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My final submission? - 11/26/2007 12:32:03 PM   
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Was this my final submission?
I am asking both a rhetorical question and a direct question here and simply wondering if anyone else has been here, where I feel I am at the moment.
Basically; I submitted.....in a relaionship that almost did become public property on here. I carried out instructions, I took the crop/cane/pain and satisfied his sadistic tendencies and my own masochism
I fell into subpace with him simply from a face smack....and in my way of putting it....submitted from my heart. I was happy doing it and believed totally in the dynamic. It was, has as beeen described on here, a semi-open relationship....which was that I agreed to tell him of relationshups I was involved in but agreed I supported him as the dominant to have others in relationship.
However: he used, played jealousy games, played each one of us each against the other and finally told me that he preferred to swing. The worse shock was that he would only swing with those she wanted and found attractive and was quite content therefore to be submitted to her. That was the ibiggest shock.
I have salvaged the situation. I have stated my withdrawal, triangulated hm by asking a member of his family he had introduced me to, by asking tem he not contact me again.  I have not outed him or said why.I have been deleting his text messages as unread.
Over the weekend I admitted to feeling so depressed as to feel suicidal....something I was very very clear I would not do...but just so feeling that I couldn't go on in the lifestyle anymore. Since I have a business and youngsers whom rely on me I would never do it but the sheerdread of what and how to move forward was overwhelming.
i have dealt with this by having my telephone line changed at home and my internet put on hold. I am typing this at a friends and will check for any responses here in a couple of days time as I feel there on many whom I respect here who will identify and offer support. 
It might be my final act of submission. As a switch, whom is usually only domme with women, I have called a friend....a vanilla friend whom I have known for over four years via the internet but have never met.
He asked me a simple question: what do you want of me? And in that moment i realised that he had put me in the dominant postion and it was an absolute thrill.....similar to the thrill I would normally feel if a woman had asked. He gave me the power and pulled my soul back together.
When he and I first met on a vanilla dating site four years ago our emails when searching each other out crossed at the exact moment in time. He is a friend and in the same people business that I am....however I need to make the switch. Not out of feelings of revenge. Not out of reaction. But out of a sense of responsibility, out of a sense of wanting something, and as yet I don't know what that is from this potential new relationship.
It feels like my final switch or quit the lifestyle.
Does anyone recognise this pattern?
I suppose the question relates to those who are switches, but not necessarily.
Who made the final switch and why?
Heart felt searching again as ever:
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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 12:37:16 PM   
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I am very sorry to hear that you are hurting. I have no advice, I just wanted to say hang in there.

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 12:41:31 PM   
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this is so tough.

i have no amazing words of advice, but i can share this.

my last relationship ended less than a month ago. i was his, and i loved it. i loved him.

something changed; he didn't think it was worth fixing.

and yet, since our circumstances were generally amicable, he and i are still playing together. he recently told me he wouldn't be opposed to me topping him.

and suddenly, i am stuck asking myself a lot of questions about what submission means to me, what's important about these 'roles', if i can do it, if i want to do this...and i find myself strangely attracted to it.

so i say, do it. let yourself have this. and see where it takes you.

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 12:48:04 PM   
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I can't really call myself a switch, but currently I can only consider topping.  I am still in love and in my heart I am committed to my ex, who was my dominant.  The thought of submitting to any other man is somewhat distasteful to me now. 
I WANT to want it, but I am unable, even to bottom to some other guy for now.  For now, being the last year and beyond.  So I top.  I top because it offers some gratification to have someone want me beyond measure.  I top because in an odd way it pacifies my need to serve someones needs.  I top because I am damned good at it.  I know what buttons to push, I know how to pay attention to reactions, I know what I would want.

I don't feel I will ever submit to another man, or even bottom to one.  But, I am not a switch.  I have not made that mental adjustment that depends on power.  For me, topping is simply service.
Trust me when I say I know what you feel.  I looked longingly over cliffs for months.  It does get easier to deal after a while.  He may have been my last dominant but really, I am ok with that.  I had the best experience in my life with him.  I wonder how many people can say that?  For our time together, I am grateful.  I can live on that for life.
Kyst

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 12:53:09 PM   
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PM'd you on the other side...

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 12:55:15 PM   
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I'm sorry your hurting this badly, my friend. If there is anything I can do to help you, you know where to find me.
*Hugs* I love you.



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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 1:11:57 PM   
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I too PMed you on the other side.

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 1:14:48 PM   
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Hi Prinsexx..

First, I'd like you to read my sig line. I believe in it with all my heart.

Also, and you already know this, but life is moments so fill your moments with as much happiness as you can, in whatever form that takes and you'll be successful in your life. If this is the moment to dom, then dom. If there comes a moment when you need something different, then do something different. You don't have to set anything in stone as the future remains forever mutable.

Carpe diem!

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 1:21:50 PM   
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I have no earth-shattering advice.  Just go with what your gut tells you.  If you feel you need this right now, then go for it.  I am so sorry to hear about the troubles you had in your last relationship, and it's understandable to not want to submit to another at this time.  Keep your mind & your heart open to possibilities in the future.  Best of luck & be well!

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 1:30:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

It feels like my final switch or quit the lifestyle.
Does anyone recognise this pattern?


Yes, I recognise this and understand it through experience. This is an all-or-nothing ultimatum that is common from people who are suffering a deep depression. Don't make ANY life altering decisions while you are in that state. (Same goes for a manic state.)

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 2:06:28 PM   
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I'm really sorry to hear what you have / are going through.
quote:

The worse shock was that he would only swing with those she wanted and found attractive and was quite content therefore to be submitted to her. That was the ibiggest shock.

I had a similar situation in a past poly relationship. She topped from the bottom, he allowed her too and boom it was over.
I remember feeling like i would never submit again, never give anyone that kind of power to hurt me again. I wanted all the power.
My only concern for what you have said would be that maybe you only feel right now you need to be the one in control, the one to have the power and as you heal you may change your mind.
So in short, don't make any rash decisions. Whatever decision you do make i wish you all the best and all the love you deserve.


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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 2:11:57 PM   
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I do think some female dominants are hurt slaves who were unwilling to be hurt by a dominant again.  I think the same is for some lesbians, who choose to be with women, because they were hurt terribly by men (and some gay men who are so because they were hurt by women, etc etc.) 

I think the choice to become someone different because you are hurt is, in part, adaptation.  I think if you're bending yourself too far in a direction you know you're not, you'll simply end up hurt and ultimately hurt the people who you bring into your life in further relationships.  If I became a male submissive because I was hurt by my slave, I would probably make my partner miserable because I would be forcing myself to be someone I am not.

The good side, is that life does go on.  It takes patience, personal courage, friends, and the occasional bowl of ice cream.

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 3:16:20 PM   
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Sometimes in crisis we find out who we really are.
Forget the role be yourself.
I wish you all the happiness in the world.

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 3:22:02 PM   
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Don't make any permanent decisions for a temporary problem.  And yes, as hard and as hurtful as this one is, it is a temporary problem.

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 3:41:23 PM   
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Seconded.

Hang in there, Princess. Sounds like this guy was a hell of a let-down- not to mention a nasty shock to the system. Someone better will come along soon.

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 3:42:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

Does anyone recognise this pattern?



Yeah....See it in almost every thread where someone comes out publicly to announce to the world how happy they are to only have it crash and burn.....A pattern...You ask?  It is the blueprint.

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 3:53:35 PM   
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Hi Prinsexx i am very sorry that you are going through a rough time and i hope you allow yourself the time to heal.

As for never being submissive to another, i would not be so sure. You were hurt badly causing the submissive side of you to retreat and your dominant side come to the forefront (i am kinda making it sound like you have split personalities here lol but that is not what i intend i assure you). Do what feels natural to you at the time and be safe.

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 3:56:32 PM   
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Dear Prinsexx,

I've wondered where you have been the past week or so. I know we haven't known each other long,but know that I feel so special that you have befriended me in my time of decisions.   Know that when we enter in to a state of despair it is very hard to make the "right" decision.  Please take your time......let alot of time pass by and then rethink what You want to do.... I know from experience that when you enter into a state of shock  a person is unable to make a decision never mind a good one!   so take a deep breathe......sit back.... and just reflect on yourself, what you want out of life and let time be your friend....

Hoping to hear from you soon!
Destiny

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 4:01:44 PM   
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I feel for you I really do i just do not know what to say that karma always comes to those people in a big way yep yep it is not good sends hugs

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RE: My final submission? - 11/26/2007 4:05:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Trust me when I say I know what you feel.  I looked longingly over cliffs for months.  It does get easier to deal after a while.  He may have been my last dominant but really, I am ok with that.  I had the best experience in my life with him.  I wonder how many people can say that?  For our time together, I am grateful.  I can live on that for life.
Kyst


Not to hijack, and I feel so badly for Prinsexx, but I found this entire paragraph heartbreakingly sad, while somewhat positive. I empathize totally with what you have said about your dominant and how it was the best experience in your life and agree that not many people even have something like that once.

But I do not agree that you should accept living on that for life; once the apple is bitten, nothing tastes as sweet.

My sig line tells it all and I will say this; just keep being open minded; I know how it is, I am still dealing with my feelings for my ex-Dom and how to compare what I had with what I might have in future, but I know I will never give up.

And Prinsexx, please do not make rash decisions based on being hurt; give it some time. There is no final decision to be made on anything in life, unless you are dead.

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