadliest, if not the deadliest in the history of California.

They might not fall under the "Politics" or "Religion" categories.

Actually, politics and wild fires are two very linked items.

The politics involving public lands and indeed what you can do with private lands actually contribute to the very conditions that allow wild fires like these to occur.

On private lands, if you go out and do a controlled burn to clear the undergrowth that feeds these infernos, especially in California, you get hit with fines because of the air quality laws.

On public lands, the people in charge completely ignore the natural process that prevents such massive fires, namely small fires started by lightning strikes which keep burning off excess under growth before it gets so thick that it turns into what is going on now.

So, when mom nature gets a chance to teach us poor humans a lesson in how things work, she does it in a way that can be compared to using a nuke to blast an ant hill.

Then you have the environmental groups that really go nuts when there is an announcement of a 'selective harvest' of timber. They file injunctions and everything else to either 1) prevent it from happening or 2) make it so that the logging roads are barely wide enough for two trucks to pass.

The old, wide (they were called excessively wide) dirt logging roads of the pre 70's era actually worked as fire breaks, but the environmentalist idiots claimed that they were so wide that wildlife would not cross them (completely ignoring the fact that wild animals are hit by cars and trucks on 6 lane super highways.)


While we do not get forest fires in my part of the country, we do get range and brush fires, and of course, it is illegal for land owners to do a controlled range or brush fire to keep the shit from becoming fuel for massive fires, unless we can prove that it is necessary for live stock production (which we cant because the places we want to burn is so thick with thorns, cactus, and worse that you cant get anything larger than a rabbit through it.)

So when a fire starts here, it spreads, and a few years ago burned 50% of a small town southeast of where I live.

But hey, whats a few historic homes, a 180 year old church in its original building and a school compared to common sense.

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And then there's the dude that saved a rabbit.

http://people.com/human-interest/man-rescued-rabbit-socal-fires-viral-video-speaks-out/

With all the devastation, the rabbit gets a big news story.