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Action -> Do you like learning? (5/21/2007 9:04:59 PM)

On a previous thread in the Mistress forum I mentioned a knitting book I'd gotten, and some of the lovely modern and adorable outfits like stockings, undergarments that it has in the book, and it brought me to this question.

How much would you like learning a craft or skill (example: like knitting, ect) for your Master/Mistress?

I know I would just <3 a sub that had the patience to learn the lengthy process of knitting, but also do it on thier own happly knowing they'd be dressing me up as I like to do (a particular fetish of mine, not in reguards to all Doms) and eagerly look forward to finding a new project on thier own along the same lines.





mercurialis -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/21/2007 9:14:30 PM)

If it was phrased as, "would you learn this for me?" I would be somewhat uncertain. I'd rather learn for bettering myself, and having a particular skill be a suggestion for that purpose that my owner would support and encourage. Learning it so I can make things for someone else takes out some of the enjoyment of it for me, and could feel a bit like being used just because I happen to have a certain skill.

However, if that learning perhaps was worked into part of the interaction I would have with a dom, as a way for me to bond with them, then I think I'd probably jump at the chance.




juliaoceania -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/21/2007 9:21:30 PM)

quote:

How much would you like learning a craft or skill (example: like knitting, ect) for your Master/Mistress?

 
I do not mind learning new things at all, and enjoy learning immensely. Right now I am learning to drive because of my Daddy, although I am doing it for myself as much as I am doing it for him





dawntreader -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/21/2007 10:02:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Action

How much would you like learning a craft or skill (example: like knitting, ect) for your Master/Mistress?



i honestly would love it, would do it and have done it ... it is a beautiful act of submission ~
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Kitte9 -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/21/2007 10:07:43 PM)

I would enjoy learning something new that would please my Domme.




sublizzie -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/21/2007 11:11:42 PM)

I already have good cooking skills but I am constantly learning more about the fine art of good cuisine, foods of different time periods, foods of different cultures, various types of food service and other things that enhance my worth to the Dominants in my group. I would think that being entrusted with learning a new skill set could be exciting.




ennaozzie -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/21/2007 11:35:49 PM)

When i was with my Dominant (my my then husband) when i had a child he took two weeks of work to teach me how to look after the child so he could be sure when he got home from work there would still be a baby there lol, my learning from him started before that and continued after that, but to actual skills yes i would love to learn more, i think each new skill learnt can never be a bad thing, when it comes to every day things or school/uni/course education.  Yes i would learn a new skill if i thought it would better myself and please my Dominant.




Politesub53 -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/22/2007 1:40:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kitte9

I would enjoy learning something new that would please my Domme.


I fully agree. The look of pride and joy from someone who knows you have learned something, just to please them, is priceless.
Plus you have a new string to your bow, so to speak.
[;)]




dummey -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/22/2007 4:56:49 AM)

I would personally love the experience. It's a functional and practical form of submission along with being kinda romantic.




Celeste43 -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/22/2007 5:36:19 AM)

I like him teaching me things. I don't think I'd have as much sincere interest if he just said, find a course on this and learn it. But him teaching me things, letting me ask questions and be able to ask him to repeat steps I don't understand - certainly.

I wouldn't feel comfortable holding up a whole class because I couldn't grasp something so in that kind of situation I would probably become quiet and accept the fact that I wouldn't learn anything and had wasted money signing up for it.




darkinshadows -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/22/2007 5:45:37 AM)

Depends - learning a skill at a dominants request is sheer poetic beauty and learning a new skill is good for oneself- but I might fall short if my dominant desired me to learn how to hunt, kill, gut and skin a rabbit, small deer or something similar.[;)]




AquaticSub -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/22/2007 6:01:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Action

On a previous thread in the Mistress forum I mentioned a knitting book I'd gotten, and some of the lovely modern and adorable outfits like stockings, undergarments that it has in the book, and it brought me to this question.

How much would you like learning a craft or skill (example: like knitting, ect) for your Master/Mistress?

I know I would just <3 a sub that had the patience to learn the lengthy process of knitting, but also do it on thier own happly knowing they'd be dressing me up as I like to do (a particular fetish of mine, not in reguards to all Doms) and eagerly look forward to finding a new project on thier own along the same lines.




Depends on the craft and how encouraging Valyraen was.




Calandra -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/22/2007 7:16:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mercurialis

If it was phrased as, "would you learn this for me?" I would be somewhat uncertain. I'd rather learn for bettering myself, and having a particular skill be a suggestion for that purpose that my owner would support and encourage. Learning it so I can make things for someone else takes out some of the enjoyment of it for me, and could feel a bit like being used just because I happen to have a certain skill.

However, if that learning perhaps was worked into part of the interaction I would have with a dom, as a way for me to bond with them, then I think I'd probably jump at the chance.


You'll have to take My word that I'm not attacking you, rather that I am attacking an idea that you put forth....
 
If someone claims to want to serve Me. If they offer their body, heart, mind and soul to Me, then I feel I have the right to ask then to learn something for Me. Their interest in the subject may or may not be there, that's not the issue. Not everything I ask of them will be tailor made to suit them.
 
I am one of those people who loves education, both for Myself and for those I serve. I have expected a slave to gain skill in many different things, and for many different reasons. Some examples:
 
I love performing arts. I once had a slave who was a country boy who looked down his nose on all that "high brow stuff". I began giving him assignments about composers, dancers, various operas and ballets, etc. I made sure to vary the material, from the very old to the most modern. I highlighted drama, comedy,  satire, etc. He came to understand the arts and to ultimately make them a passion in his own life. The benefits to Me? I gained a well-rounded slave AND an enthusiastic escort and conversational partner. The benefits to him? A well-rounded life and he lost the judgemental attitude about things that were new to him.
 
My cubby used to spew the worst political rhetoric. He would offer his opinion on almost any topic, blaming the president or stating law that supported his ideas. Most of it was handed to him on CNN. I told him that there were flaws in his reasoning. I didn't take issue with his opinions, just the supporting "facts" he'd use. I purchased a "US Government for Dummies" book and assigned a chapter a week, complete with a written or oral report about what he had learned. He finished the book at two chapters a week! I then told him that I required that he register to vote and be prepared to tell Me WHO he was voting for, and WHY. The boy actually did so well that he ended up changing MY mind about who I was voting for! He researched voting records and platforms, and gave Me concise resources that I could check for Myself. He also started analyzing his comments for flaws and began making much more sense when he did enter a political conversation. Benefits to Me? A much more well-rounded boy, and newfound respect for his abilities to see situations and the possible solutions to them. Benefits to him? A well-rounded life and the ability to help shape his future as a citizen. He also has a lot more confidence simply because he is speaking his own thoughts, rather than mimicking someone else's.
 
I often expect a slave to learn to cook, even though I do 95% of the cooking and shopping. I expect them to have hobbies, and to always be expanding their knowledge and experience.
 
Are the skills always used in service to Me? No... but they do make them better people, increasing their value to Me. The idea you put forth about "being used" has no merit since a sub/slave is My property, they are THERE to be used.




badkittyamy -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/22/2007 7:28:09 AM)

Yep I don;t know by now at 21 I have already put forth effort to learn things I have a personal vested interest in so it's not necessarily likely that something my Lady would want to teach me is something i 'eagerly' eant to learn. HOWEVER, if She wanted me to learn it i would enjoy learning it simply because she wants me to.

A good example is something i'm currently doing, getting my driver's liscence. i HATE driving, but my Lady qualifies for disability and with the meds she takes sometimes she can't drive. With Her husband in Iraq i need to be able to drive Her if She needs it. So yes I am learning something i in no way wish to learn, but am enjoying because it makes Her happy.




Calandra -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/22/2007 7:40:30 AM)

Exactly!
 
So many sub/slaves seem to think that things are easy for the Dominant, and that all the effort is expended by them... They worry about "being used" or only learning skills they already want to learn, etc...
 
Chances are, if I were your Mistress, I'd expect you to learn to drive as well... not to benefit Me, to benefit YOU! I healthy, self-sufficient slave is one who remains by My side because they WANT to be there, not because they have no life skills and therefore no choices.
 
Your unselfish attitude about driving your Lady is commendable and one to be emulated.




imthatacheyouhav -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/22/2007 7:44:02 AM)

I would relish learning a new skill for Master...i also looking forward to learning from Him as well...i know i have much i could learn from Him.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/22/2007 7:44:15 AM)

I don't think I'd love to become a dog trainer or a waste disposal worker or a lawyer...but I'd understand if a master required that of their slave.

I know there's a lot of power in doing something "for the master" which makes the thing itself into something great and wonderful no matter what one's personal feelings are towards it- but I think there's still only so far it can go.  Like going poly- too many subs push themselves to enjoy it because it's what the master wants and everyone ends up distraught and very damaged because of it.




astarri -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/22/2007 7:55:10 AM)

I love to learn and often seek out new learning experiences, so I would be happy to learn something he wanted me to provided it was within my moral belief system. As someone already pointed out, hunting... I would not learn to kill an animal becuase it would make me too sad in spirit. I would learn to shoot though if he wanted me to despite not actually wanting to learn to do so. 




Calandra -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/22/2007 7:58:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I don't think I'd love to become a dog trainer or a waste disposal worker or a lawyer...but I'd understand if a master required that of their slave.

I know there's a lot of power in doing something "for the master" which makes the thing itself into something great and wonderful no matter what one's personal feelings are towards it- but I think there's still only so far it can go.  Like going poly- too many subs push themselves to enjoy it because it's what the master wants and everyone ends up distraught and very damaged because of it.


I can see your point. I think that I was speaking of specific skill sets though...  Training for a career of some kind (like the examples you posed) encompasses much more than the scope of what I was addressing. Becoming a lawyer is a huge and varied undertaking that incorporates MANY skill sets, whereas learning specific laws pertaining to something like opening a business, or perhaps the rights of renters in a certain location would be understandable. I breed dogs (boxers). If I were to expect My slave to learn to groom a specific breed so he/she could be useful in helping Me in My business, I don't think thats unreasonable.
 
I posed examples that caused the sub/slave to broaden either a useable skill, or to broaden their thinking on various subjects, causing them to be more well-rounded.
 
I also understand your comment on poly... I so TOTALLY agree. Once again though, I don't see being poly as a skill... I see that as a basic nature or orientation. I think that successfully being poly TAKES skills, but thats different. Okay, I'm gonna go do some research so I can perhaps examine how your comments change what I was already thinking....
 
 




slaveish -> RE: Do you like learning? (5/22/2007 10:11:50 AM)

I love the challenge. When Master gives me tasks, there is a great sense of accomplishment in striving and trying my best, because I know that even when he does not appear to be watching, he is, and approving of the attempt (he is verbally appreciative and very affectionate as it is). If he requested that I learn something new, I would do it happily, knowing in advance the type person he is, and that his tasks are things that improve me as an idividual (although he may throw in a frivilous "do it because I said so" task now and then just for his amusement). 




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