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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/20/2007 3:44:45 PM   
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Don't tell me anyone is concerned about our health! This thread is all about bashing fat people and certain people wanting to decide for everyone what beauty is. And for the life of me, I cannot understand why it's so damned difficult for people to just let people be.


Because for many people, this is a fetish/fantasy web site where the come to enduldge.

Look MNN.... did it ever occur to you that some of the more vicious anti fat posts come from fat people posing as something else? That some BBW's who complain are masochists who thrive on the humiliation and put downs that follow their posts???

Why must you step on their kink? 


If your serious FDD i think you're stretching it a bit too far lol.  But who knows, nothing anyone wanted to indulge in would shock me.

i don't usually read or post in the "fat threads" but saw this and just thought i would add my .02 cents.  i am a fat woman, BBW, plus size woman, whatever term you want to identify with, makes no difference to me - i am still who i am.  i went to the docs recently for severe chest pain, thought ok, the weights caught up with you, your having a heart attack. EKg, stress test, echo cardiogram, blood work etc all done.  Was told i was out of shape aerobically, meaning my heart rate quickly rises when i exert myself but other then that i am fit as a fiddle - cholesterol good, no diabetes, no heart problems, although i do have HBP which i have been taking meds for for about 2 years now. The chest pain was from taking too much motrin - so i got the purple pill to cure the hole i probably made in my stomach.   i am fortunate and blessed and wonder if my continued good health is because i spent most of my teen years into late 20's being very athletic (running, swimming, weight lifting, martial arts)  i know tomorrow or next week, year etc these numbers can change and i will be in a world of trouble i might  not be able to reverse.  No one would wish themselves a weight problem, but life doesn't always deal you the cards you want.  i will loose weight, if for no other reason then i want to see my daughters grow up and give me grandchildren - i adore babies. They have never had an "average size mom" and i would like to give them that before i die.  They see pics of me when i was younger and when they tell me "wow mom you were so thin" tears come to my eyes, not because of self pity, but because i realize what i have deprived them of.  It will be a struggle as i have issues with pain, which makes exercise difficult but i will get there. 

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/20/2007 4:01:23 PM   
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Look MNN.... did it ever occur to you that some of the more vicious anti fat posts come from fat people posing as something else? That some BBW's who complain are masochists who thrive on the humiliation and put downs that follow their posts???


so FATdomdaddy, how did you come to that absurd domly assumption?


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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/20/2007 5:52:38 PM   
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Look MNN.... did it ever occur to you that some of the more vicious anti fat posts come from fat people posing as something else? That some BBW's who complain are masochists who thrive on the humiliation and put downs that follow their posts???


so FATdomdaddy, how did you come to that absurd domly assumption?



It's not absurd, it's the same idea as a lot of anti-gay people are in the closet in some way, shape or form.
They hate themselves so much they take it out on others of their kind.

Maybe not all BBW like to be fat sot hey hide their true selves (when they can) and when faced with a topic like this, that reminds them they are fat, they lash out.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/20/2007 6:08:38 PM   
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egads..........i try to resist replying and yet i cant......

i am a fat chick-i hate the bbw moniker, because all fat chicks are no more beautiful than all skinny chicks are......

i am working hard to get healthier.......i could work harder.....and some days i do......but i refuse to stop living or feel unworthy because i am fat.

my body is a strange place......not to lay the blame on genetics, but yet to lay the blame on genetics, i will share the following story.........

in the early 60's there was a woman, who was obese.....she had a little girl in 1960 and gave her up for adoption, she had another little girl in 1962 and gave her up for adoption also.  both of these girls were most fortunate to be given to families that were able to care for them and they found each other many years later when they were both in their 30's.

the woman finally got her head straight and married, which produced another lil girl, who was raised in a loving family, by this obese woman.

the 2 given up for adoption were raised by non fat people.

when these 3 girls met as adults, they were amazed that they all looked just like the biological mom.....as if no man was even involved in the conception-it is quite freaky to meet someone at 30 and have them be the only person you have ever seen that looked like you.

they were also amazed that they were all obese.  they began to talk and found out one lil thing that made them go hmmmmm........

the lil girl given up for adoption in 1960 was a size 14 until a year after having her first baby-within that time, she gained 100 pounds, even though none of her habits changed.

the lil girl raised by the obese woman who was the biological mom was a size 14 until she had her first baby at 18-within a year she had gained 100 pounds and none of her eating habits had changed.

and the lil girl given up in 1962(have you figured out thats me yet), was a size 14 until she had her only child, at the ripe old age of 25, and within a year of that event she(I) had gained 100 pounds, even though my diet didnt change, and having a baby i can assure you my physical activity increased.

none of us knew each other, all were raised in different enviroments, yet this happened.

is this an excuse? who knows..........i use it on the days it suits me .....when i am not beating me up for being weak............

my point, if you are still reading, is, genetics are a strange thing.  i have a friend who is so thin, she stays sick all the time.  she gets sick trying to find something with enough calories to add weight to her frame.

i go to the dr every year-my bp and my cholesterol are fine......i have found out i am pre-diabetic this year and that is something i am working even harder to get healthy to avoid.

i go dancing, and im damn good at it, i laugh and i cry, i wear a bathing suit in public(see profile pic if youre brave enough).

you say "bbw" is flaunting fat........as i said above, bbw is something i find dumb as hell.....i am a fat chick, you may be skinny, tall, short, or just right.

i dont understand what you mean by flaunting it-do you wish me to stay home and live in the dark and never subject you to seeing my fatness?

life is about choices-the first time you see me laughing with friends, while in my bathing suit, it may be something that shocks you(i also have a bikini-i like tan lines what can i say)

but after the first shocking image of omg how can someone fat like that "flaunt" and think they are attractive, you have a choice-dont look again.  most of the men i have dated since getting divorced did not date fat chicks before me.......thank goodness they saw me, not the shell i am in.  and some men prefer fat chicks.  i personally do not find blonde men attractive....we all have things that turn us on. and off.

and yes i know the extra weight is not healthy, and the pre diabetes shows me i am not a spring chicken anymore.  i will continue to work to become a healthier individual, because i need to do that for me.  but in the mean time, i will also continue to live and love, laugh and cry, and be a normal human being like you are.

i am one helluva awesome human being, and i pray that in your job within the health field, you dont ever have to interact with fat chicks.

lawd i may hate me in the morning, but this was so cleansing to type.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/20/2007 8:41:12 PM   
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Don't tell me anyone is concerned about our health! This thread is all about bashing fat people and certain people wanting to decide for everyone what beauty is. And for the life of me, I cannot understand why it's so damned difficult for people to just let people be.


Because for many people, this is a fetish/fantasy web site where the come to enduldge.

Look MNN.... did it ever occur to you that some of the more vicious anti fat posts come from fat people posing as something else? That some BBW's who complain are masochists who thrive on the humiliation and put downs that follow their posts???

Why must you step on their kink?



Damn, I knew I should've bet someone...b/c I just KNEW that you were gonna be the one to respond directly to my post with your usual snide remarks...

So, to answer your questions. No, that never occurred to me and what's more...I don't give a hoot whether it's a thin person or a fat person doing the bashing...it's still about the bashing...and it's still so old and ridiculous...and btw, if someone is using the message boards, as you are suggesting, to play out their self-humiliation scenes...well, they could let the rest of us in on it, so we know it's a demo and not something meant to offend those of us who get offended when we are being bashed and berated. See, I'm not into this type of scene and no one seems to be hearing my safe word or that of any other who has taken offense by this thread and others like it...Do ya get it yet, FatDomDaddy? If not, this is the point - those of us who are fat get it...we hear you, world...some of you don't dig us or think that we can be beautiful and some of you don't think we have a right to call ourselves beautiful or consider ourselves beautiful. Some of you feel that just because you find some of us to be fat, ugly and repulsive that that means we should agree...And that, my dear world, is simply incorrect. It does not matter what some of you think. If a person chooses to use the term BBW to describe herself, it only matters that she regards herself as beautiful. What gives anyone the right to even suggest that a person should not use the term BBW just because they do not regard them as such? Seriously. Whatever happened to beauty and the eye of the beholder?

Additionally, I will again state, as I think I did on some other fat thread - I find it interesting that these fat threads constantly target women...to demean us. There is also another acronym out that I never hear anyone complain about...that is BHM...Big Handsome Men. It seems that it's okay for that acronym to be used to describe fat man...but apparently what's good for the gander is not good for the goose...the fat goose, that is.

And I'll lay odds that you're gonna come back with some more of your snide remarks. So fire away. Knock yourself out.

MNN

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/20/2007 8:59:31 PM   
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"...if someone is using the message boards, as you are suggesting, to play out their self-humiliation scenes...well, they could let the rest of us in on it, so we know it's a demo and not something meant to offend those of us who get offended when we are being bashed and berated."


Ummmm...

Maybe because they owe you nothing. It's their kink and you have the ability to BLOCK their posts. So really...let them offend and get off at will.

I think you keep forgetting that this is a FREE open forum on a website that deals with fetish and fantasy. And as such MNN, you FREE not to read those things that offend you.

No go and collect your bet.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/20/2007 9:47:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

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"...if someone is using the message boards, as you are suggesting, to play out their self-humiliation scenes...well, they could let the rest of us in on it, so we know it's a demo and not something meant to offend those of us who get offended when we are being bashed and berated."


Ummmm...

Maybe because they owe you nothing. It's their kink and you have the ability to BLOCK their posts. So really...let them offend and get off at will.

I think you keep forgetting that this is a FREE open forum on a website that deals with fetish and fantasy. And as such MNN, you FREE not to read those things that offend you.

No go and collect your bet.




LOL! You're consistent, if nothing else. That's exactly what I expected you to post, as you always seem to miss the point.

There comes a point when free speech goes a bit too far, FDD. Maybe that's something you just don't understand. Too bad. With freedom comes responsibility. So a person chooses to exercise their freedom of speech and say horrible, offensive things to and/or about an individual or a group of individuals. And a person who is a member of the target group then has a right to respond to the offense and call it what it is in hopes that someone out there is going to eventually hear her and maybe change their behavior accordingly. You know, take responsibility for their actions... That maybe, just maybe someone out there actually has a conscious and will come to realize how their actions affect others and maybe will decide to stop engaging in acts that might be potentially hurtful to others. Is that so difficult to understand? Is it really?

Free and open forum doesn't mean you should behave reprehensibly.

Yup...won the bet!!

MNN

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/20/2007 9:55:46 PM   
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I am sorry MNN but you are one of the BBW mafia types that ridicules and bitches about any thread that deals or tries to deals with weight issues, no matter how frank and honest those posts are. You put the post and the posters down right from the start.  And the victim cries are getting old as well.  

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/20/2007 10:33:39 PM   
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I am sorry MNN but you are one of the BBW mafia types that ridicules and bitches about any thread that deals or tries to deals with weight issues, no matter how frank and honest those posts are. You put the post and the posters down right from the start. And the victim cries are getting old as well.


And again I have to laugh!! LOL!

If this thread or any other like it were actually dealing with weight issues, that would be one thing. But this one, like most of the fat threads on this site, is about size-ism and looks-ism, in my most humble opinion, "Sir," I don't see that as a weight issue. I see that as an issue of bigotry and prejudice. And I'm really sorry that you can't see that. Hopefully, others will.

Your move.


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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/20/2007 11:03:32 PM   
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I am an obese woman. I call it like it is. I have been thin and i am now fat. The women in my family tend to be big. My grandmother was the size of a refrigerator. My mom decided to eat like a bird and stay the same weight she was on her wedding day. When I eat less food, go on a diet I constantly feel sick. I feel lousy to be honest.
Due to high blood pressure I decided to lose weight. I have lost 35 lbs so far. I have 100+ more to go. I have a sibling that exercises a lot, every day she walks 2 miles or more, goes swimming or to the gym. She is 180 lbs. She cannot get below that weight no matter what she does. Society is sad that they judge people for being overweight, a sub, slave, or Dom/me (lifestylers are perverts!) type of mentality.  It doesn't matter to me what You look like what matters to me is character, integrity, & honesty. I am also in the health field.
I have heard it all the "nice" comments and stares from people. I think that when people are lacking something in their life they feel they can make fun of others, be snide etc. I think we should be all tolerant no matter what your size, shape, looks, color or "lifestyle" is. As for me i will continue trying to lose more weight.
Being on the other side of the coin we have a society that see's thin models and push beauty and fashion on our younger population. We have a society that binges, purges, bulimia etc. That isn't healthy either. Neither is the large population  that is continuing to grow and get bigger. Are there people that are BBW's that are healthy yes there are. There are even thin people that are walking around with heart disease and a heart attack waiting to happen. Basically U get what your genetics, life experiences and how you treat yourself thrown into the mix. All you can do is try your best at what you can be. Obese or thin be happy with who you are and what U do.
i saw this quote and i don't know where it comes from." A Life not Lived is not a life at all".

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/20/2007 11:09:53 PM   
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Try www.bbwvibe.com

It seems to be for larger women


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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/20/2007 11:18:33 PM   
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I thought about putting this in the health and safety area but figured I would get a better response here. I do not wish to offend anyone or have people think that I only envision real woman as 90lb supermodels. As a person who works in the healthcare industry I am appalled that someone could even be more than 100lbs over their ideal body weight let alone think it was something to flaunt. For those of you that belive the term BBW applies to a voluptuous full figured woman I have no problems with you and can understand the application of the term.

I guess I have lit the fire and look forward to your responses



Total crap. You healthcare industry? Herbalife by any chance?

The real title of this thread should be am I okay to be a fascist? Is it okay for me to be a body fascist? Should BODY FASCISM be encouraged in society?

Or how about the real issue - since you don't mention obese men - why can't I get laid? How come all these fat ugly women won't touch me with a bargepole? Isn't that the real issue?

Okay, so being overweight isn't your thing, nor is it your issue, but it appears your issue is working out the difference between mouth, brain and a**hole and you don't appear to be succeeding.

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I know that as a society we have a problem with obesity and I want to preclude all those who will respond with..... a little overweight or a little larger. This is for the 350lb individual that should be seeking major medical help not walking around thinking this makes them attractive



Writing as a transsexual female who's gone down from 460lbs to just under 300lbs within a year let me tell you you don't know jack shit.

As a society we don't have a problem with obesity, we have a problem with attitudes to obesity. And it seems pretty much to me that we've got a medical profession that also has major problems with dealing with obesity.

Well let me tell you that the weight gain was as a result of problems with hormone therapy, my weight ballooned and yes - I was seeking 'major' medical help, which never really turned out to be more than leaflets on dieting, weight control and being told to 'eat a healthy diet' - oh, and a month of fat blockers and water tablets.

I sought major medical help at 320lbs, at 360lbs, at 400lbs, at 460lbs and all the way through until recently and do you know what? You can go and f**k your major medical help - my metabolism is still shot, I'm suffering from hair loss (I'm losing facial hair without being on hormones) but I am losing weight and I'm doing it ON MY OWN.

I'm just under 6ft tall, I'm now just under 300lbs, heading towards 220lbs (for surgery), I'm always going to be big and chunky.

I don't need the approval or lack of it from people like you, people who haven't matured or grown up and who are still mentally 13 years old and think physical beauty is tied up with body size.

You claim to be 'appalled'. How old are you? And you mean to say you've got this far in life and you're still appalled at fat people? I don't know where you get this idea that such women 'flaunt it' or see that their body size is attractive, you must be reading too many colour magazines. Or more likely you are still mentally 12 years old.

If you really don't like the way someone looks and it really bothers you (though I can't think why) then you can turn away, you can walk away, you can even close your eyes.

FDD got it wrong. I say you started this thread to get the BBWs all upset and get all the other body fascists on CM to post so you could start feeling morally superior to compensate for the fact that you simply just cannot get shagged.

And this isn't because you don't like fat women, but because no woman is going to fall for a guy with the mentality of a 12 year old.

But like I wrote earlier, the problem in society isn't obesity but attitudes and prejudices towards obesity which is why this thread is going to go beyond 20 pages.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/21/2007 1:33:41 AM   
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I hate it when people "ass"ume that people who are large just sit around and eat all day....that's so not true. I have friends who wear a size 0 who sit around and eat all day so go figure. I work atleast 30 hours a week, I only sleep 3-5 hours a night- do my housecleaning in my apartment then clean my ex's place...i'm always on the go with with my hormonal problems, thyroid, etc etc..I have difficulty losing weight but I am trying. I was once well over 300 pounds and now I am almost 230 pounds and I am 5'8 1/2....

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/21/2007 10:09:57 AM   
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Be who you are and what you are.  Embrase it, face it dreal with it.  It's YOUR situation (fat or thin). If your main issue is trying to get the world to give total acceptance by constantly getting in peoples faces, you defeat your purpose, for people will find YOU irritating regardless of your issues.  In the end, we all just have to live with ourselves and where ever we go, there we will be.  The bottom line - when you love yourself, no one else can take that away from you.   If your happiness depends on on others opinion or acceptance, you will never be happy. 

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/21/2007 10:17:13 AM   
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Try www.bbwvibe.com

It seems to be for larger women



Yes, thanks for the link. Truly. And there are lots of other such sites around the web. The problem is that it's not particularly kink-focused. Which is why those of us who have found CM stick around. We like the kink-focus. Just not the fat-bashing.
(And it being free-of-charge is a nice little perk as well.)


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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/21/2007 10:25:58 AM   
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If your main issue is trying to get the world to give total acceptance by constantly getting in peoples faces, you defeat your purpose, for people will find YOU irritating regardless of your issues.


Wow, this I have to reply to...because I guess if people really bought into this attitude then neither women or blacks would have the right to vote, blacks would still be put in jail for marrying whites, and LGBT people would still be stuck in the closet...and organizations like NCSF (National Coalition for Sexual Freedom) would just be wasting their time trying to advocate for our sexual rights and freedoms.

Sometimes getting in people faces is the only way to get them to hear what you have to say. And the fight against bigotry, in whatever form it takes and wherever it's found, is well worth fighting, IMO.


MNN


But don't put much stock in what I have to say, since I'm just a BBW Mafiosa.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/21/2007 10:51:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressNoName

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If your main issue is trying to get the world to give total acceptance by constantly getting in peoples faces, you defeat your purpose, for people will find YOU irritating regardless of your issues.


Wow, this I have to reply to...because I guess if people really bought into this attitude then neither women or blacks would have the right to vote, blacks would still be put in jail for marrying whites, and LGBT people would still be stuck in the closet...and organizations like NCSF (National Coalition for Sexual Freedom) would just be wasting their time trying to advocate for our sexual rights and freedoms.

Sometimes getting in people faces is the only way to get them to hear what you have to say. And the fight against bigotry, in whatever form it takes and wherever it's found, is well worth fighting, IMO.


MNN


But don't put much stock in what I have to say, since I'm just a BBW Mafiosa.


One can do nothing about their race or gender.  I think what she is saying is "choose your battles" or accept yourself. 

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/21/2007 11:20:18 AM   
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One can do nothing about their race or gender. I think what she is saying is "choose your battles" or accept yourself.



I think I got what she was saying.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/21/2007 11:30:14 AM   
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One can do nothing about their race or gender. I think what she is saying is "choose your battles" or accept yourself.



I think I got what she was saying.

MNN


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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 6/21/2007 12:52:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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ORIGINAL: MistressNoName

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One can do nothing about their race or gender. I think what she is saying is "choose your battles" or accept yourself.



I think I got what she was saying.

MNN


If you took offense, you didn't.


Pardon me, Lotus, but in fact I did get what she said, which is why I responded as I did. Here's the thing...this issue has got nothing to do or should have nothing to do with whether one is able to or desires to change anything about one's self. What I responded to was the idea that "getting in someone's face" is somehow not a valid method for getting one's point across. It very much IS a valid method whether or not it irritates someone else. Additionally, anyone who feels they need to has the right to stand up for themself and what they believe in...and thank God there have been people in the past who felt that way, too. So, you see, the battle I'm choosing is to stand against fat-bashing and bigotry. And I see nothing wrong with that.

And just so I am clear, I take offense of this thread and all others like it that perpetuate and validate a sense that it's okay to ridicule, bash, prejudge, etc and tell fat people whether they may or may not, should or should not consider themselves to be beautiful just because this society holds a certain standard of beauty that most women couldn't fit into if they held guns to our heads.

So, yeh...I got it.


MNN


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