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susie -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/22/2007 8:25:12 PM)

Krissi

My best wishes to you. I have suffered from MRSA having been tested during a long stay in hospial following colon surgery. It was a tough time as I was getting over a perforated colon and needed most of it removed. The MRSA was an added bonus. I can say that I now live a perfectly normal life and it has not restricted me in anything that I do.

I am someone that has the greatest respect and admiration for all those in the medical profession. I spent nearly a year in hospital during that time and got to see their dedication first hand. I am fully aware that it was because of the care of the medical staff and my family that I got to be where I am now.

Krissi, if you would ever like someone to chat to please just drop me a line.

susie



earthycouple -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/22/2007 8:27:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: susie

Krissi

My best wishes to you. I have suffered from MRSA having been tested during a long stay in hospial following colon surgery. It was a tough time as I was getting over a perforated colon and needed most of it removed. The MRSA was an added bonus. I can say that I now live a perfectly normal life and it has not restricted me in anything that I do.

I am someone that has the greatest respect and admiration for all those in the medical profession. I spent nearly a year in hospital during that time and got to see their dedication first hand. I am fully aware that it was because of the care of the medical staff and my family that I got to be where I am now.

Krissi, if you would ever like someone to chat to please just drop me a line.

susie


Oh I'm so glad you have found your way past MRSA!  Way to go!  And thanks so much for the kudos to healthcare...we'll take all we can get *beaming*



JerseyKrissi72 -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/22/2007 8:30:03 PM)

thankyou Mistress Donna and Robert--also all the other nice people who posted here today..you all are great.

The Proverbs 31 Nurse



Who can find a good-natured nurse?
For her price is far above silver and gold.
Those with whom she works
do safely trust in her,
for she will do her duty well.
She seeks medicines and skills,
and works willingly to help others.
She is like the dedicated servant;
she gives of herself
and considers her own desires last.
She rises while it is yet night
and gives aid to the sick
and comfort to the sorrowing.
A heartwarming smile is hers,
and she uses it;
from her heart it comes,
and is made beautiful in her eyes.
She girds herself with honor
and strengthens her ability with patience.
She perceives that her work is good.
Her candle does not go out by night.
She lays her hands upon understanding.
She stretches out her hand to the poor;
yes, she reaches forth hands to the needy.
She is not afraid of sorrow,
for her trust is in God.
Pride and humility are her clothing,
and she shall rejoice in time to come.
She opens her mouth with comfort,
and in her tongue is the law of kindness.
She busies herself helping others
and does not allow herself to be idle.
Her associates rise up and call her blessed;
her patients also and they praise her kindness.
Many daughters have helped others,
but you excel them all.
Favor is deceitful, and beauty is vain,
but a nurse that fears the Lord,
she shall be praised.
Give her the fruit of her hands
and let her own works praise her
in the halls of nursing.



earthycouple -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/22/2007 8:35:47 PM)

Krissi....

That was beautiful thank you so much for taking the time to find and post this...And please...just Donna *S*



smilingjaguar -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/22/2007 11:54:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: earthycouple
I can only imagine the rigor your family goes through and my heart goes out to all of you.  It's tough, as I've mentioned...but you can overcome it...Good Luck and Good Health to you and yours


Thank you for the kind words for my family.  My oldest UM has gone through some significant challenges to the point where the MRSA is basically a side effect of survival, so we've gotten the medical routine down a little too well.  It's just impossible to keep two UMs under 3 who are madly, madly in love with one another away from each other when one doesn't feel well.  All I do is blink and slobber kisses are everywhere and cookies and milk are being shared.   [:D]

Edited to say:  Donna, from what I've read both you and your slave are the nurses patients and their families want and NEED to have around when fighting an illness.  I've been around enough in the last few years to know good care from bad, and I would gladly have either of you care for my family.



justheather -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/23/2007 12:50:45 AM)

Id just like to clarify for the record here that MRSA is a strain of bacteria, not a disease.
Lots of people walk around positive for MRSA on nose culture and exhibit no symptoms whatsoever.
Most people who work in health care are colonized, despite precautions.

As far as going into nursing "for the money"...I make a decent living wage and am paid more hourly than some people I know, less than others. Most people I know, patients and their families, my family and friends...people who know the details of my job and how hard I work when Im there...say to me that there is no way they "could ever do" my job.

Just some food for thought for anyone thinking about going into Nursing. It would be a shame to pour all the effort and energy associated with nursng school into starting a career you end up hating.



earthycouple -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/23/2007 5:05:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: justheather

Id just like to clarify for the record here that MRSA is a strain of bacteria, not a disease.
Lots of people walk around positive for MRSA on nose culture and exhibit no symptoms whatsoever.
Most people who work in health care are colonized, despite precautions.

As far as going into nursing "for the money"...I make a decent living wage and am paid more hourly than some people I know, less than others. Most people I know, patients and their families, my family and friends...people who know the details of my job and how hard I work when Im there...say to me that there is no way they "could ever do" my job.

Just some food for thought for anyone thinking about going into Nursing. It would be a shame to pour all the effort and energy associated with nursng school into starting a career you end up hating.


You are right heather MRSA is a bacteria that colonizes and becomes dangerous and if I didn't convey that properly through the thread due to the "hijack" my apologies.

Thanks



maybemaybenot -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/23/2007 6:16:36 AM)

Krissi: Please pardon my  off topic post for a minute;

A general reply to the other nurses here, and perhaps I am misunderstanding what you wrote, but here goes:

I am one of those nurses who didn't enter this profession for any great love of it. I was in college, an education major, at that time the education field was swamped, and our advisors suggested we consider another field, as the job outlook was bleak. What a mistake they made there. Anyhow, I left for a year, not knowing what I wanted to do and decided I would go to LPN school, decent money, lucrative hours, etc. Seemed like a good thing to do until I figured out what I really wanted to do.
30 years later, I am still here. Yes, I do love my job and could not see me doing anything else. But my initial decision to be a nurse had nothing to do with * wanting * to be a nurse. I have quite a few nurse friends who entered this profesion for reasons other than a childhood dream of being a nurse, they are fine nurses.
While I love my job, and I really do love it, I do not love or even like all of my patients. I have had some I absolutely could not stand.  But they recieved the same care and attention as the others. Any nurse who hasn't seen a call light go off and said " Ohh for Chrissake, it's HIM again ", isn't being real.  We don't like every patient. And for me, that is a good thing. It has taught me how to put my personal opinions and judgements aside and treat each person with human dignity. It has taught me patience and understanding.
As for nurses having to be " people persons", I would disagree, there are many areas of nursing that you are away from patients or have little to no patient contact. We are all not the same. Is the research lab nurse any less a  nurse because she has removed herself from patients to enter another area? Is the nurse who really doesn't like wiping ass and sick people any less a nurse because s/he works in the pharmacuetical world or goes and teaches EMT school ? And the list goes on.

Sometimes, we in the patient care areas of nursing,  forget there is a whole nother world of nursing that is so unlike what we do, but equally as valuable and equally needed. And many of the nurses who are in those areas, are quite unlike * us*.

                                    mbmbn







justheather -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/23/2007 8:27:28 AM)

I went into nursing because I was a single mother without a career path. Turns out a degree in Theatre really doesnt open many doors. Who knew?
So, as I lay there in the hospital after delivering my son, I looked at the night nurse and thought to myself "I could do that."
And I did. I got a full scholarship to nursing school, graduated with a 4.0 and won an award on graduation. At no time, did I fell that nursing was "my calling" or something I was born to do. And Im a good nurse.
But Im a good nurse because I find a deeper meaning in what I do. I think that was the point these other nurses were trying to make. No, it isnt always about your deep bond with the patient. Sometimes the patient is the reason for his own problems and you resent him for it. And sometimes he hates your guts for trying to help him.
Im (clearly) no Florence Nightengale, but Im a good nurse, and I will be the first one to tell you that there are days I get in my car and chant to myself "They are going to pay me $XXX for doing my job tonite." But that is never the reason I do my job well once Im there. You have to have something else, something deeper, higher, whatever you want to call it, to motivate you, otherwise you won't stay. If nursing isnt your passion, you have to find a way to find your passion in nursing. Otherwise, the patients are better off if you stay home. It's as simple as that.

At least, that's been my experience.



earthycouple -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/23/2007 8:32:41 AM)

"But Im a good nurse because I find a deeper meaning in what I do. I think that was the point these other nurses were trying to make"
 
Thank you Heather. 



maybemaybenot -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/23/2007 12:25:22 PM)

I completely agree with heather, it's my experience too.

Masque said one of his reasons for choosing nursing was that it wll lend itself nicely to his Domhood
< paraphrasing> While, I am not so sure that I think nursing will provide any extra anything to do with that, I see no reason to be hypercritical of that being A reason. If it were the sole reason, I would think differently.

When Masque was critqued on  one of his reasons he tried to explain himself:

snip:
"They'll get the best treatment I can give because I always do my work to the best of my ability.  It's a matter of both pride and honor to me.  But for honesty's sake, I won't lie and say that some perfect strangers each mean something special to me. "

That was enough for me. If he does dedicate himself to doing the best he can for his patients, he will make a decent nurse.  there is an old saying that  nurses eat their young. Sadly,I find that to be true many times. And why so many younger ones left quickly once in the profession and one reason why there is a drop off in nursing. I try to support people's choices to go into nursing, God knows we are coming upon a crisis we have never faced in the next 10 ish years in nursing.
And quite honestly, I do not think we can judge whether or not a person will make a good nurse or good anything, based on a few sentences on a MB.
I mean no disrespect to anyone, Just my own opinion.

                        mbmbn



maybemaybenot -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/23/2007 12:30:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: earthycouple

"But Im a good nurse because I find a deeper meaning in what I do. I think that was the point these other nurses were trying to make"
 
Thank you Heather. 



I actually liked this alot. It sums up how Ifeel also. Much better said than I could have.
It is also something that you evolve into, I don't think there are many out there who went into nursing looking for a deeper meaning to their profession. IMO, this comes as your experience in the field grows and you see how your actions 
< hopefully> positively affect the lives of your patients and families/loved ones.

                         mbmbn



Cuckme4Life -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/23/2007 1:08:09 PM)

All this discussion about MSRA,  i have a couple questions. Now i certainly go do the typical internet search route but thats so clinical it doesnt quite answer some questions.  i had one boil on the back of my neck and it wasnt fun, i can imagine some folk have a hell of a lot more concerns than i had at that time. i feel for anyone having to suffer a boil because they do flat out HURT!   Fortunately for myself, my g/f at the time was  a nurse and knew how to care for them and i did not suffer another one. Her daughter (a 3 yr old) had one develop on her rear leg area. Poor child was in some serious pain.

1) whats the best antibiotics/meds to take while infected?
2) some people get scars from the boil infections and ive seem some angry red lines from some of these infections, whats the best way to deal with these aftereffect scars?????? 
3) nutrionally speaking, is there something in a diet that may need to be increased that can help ???? Zinc, sodium, magenesuim, potassium??? Just a question, not so much isolating these particular dietary needs,,,,
4) why is the rearend/hamstring area so much more prone to suffer these boils?? or so i have been told this is a common area.



JerseyKrissi72 -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/23/2007 3:58:19 PM)

i used tea tree oil on my boil and it took down alot of the pressure and redness but still I needed the following:::

1. sulfameth/Trimethoprim which is basically the generic form of "Bactrim" (antibiotic)
2. Hibiclens--- which can be found in the first aid section of most drug stores..you wash with it all over your body 3x a day .
3. Mupirocin ointment -- applied to each nostril 3x a day..

** very good hygeine and soaking the boil in warm water 4x a day....



earthycouple -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/23/2007 4:07:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Cuckme4Life

All this discussion about MSRA,  i have a couple questions. Now i certainly go do the typical internet search route but thats so clinical it doesnt quite answer some questions.  i had one boil on the back of my neck and it wasnt fun, i can imagine some folk have a hell of a lot more concerns than i had at that time. i feel for anyone having to suffer a boil because they do flat out HURT!   Fortunately for myself, my g/f at the time was  a nurse and knew how to care for them and i did not suffer another one. Her daughter (a 3 yr old) had one develop on her rear leg area. Poor child was in some serious pain.

1) whats the best antibiotics/meds to take while infected?  an internet forum can not answer this question.  You must see a doctor.  We have allergies, concurrent meds and other things that may change your ABT from someone else's.
2) some people get scars from the boil infections and ive seem some angry red lines from some of these infections, whats the best way to deal with these aftereffect scars??????  You can try over the counter scar treatments, Vitamin E but nothing will make them go away completely.  BEST thing is try not to aggravate the boil causing more of a scar.  Never ever squeeze or try to excize a boil yourself, either....that's only asking for trouble.
3) nutrionally speaking, is there something in a diet that may need to be increased that can help ???? Zinc, sodium, magenesuim, potassium??? Just a question, not so much isolating these particular dietary needs,,,,  Good balanced diet is always the best route to take...plenty of protien for healing.
4) why is the rearend/hamstring area so much more prone to suffer these boils?? or so i have been told this is a common area.  Because that's where we sit and bend and it gets hot and sticky and blech (that's my nursey term for the day...blech) there...under the arm is another place.  and for larger people under the breasts and folds of skin.



Cuckme4Life -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/24/2007 5:02:13 AM)

highly thanx to JerseyKrissi72 and earthycouple for the answers,,,,  extremely helpful



Sweetbluerose -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/25/2007 3:48:24 PM)

I had a four boils total last year after going through some traumatic incidences, the death of my mother, and other lesser stuff.
I end up in the hosipitol one time for eight days on iv vancomycin.
After comming out of the hospitol and completing the course of iv vancomycin at home, its a real trip to give yourself iv drugs twice a day. There put a central line in my arm, and that inabled me to give the vancomycin by myself.
Anyway, when I got another boil, which responded fast to treatment.
They decided I was colonized.
I saw one of the leading experts in the communicative diseases, He put me on a decolonization process
For six months, I washed my entire body, except for eyes mouth and ears with hibiclens once a day, i swabbed my nose out with bacterin(anitbiotic cream) twice a day and went on two powerful oral antibiotics, baterium, and another one starting with r, that i can't remember but it made my pee bright red,
For the first two weeks I took the two antibiotics twice a day, and every third day took a sit bath in a mild chlorox solution, then for the next six months I had to do the once a day hipiclens and the swabbing my nasal cavities twice a day.
After that the doctor said probably wasn't colonized anymore.
He said after the antibiotic treatment that I was no more danger to anyone then any other member of the general public.
People that aren't under stress or immune compromised are exposed to MRSA every day, it is not only prevalent in hospitol and nursing care places, but they say that it now is in the general public as well.
I knock on wood haven't had any further boil or staph infection since last June.
I do what where I go try to stay away from hospitols, and I still wash my hands with antibiotic soap often and scrub under my nails, I also swab my nose out occassionally especially if I visit my Dad at his assisted care place, or am exposed to crowds.
The worst part of this is my kidney function was really affected and it was almost 8 months before it was back to normal.
I am still afraid of getting another MRSA.



sierraflowr -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/29/2007 1:39:58 AM)

[:o] Well just thought i'd put my thoughts out here. I ended up with MRSA after an opersation. This is HA-MRSA I've asked around and talked to many people about this lately. I needed to find out about playing. these comments from a friend who works in the nursing field also,
quote:

After talking to Steve about lots of possibilities, I
think this may be a path to finding out helpful info
in your case. MRSA can colonize just part of the body
or it may be in the blood which would bring it to any
and all parts of the body. Having your blood cultured
will tell you if you have the more serious blood born
"flavor".

If its blood born then all your body fluids are
possible methods of infection to others such as tears,
plasma, saliva, vaginal secretions and so forth.
Basically its as contagous as Hep C andn can infect
others by the same route.

If its localized then you should be sure that the
infected area is covered and left alone when you play.

Just to be safer than safe, toys used on you should
not be used on others. I think its just good sense for
folks to have their own toys anyway.

Since what i experienced was just MRSA in my incision, not healing, and such, it was tested and said to be MRSA, i think i will get myself tested again to see if it is IN me still. I've talked to other Drs. that say don't worry about it at all. SO confusing!!!
i AM concerned because i am a hard player! i haven't played in awhile, also partially due to my operation and recuperating.
I'm shocked the other type of MRSA, CA-MRSA (Community aquired) isn't talked about more due to the fact that you get THAT one from other people in small quarters, like gyms, locker rooms etc.
anyway i hope people can learn more about this and its relation to BDSM and how it will affect us in the lifestly.
I am also diabetic which causes even MORE immune problems and healing problems.
i DO know if it is IN you, and you get it constantly, for instance my brother has to catheterize and gets UTI's all the time, runs a huge risk of it getting out of hand. that scares me. both my sister and brother also have Hep C.
so i guess to sum it up, play nice boys and girls and lets be SAFE out there!!




leftofcenter -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (5/31/2007 6:24:36 AM)

MRSA is one of those things that's going to haunt you for life most likely.  In my hospital, we put patients who have a history of MRSA, or a current infection on contact isolation to prevent the spread of it.  Unfortunately it can inhabit nearly any place in your body, even your respiratory tract.  My stepmother has bladder cancer, and recently tested positive for MRSA in her urine.
Just wanted to comment on the toy issue.  I'd advise anyone with MRSA or HepC to use toys that are reserved exclusively for them.  Lots of great comments here.  Seems like now though, we probably ought to wear masks on airplanes to avoid getting TB!!!



ThinkingKitten -> RE: Better Dealing With MRSA (6/1/2007 10:29:57 AM)

Anyone who wants accurate info about this bug should consult the following link as there is a lot of misinformation present in this thread mixed in with the accurate info, and this will really help you sort out fact from fiction:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dhqp/ar_mrsa_ca_public.html
 
MRSA used to be the bug bear (excuse the pun) of hospitals and long-term care facilities, but has now spread into the general population (community-acquired MRSA, or just CA-MRSA), and most of the posts here are about CA-MRSA.
 
Regards



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