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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/17/2008 1:55:19 PM   
stripmymanhood


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Status: offline 		This definitely is a barrier i'm not sure i could cross...i'm not attracted to men...so kissing one full on the mouth would truly be forced bisexuality (of sorts)...suck a cock, sure...not a problem....get fucked in the ass...no problem....kiss a guy...ummm....no.

Of course, there was a time where sucking a cock and getting manfucked were limits also.

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

Many submissive men are willing to suck another man's cock, but how many are willing to kiss a man full on the mouth? As in -- making out.  I'd like to hear from subs who consider this a hard limit, but are willing to either:

* Suck a dildo/strap on and/or
* Suck a real cock

Do you think there are more submissive men with a limit of kissing the same sex on the mouth than female submissives?  Any female subs consider kissing another woman a hard limit, and why?

For both genders, if you are willing to do the act, does the physical appearance of the person you are made to kiss matter to you at all?  Are you more willing to do it if the person is considered attractive to you? If you were not able to choose the person or have input regarding their appearance, then what?

Akasha


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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/17/2008 2:07:27 PM   
daddysliloneds


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Status: offline 		regardless of the gender of person that i'm with, and regardless of the fact that i'm a very orally fixated person and love, love, love to give head, suck cock, strap-on's and what-not, if i'm not emotionally intimate with you, or wish to be, i'm not going to kiss you, which i'm sure is the way it goes of lots of people of either sex or sexual orientation!

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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/17/2008 2:19:24 PM   
scorpius80


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Status: offline 		Personally bisexual would be engaging in a sexual act with a man, so as far as sucking a mans penis it is totally different than sucking a strap on.  the person you are on your knees in front of is in a dominating position and aside for your Mistress having control they as well have control.  I find being dominated a turn on, but I refuse to be dominated by a man, or kiss a man, so in my mind I will deal with strap-on sucking and even taking it even if it does not feel great just for my Mistress, but involving a man to me is forced bi.  just my opinion.

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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/17/2008 2:58:57 PM   
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Does it suck any more for men than it does for women?

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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/17/2008 3:13:20 PM   
Tigrita


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Status: offline 		Bit of a variation on the topic, but I consider giving oral much more intimate than sex, I have to like the person a lot more to enjoy that.  It is in-your-face, it is skill based, and almost no one I've had a relationship with has been able to come from oral, so I wonder sometimes if I just suck at it (no pun intended), despite praise. 

Other answers and notes from a female, mostly straight (but with more than a little leeway), and mostly sub perspective:

I have no problem kissing or with breast or genital contact or oral in either direction with a female I'm attracted to.  If I was not attracted it would be more challenging and impersonal, but not a limit. 

I'd have more trouble kissing or anything else (most of all giving oral) with a man I wasn't attracted to than with any woman even though I'm mostly straight.  I guess I'm just more flexible (or at least forgiving) in my attraction to women, because a man has to be very dominant and at least somewhat physically imposing for me to be attracted.





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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/17/2008 5:46:07 PM   
Griswold


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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

Many submissive men are willing to suck another man's cock, but how many are willing to kiss a man full on the mouth? As in -- making out.  I'd like to hear from subs who consider this a hard limit, but are willing to either:

* Suck a dildo/strap on and/or
* Suck a real cock

Do you think there are more submissive men with a limit of kissing the same sex on the mouth than female submissives?  Any female subs consider kissing another woman a hard limit, and why?

For both genders, if you are willing to do the act, does the physical appearance of the person you are made to kiss matter to you at all?  Are you more willing to do it if the person is considered attractive to you? If you were not able to choose the person or have input regarding their appearance, then what?

Akasha



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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/17/2008 7:20:25 PM   
SilentTigresss


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Status: offline 		Wow, i have learned something from this "thread". i've always associated kissing with "sex". Perhaps just my own fantasy.
Thank you all

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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/17/2008 9:35:21 PM   
SubJordanTyler


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Status: offline 		I agree that it's a difference between being used and being intimate.  I'm not going to kiss a guy because that's an intimate act, and I have no attraction or desire to do that.  But I'd let them shove their cocks down my throat and cum down it and fuck me in the ass, because in that manner, I'm just being used.

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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/18/2008 1:03:09 AM   
Justme696


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ORIGINAL: SubJordanTyler

I agree that it's a difference between being used and being intimate.  I'm not going to kiss a guy because that's an intimate act, and I have no attraction or desire to do that.  But I'd let them shove their cocks down my throat and cum down it and fuck me in the ass, because in that manner, I'm just being used.


Why is it that people find their body not intimate? (this is not judging, just a question out of curiosity)

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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/18/2008 1:29:32 AM   
PhoenixRed


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Status: offline 		Thank you chia!  I needed that!

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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/18/2008 1:34:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
There is another angle here, and that is the reaction factor.  When they see that what they are doing is exciting Me, they in turn get more excited, which feeds into the action, which excites Me, so in turn..... you get where I'm going with this circle.
 
They may not be "into it" for their own sake, but doing it to please Me, whether it sexually excites Me or I am pleased with their submission, does add to the energy that's happening.  That's something that you can't get from watching the flicks. 


Exactly LadyPact!  That's what I've heard many male submissives say, and if they're actions do excite me it also feeds their excitement and they really get into it more.

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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/18/2008 1:58:13 AM   
PhoenixRed


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OK, guess it's time for an actual comment by me, since I take mostly bi male subs and know a lot of bi men.  I have heard a lot of the same sentiment expressed in some replies on this forum from men I know.... "I will suck a cock or be fucked, but kissing a man is gay".  I always wondered where that logic came from....where that little bit more of intimacy that kissing usually entails shoves a man from one orientation into another?  I understand that kissing, cuddling, more sensual acts that are usually expressed between men and women might be uncomfortable between two people of the same sex.  But kissing as a hard limit and sucking a cock is not?  That's a big leap! Just me, but does not compute.  Then again, many of the bi male partners we've had are into sensuality and it is incredibly erotic to me to watch 2 men interact in that way, being uninhibited and comfortable with their orientation. 

Kissing is intimate, but I couldn't bear not kissing my boys!  I love feeling them melt and hearing the sharp intake of breath and the shudders that happen when I grab the back of their head and kiss them.  I do have genuine affection for each of them.  Having them do the same with another man, though?  I've been told by some subs that it would be very uncomfortable and humiliating for them, but that it would also probably launch them into subspace immediately because humilition is what they crave (these boys are straight by orientation, but bi as subs).  For the subs that are bi by orientation, it may be either disconcerting or very exciting to be commanded to do this.  Some had thought this was going to be a huge problem for them, but now actually enjoy it, once they knew they would still be just as accepted as they were before, and that it did not change how I felt about them.  There is a HUGE spectrum and wide variety of comfort levels where bisexuality is involved.  I guess we all just have to know where our subs fall within that spectrum and decide on how to proceed with that knowledge in mind.

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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/18/2008 5:16:22 AM   
bipolarber


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Status: offline 		Generally, I don't kiss people unless I'm emotionally involved with them. Male or female, there needs to be a connection. I WILL play with just about anyone. I tend to look at it as "assisted masturbation" up to and including playful sex... but it's not the same as being full on "involved" with a partner.


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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/18/2008 5:42:04 AM   
solvr70


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

There is another angle here, and that is the reaction factor.  When they see that what they are doing is exciting Me, they in turn get more excited, which feeds into the action, which excites Me, so in turn..... you get where I'm going with this circle.
 
They may not be "into it" for their own sake, but doing it to please Me, whether it sexually excites Me or I am pleased with their submission, does add to the energy that's happening.  That's something that you can't get from watching the flicks. 


exactly! 100% on the mark and very challenging for me to explain during these types of discussions.

it's not about being bi, actually more exciting when one has no attraction to men on their own (in my case), but to do it to please and excite a Woman. the more excited She is by it the more intensely it would be exciting for me. that is the key, and true, not something you can get from watching the movies.

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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/19/2008 7:06:12 PM   
SubJordanTyler


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ORIGINAL: Justme696

quote:

ORIGINAL: SubJordanTyler

I agree that it's a difference between being used and being intimate.  I'm not going to kiss a guy because that's an intimate act, and I have no attraction or desire to do that.  But I'd let them shove their cocks down my throat and cum down it and fuck me in the ass, because in that manner, I'm just being used.


Why is it that people find their body not intimate? (this is not judging, just a question out of curiosity)


It's not that I don't find my body intimate.  It's just that I'm heavily into humilation and degredation, so it's about being used.  Kissing, to me, is intimate and not about being used.  But having someone shove their cock down my throat or in my ass and use me simply as a fuck toy/cum dump........to me, that's just being used and is humiliating and degrading..........so it's really in line with what I'm into.

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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/19/2008 7:14:18 PM   
Gwynvyd


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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

The Limits of cocksuckers?

Ohhhh i'd say about seven inches.

Though on a good day, i can take eleven.

Hmmm seven/eleven...open all night!

Just think creamsicle boys.

Should ya? Could ya? Wood ya? Not Even For Her?

With Love and Respect, chia* "what gag reflex" (the pet)


*giggles so hard she almost blows out an very infected eardrum*

I am too damn sick to laugh like that...

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RE: The limits of cocksuckers - 1/19/2008 7:32:06 PM   
Prinsexx


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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

Many submissive men are willing to suck another man's cock, but how many are willing to kiss a man full on the mouth? As in -- making out.  I'd like to hear from subs who consider this a hard limit, but are willing to either:

* Suck a dildo/strap on and/or
* Suck a real cock

Do you think there are more submissive men with a limit of kissing the same sex on the mouth than female submissives?  Any female subs consider kissing another woman a hard limit, and why?

For both genders, if you are willing to do the act, does the physical appearance of the person you are made to kiss matter to you at all?  Are you more willing to do it if the person is considered attractive to you? If you were not able to choose the person or have input regarding their appearance, then what?

Akasha


a The thread rally has seemed to go off on a skew about kissing wheeas i am gong to stick to cock sucking....
cocksucking to me is a service
and i like it when i feel it is resaaly needed...
Master is predominantly into it and connects with me most this way...i love the powert exchange as i know when he spunks in my mouth it is the perfect release for Hom and I debote myself to that....
He puts everything into that ejaculation and sleeps like a baby afterwards...deeply..and after that depp sleep sometime s ejculates a little more...so i try to stay with my mouth around Him like i am ciontaining his soul and the more ejaculate wll come as he drifts back into consciousness....it l\asts longer always than i think ot will and i like to rest ny head in hislap after He ha s cum....fore me it is the perfect moment of power exchange and i get edgy, thirsty and anxipous and need topping up......hios ejaculate is like ilk forbaby i would imagine,,,it is the way i serve Him best,,,,,,

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