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What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/19/2007 11:10:27 PM

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These boards are full of slaves who still search for an Owner and have had no success in finding one.

Obviously there are ways they can improve either in their search, behaviour, slave application techniques, and training.

I highly recommend slaves receive training in order to learn what areas they might need improvement and to get helpful advice on how to overcome these barriers so they can finally reach their goal of being an owned slave.

What other suggestions and advice do you have for lost unowned slaves?

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/19/2007 11:16:55 PM

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Just because one is unowned doesnt mean they are lost!!

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/19/2007 11:42:01 PM

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Thinks ownership cuts both ways, and the word is "dynamic" which cannot be learned. Another set of words is are "love and respect" for the Owner and slave whose collar any slave/submissive may accept. Most of are particular, if the So called Dominant does not meet expectations then do you really think that the unowned slaves/submissives would be wise to seek their collar? There are many HNG's on sites like this. Or, looking at your handle and web address, are you hoping to drum up business?

What qualification do you have, that makes you post on a public board that slaves without owners are lost? Do you hold the mysterious map?

Good luck trolling ... in another patch.

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/19/2007 11:52:06 PM

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*shakes head in dismay* Your efforts are noble, but in truth very little can be taught to a slave that will apply to all situations. Besides many masters enjoy the process of 'training' their slave and would be disappointed to lose that bonding time.

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/19/2007 11:59:06 PM

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hopes that Masque66 is not shaking his head at this girl, since she is shaking her head in the OP's post.

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 12:14:32 AM

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No, they are just mislead by shallow money grubbing assholes that lie cheat and steal to get their money. I have no problem with pro-dommes who offer solid services to those who cannot avail athemselves of a real relationship but the sort of bullshit training you offer is only designed to take money from people and leave them no better and just poorer than when they began.

Shame on you!

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 12:18:20 AM

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greetings Michael Sir,

well said!

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 12:21:30 AM

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Greetings Master Michael,

May fairer second that!

well wishes ~ fairer

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 12:36:13 AM

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quote:

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No, they are just mislead by shallow money grubbing assholes that lie cheat and steal to get their money. I have no problem with pro-dommes who offer solid services to those who cannot avail athemselves of a real relationship but the sort of bullshit training you offer is only designed to take money from people and leave them no better and just poorer than when they began.

Shame on you!

Hello SimplyMichael. Do you realise you have been approved by mystiquenz which was seconded by fairerthanshe? Is there something going on that I do not know about?
I hear mr Lagavulin calling...got to go! RL.

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 1:08:53 AM

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AcademyForSlaves....what a lovely public service message. Thanks soooooo much for posting this . It was by far, the best laugh I had all week. Feel free to crawl back into your hole now, damn cockroach.

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 1:20:21 AM

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whispers to Robertolapiedra Sir,
did You not know that Master Michael has a fan club Sir?

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 2:16:37 AM

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Oh happy happy joy joy... Alrighty now...

I just hate well trained slave sales pitch... It's a fallacy! A slave has been trained to what measure and standards in the ways of what? Old Guard, Gorean, New School, Play School or perhaps even in the Jedi Arts?

It's so fucking laughable because what pleases one master will displease another! It's a case by case one on basis. Now in terms of my own preferences I'm too damn Dom to even conform to Old Guard or even Gor! I want it my way and not according to somebody else preconcieved or outlined doctrine of what a slave should do and be.

Some people need to set their crack pipe down and step away from it. I will debate and disagree with great passion regarding the merits of "slaves previous training" vs. "training done by current owner".

I tend to not buy into stereotypes or mindlessly adapt to mass mindset of things. A previously well trained slave means what to me? Somebody I have to retrain to suit my own tastes, needs and wants anyways. How the fuck does the AcademyForSlaves knows how to train a slave for me.   And if I expect something different than what the AcademyForSlaves taught a slave how will the slave cope and deal with it. OH lord, this is almost too laughable.

First and foremost I want to know a prospective slave as the real person they really are, and not have them putting on some conditioned mask or act according to how they have been trained.   I don't want them to call me Sir or Master... I don't want to have any of the high level protocal bullshit going on while I get to know a prospective slave.   If I can't get to know them as a human being regardless of the amount of training, it's not worth it.   I tend to question how much smoke a prospective slave is trying to blow up my ass when Calling me Sir or Master and acting all slavey.

My number one piece of advice for any slave seeking a master is to be honest and communicate.  Everything else boils down to how much of a bullshit one can put on to impress a prospective Master/Mistress/Dom/Domme.. whatever title you can hang upon it. I am assuming that these are TPE slaves we are talking about and not PPE submissives right.

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 3:52:30 AM

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Greetings ,

I must answer this in this way .AS I see so many people on CM that are young and lod to say they are slave . And yet have No concept as to what it is to be slave . To me it is to get out of the Fantasy and get in R/l. Tell what does a slave that is 18 19 20 21 22 23 and so on , know what a slave really is ? Tis the only way I can answer this thread . To all the slaves good luch in your search .

MasterStoney442

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 5:03:26 AM

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Greetings ,

I must answer this in this way .AS I see so many people on CM that are young and lod to say they are slave . And yet have No concept as to what it is to be slave . To me it is to get out of the Fantasy and get in R/l. Tell what does a slave that is 18 19 20 21 22 23 and so on , know what a slave really is ? Tis the only way I can answer this thread . To all the slaves good luch in your search .

MasterStoney442

so does that mean on september 28th this year i will suddenly stop being a pretender and actually "realise" what being a slave really is? a clue will arrive in the post will it? .. some sort of certificate perhaps?

I am 23, i would argue that i have a very good idea of what it is to be a slave, that will develop and evolve as i gain experience, nothing will change because of my age.

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 5:44:08 AM

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I believe the original question was;
What should a slave do to become owned?
Now the problem is how to answer this question. Everyone has their own answer to this question, so what can be added to make the answer palletable.
IMHO a potential slave should first decide the area of this extemely diverse lifestyle that s/he wants to explore. Is s/he more comfortable with service only, they wish to be used as a serice slave only. Cleaning, cooking, pampering a Dominant with little or no expectation of reward other than providing the service. Does s/he seek a Dominant/submissive relationship, one in which the slave expects to be used in ways other than service? Sex slave, breeding slave, cow (lactating only, not used for breeding). Is s/he a painslut and wish to be used as such?
Once the potential slave has answered these questions and decided on a course of slavery then s/he can begin seeking a Dominant with these qualities. Now comes the really very hard part. Realising that the submissive/slave picks the Dominant, not the other way round. What criteria should be used for picking the Dom for a potential sub/slave is open to a wide variety of discussion, but first should be, does the Dom fit the criteria of the sub/slave. Is the Dom a sadist and the sub/slave only seeking service submission/slavery? I doubt this will be a good match as neither will be satisified with the other. One piece of advice for a potential sub/slave, and for the Doms as well, ask for references. Then call the references, speak with them, then ask the references for references and speak with them. Find out if you know of anyone in the lifestyle that they know as well and can comment on them and their role in this lifestyle.
OK, now you and the potential Dominant have reach a comfort zone and are ready to proceed, take a breathe, step back and begin "the courtship." Remember, safety and trust must flow both ways. you as the sub/slave have found the Dom which is perfect for you and wish to be owned by them. What now? Once the sub/slave has offered their submission/slavery to the Dom it is up to both of them to agree on the ground rules. Is this to be a monogamas relationship, an open relationship, or a poly house. Both must agree on the rules of engagement and be ready to not only be thrilled, but be prepared to be disappointed as well.
OK. The Dom has offered ownership. What now? Does the sub/slave immediately become collared and is used as a collared slave? There are several schools of thought on this, but mine is. . . NO! Once the sub/slave has been offered ownership, s/he must now earn the collar that will be offered. Earn it how? By adhereing to the criteria set up in the negotiations. It is the Doms job to learn and know the sub/slaves hard limits. I have heard so many time, "I don't believe a slave should have limits." that it makes me kringe. A Dom and slave need to have limits in order to know and understand where the relationship will go. I like to use the simple ones, nothing illegal (anything that will land the sub/slave or myself in jail or prison) and no death/dismemberment. Earning the collar begins with a training collar offered after several months of training( I like to use three months as a standard), with the permenant collar offered after six to twelve months of training. I do not use online collars as I am not able to adequately supervise the training. A sub/slave must be willing to at least relocate to the area I'm living in and serve me in the way I see fit. If that means bringing his/her family (husband/wife and children) to the area that's fine.
Finally, to me, a sub/slave earning a collar is something very akin to marriage with even more deep emotional attachment between the sub/slave and Dom.

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 5:52:59 AM

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Well, yes you might actually receive something in the post. That is if you first go to slavefarm.com and register yourself as a slave and receive your very own slave registeration.

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 6:38:01 AM

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Slave "training" is not what I've perceived most dominants are looking for. Quite the opposite, I've seen doms reject anyone whom they perceive as having had this sort of training, as it makes the slave appear to be less open and pliable than when they began. All of the good doms I've been with felt they had to do more work to undo someone else's training than they would have had to do to train the submissive in the first place.

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 6:39:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: AcademyForSlaves

These boards are full of slaves who still search for an Owner and have had no success in finding one.

Obviously there are ways they can improve either in their search, behaviour, slave application techniques, and training.

I highly recommend slaves receive training in order to learn what areas they might need improvement and to get helpful advice on how to overcome these barriers so they can finally reach their goal of being an owned slave.

What other suggestions and advice do you have for lost unowned slaves?

go slow and don't fall for the bull shit that abounds

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 6:40:55 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AcademyForSlaves

These boards are full of slaves who still search for an Owner and have had no success in finding one.

Obviously there are ways they can improve either in their search, behaviour, slave application techniques, and training.

I highly recommend slaves receive training in order to learn what areas they might need improvement and to get helpful advice on how to overcome these barriers so they can finally reach their goal of being an owned slave.

What other suggestions and advice do you have for lost unowned slaves?

contrary to popular belief, not all unowned slaves are lost, need training, behavior modification, etc....

we just need a vaster and better selection of people to choose from for ownership! so my advice would be, stay true to yourself and your own values, even if that means staying unowned for a while, or even a lifetime

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RE: What should a slave do to become owned? - 5/20/2007 6:41:24 AM

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I just hate well trained slave sales pitch... It's a fallacy! A slave has been trained to what measure and standards in the ways of what? Old Guard, Gorean, New School, Play School or perhaps even in the Jedi Arts?

It's so fucking laughable because what pleases one master will displease another!

I agree. It is laughable to think that one person can train a sub for another. I will never understand this thinking. Nonsense.

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