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African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/6/2006 6:36:55 PM   
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I don't have an ego investment in this, so if you disagree that's fine. I'm just curious. Has anyone else noticed that Black Female Dominants overall (the key word here) seem to be a bit more 'realistic' in their profiles?  They're not quite so 'out there' in fantasyland. Alcohol usage, careers, family life, etc are mentioned somewhat more than 'average', or is that my imagination?

Unrelated note: I've heard from Black Dommes that white males are easier to enslave and keep enslaved  for a variety of reasons.
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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/6/2006 7:16:24 PM   
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I haven't noticed but then again black female dominants are not profiles I browse very often so I have no clue. 

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/6/2006 7:20:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PhDslave

I don't have an ego investment in this, so if you disagree that's fine. I'm just curious. Has anyone else noticed that Black Female Dominants overall (the key word here) seem to be a bit more 'realistic' in their profiles?  They're not quite so 'out there' in fantasyland. Alcohol usage, careers, family life, etc are mentioned somewhat more than 'average', or is that my imagination?

Unrelated note: I've heard from Black Dommes that white males are easier to enslave and keep enslaved  for a variety of reasons.


I haven't noticed that, I have however noticed that Norwegians can't hold a tan.

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/6/2006 7:36:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PhDslave

I don't have an ego investment in this, so if you disagree that's fine. I'm just curious. Has anyone else noticed that Black Female Dominants overall (the key word here) seem to be a bit more 'realistic' in their profiles?  They're not quite so 'out there' in fantasyland. Alcohol usage, careers, family life, etc are mentioned somewhat more than 'average', or is that my imagination?

Unrelated note: I've heard from Black Dommes that white males are easier to enslave and keep enslaved  for a variety of reasons.


Yes, it's your imagination.

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/6/2006 7:37:25 PM   
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LOL...everybody's a comedian.

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/6/2006 7:47:24 PM   
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*lol*

You guys are truly hilarious sometimes.

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/6/2006 7:49:47 PM   
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omg...ummm no I hadn't noticed that. Thanks for sharing. *shakes head*

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/7/2006 12:36:04 AM   
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Obviously we're not reading the same set of profiles...

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/7/2006 3:48:05 AM   
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greetings
 
this would be the first time in my reading the post that everyone took this as a joke not one of you even asnwer this question which is a good post yes it is true as being one of thw black domme here yes we do tell are true wieght, we as black woman a study showed we are more comfortable in my body imagine. i am shock that no one thought just to be polite with a yes or on the joke was on i see ladies you could had at least tryed
 
i never been ignore or spoke to badly by anyone here at all so when i saw this post i want to see what all of you might say but oh well the joke in on me this time i hope the next post will give an ansower and not laugh at
 
mons ( no one write and say mons was mad i just wanted to know why it was a joke to all of you )

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/7/2006 6:32:02 AM   
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Mons, the sharpness or mild amusement in some cases was not directed at African-American dominant woman the OP was so blatantly trolling for, it was directed at the OP. I would be quite disturbed about the not so subtle racism this post exhibited, and would consider the long term affect such a biased view would have on any relationship the OP entered into. If I were a woman of colour I would consider this bias even more deeply, unless of course I wished to be viewed as one of the group and through these pre-concieved views (based on profile writing).
*edited to add ~ mons, replace the OP words "Black Female Dominants overall" with "Any Other Racial Group Female Dominants" and you will understand what I mean.


*edited for clarity

In direct response to the OP I stand by my first statement, NO I did not notice that and actually took some time to read through some of the profiles, nor  have most of the other respondents to your post.

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/7/2006 8:03:07 AM   
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My profile is very realistic I AM 5 ft 8 and 220lbs with red hair and brown eyes, and as my best friend who is black says I'm the whitest white gal you've probably ever seen. I figure why lie? I am who I am and dammit Im PROUD of who I am. I don't drink, I don't do illegal drugs. I am a college graduate and I have my own small company. Nothing out of the norm as far as I can tell.

As far as white male slaves/subs who say that only black Dommes can enslave them, I've heard black subs/slaves say that they feel only a white Master/Mistress can truly enslave them. <shrugs> I have no idea, I guess it depends upon the people involved in the relationship.

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/7/2006 8:07:07 AM   
adeem


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proud
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and please Mistress.....
Mistress to me is everything and above everything...to me everything
centered
around Mistress,
and Her needs and my wants and desires do not amount to anything other
than
help Mistress takes me to Her world of mystery,
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wax
play..
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wooden spoon spanking..paddling....foot worship..lege worship..boot
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penetration.
these are by no means my only intreasts....

i am a true beleiver in
the fact that men are the real weaker sex. ,..i hope You are the
Mistress i
need,...if you are.....i
will always will put You ina great mood ..and will get Your heart rate
up from
excitment.
...to me Mistress is the one who will make me see things Her way..and
who will
guide me
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want it
more,,
i know Mistress is the one who takes my wants , desiresand my needs
into my
consideration
, Mistress i know for sure Mistress role is to help me discover my
dark and
inner desires
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life..and
God created me to
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pleasure....i
feel You arethe Mistress who will take me deeper into mysyelf...
please Mistress , leade me to my secret hidden desires.......and take
me to
complete submission. 




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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/7/2006 8:21:01 AM   
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*sigh* It wasn't racism - quite the contrary. I just gradually became aware of  a SLIGHT  tendency for  African-American profiles to appear (to me at least) SOMEWHAT  more grounded in realism. From my point of view, that's a GOOD thing. I'm talking about overall impressions and not specific ads.

The next accusation was  that I was trolling for black dommes. There's no way I can definitively refute this other than to simply  say...I wasn't.

Few  would deny that there's a difference between male and female dominants' profiles overall. So is that sexism?  I just thought that I might have  detected a slight variation AMONG Female Dominant groups and wondered if others had as well. The consensus appears to be 'No'. Fine. No big deal.

The Norwegian comment was funny.

Now, if I had half a brain I'd leave things as is and revisit the message board in a week after things cooled down, but ....

Has anyone noticed a slight difference overall  in profiles between younger ( say 18-30 ish) and older ( 45+ ) Dommes? 


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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/7/2006 8:40:34 AM   
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I am so pleased that you were not being conciously racist PhDslave, however, to judge, forward or in any other way segregate an individual based solely on his or her racial affiliation, is rascist, whether that judgement is postive or negative. Perhaps I should have been a bit clearer in defining my words, but thought it would not have been necessary to do so when addressing a topic posted by a PhD.
By segragate I mean, separated or isolated from others or a main group, in this case the group being dominant women.

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/7/2006 8:45:05 AM   
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I didn't read the OP as racist at all. Trolling... maybe if I read it in a different head space.

I have preferences for particular races and can say in broad generalizations what I would find to be "normal" with a person of that race. Same way I can say things about my own race that are considered "normal" in a broad generalized way.

I don't care for the term "African American" because as my friends have pointed out, they are not from Africa. *shrugs* So, I simply use the term Black and leave it at that. I am considered "white" but that is not my race and I really hate being called Caucasian.

As for Black women who are Dominants, I think culture does play alot into who they are as person...same goes for everyone.

I had to chuckle at the "white men are easier to enslave and keep enslaved longer". It just sounded funny when I read it.

Going back to a cultural perspective, black men face a very strong stigma against being a "slave" to anyone. Much like the Latino male community, machismo plays a big part in their cultural upbringing. . To overcome that and allow himself to submit and/or be enslaved is about overcoming years of upbringing and ideals that he has been taught right from the breast is unacceptable and that to do so would make him less of a man.

While white submissive men can get away with wearing a collar at a Fourth of July festival, I don't think there is a black man alive with balls big enough to wear a collar to a Juneteenth celebration. I would applaude his sense of self and stand by his side, but he would also have to be willing to face some very harsh words from that community.

Discussing race and opinions of the differences between races is not being racist. Saying that he observed more honesty in profiles from one particular race is not a big deal.

Saying white men are easier to enslave could be take as a slight on white men or a slight on men of color (since he didn't make a direct comparison as to which race was harder).

I dunno. Maybe there is history between the folks who blog here that I am not aware of. I seen it as a valid observation and actually a really good topic (cultural differences in partners and how they affect the SM dynamics).  If you are white but raised in a black family, your would probably identify more with the black culture than white culture. Same goes if you were brought up in a Latino culture.




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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/7/2006 8:50:37 AM   
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My answer was not meant as a joke.  To me I found  what was said by the OP something on the lines of imaginary and in my feeling a bit inflamatory.   I saw it as something just asking for a flaming war, and jokes that followed, quite in line.  And as to the OP question, in my dealings with other women in the lifestyle, over all, no one ethnic group has any more realistic approach to bdsm over the other as far as I'm concerned.  I mean really, what's the purpose of making such a statement in a forum that's prodominately populated by a non African-American group if not to insite a war of words?  Was it really to get everyone to have a light bulb moment or are we talking fantasy land here. 

As a Black woman myself, I think we are some great women and have a lot to offer, but that doesn't mean it makes me superior to my sisters of other ethnic groups.  Nothing annoys me more than being singled out because of my ethnic makeup, so yes, I found the OP's statements offensive and just another way to (especially that little dig about alcohol usage, what was that about?) divide women and start a cat fight if nothing else.  Girl on girl action even

Rosa

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/7/2006 9:01:25 AM   
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To discuss observations based on race, religion, or gender in this society at this time is very tricky and fraught with emotional  landmines. Misunderstandings abound. I thought I might have detected an interesting phenomenon - minor, to be sure, but perhaps of interest to our little community. Different groups of people  have different collective  life experiences. Is that reflected in their profiles? Yes? No? Unclear? Partially?

I see the subject is too touchy and regret its introduction.

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/7/2006 9:15:12 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PhDslave

*sigh* It wasn't racism - quite the contrary. I just gradually became aware of  a SLIGHT  tendency for  African-American profiles to appear (to me at least) SOMEWHAT  more grounded in realism. From my point of view, that's a GOOD thing. I'm talking about overall impressions and not specific ads.


I dunno.  I'm a truth-telling, brutally honest fat white chick who is who she is in the profile and out.  Be real or be gone boys.  Heck, I even tell people where they can find me to see for themselves that I'm real.  It doesn't get any better than that.

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/7/2006 9:37:47 AM   
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quote:

Has anyone noticed a slight difference overall  in profiles between younger ( say 18-30 ish) and older ( 45+ ) Dommes?


Why yes, I have actually.  The 18-30's profiles are 18-30 where the 45+ profiles are...45+.  **hums Twilight Zone theme** freaky ;)

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RE: African-Amercian Dominant Women - 9/7/2006 9:43:33 AM   
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In all seriousness, while some of these theories are interesting...and I am talking about all the theories of late, not just this one...they can not be proven.  Nobody has done any scientific studies, the observations (80% this, all dommes are this...etc) are based only on the very small number of profiles examined by the poster so the results will be subjective.  I mean what exactly does "realistic in their profiles" mean exactly?

Making sweeping generalizations about any segment is bound to get you into trouble and really, what is the point?  Everyone will disagree with you in some way for different reasons, it will be offensive to many and there is no way to prove or disprove such vague theory. 

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