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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/4/2007 3:14:47 AM

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Hi - just some extracts that might be useful:

Healthy eating is about choosing:

mainly plant-based foods – vegetables, fruits and legumes (dried peas, dried beans and lentils) and grain based foods such as wholegrain or wholemeal bread, plain pasta (preferably wholemeal), rice (preferably brown), plain noodles and grains.
moderate amounts of lean meats, skinless poultry, fish and reduced fat dairy products; and
moderate amounts of polyunsaturated or monounsaturated oils and fats.

Tips to enjoy healthy eating

Use margarine spreads instead of butter or dairy blends.
Use a variety of oils for cooking – some suitable choices include canola, sunflower, soybean, olive and peanut oils.
Use salad dressings and mayonnaise made from oils such as canola, sunflower, soybean and olive oils.
Choose low or reduced fat milk and yoghurt or ‘added calcium’ soy beverages. Try to limit cheese and ice-cream to twice a week.
Have fish (any type of fresh or canned) at least twice a week.
Select lean meat (meat trimmed of fat and chicken without skin). Try to limit fatty meats including sausages and delicatessen meats such as salami.
Snack on plain, unsalted nuts and fresh fruit.
Incorporate dried peas (e.g. split peas), dried beans (e.g. haricot beans, kidney beans), canned beans (e.g. baked beans, three bean mix) or lentils into two meals a week.
Make vegetables and grain-based foods such as breakfast cereals, wholegrain or wholemeal bread, pasta (preferably wholemeal), rice (preferably brown), and plain noodles the major part of each meal.
Try to limit take-away foods to once a week. Take-away foods include pastries, pies, pizza, hamburgers and creamy pasta dishes.
Try to limit snack foods such as potato crisps and corn crisps to once a week.
Try to limit cakes, pastries and chocolate or creamy biscuits to once a week.

There are some interesting articles on the website, about healthy eating, exercise etc. Go to www.heartfoundation.com.au

Good luck..... :)

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/4/2007 4:06:19 AM

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Hehe ... I'm following that diet on my own ... Never read about it ... just thought about what a person would do if he was stuck back in time, without machines and modern technology ... he would only be able to catch fish, or kill poultry...
So I already lost 9 kgs the last 3 months and my weight just keeps going down. And I don't even have to starve myself. Lots of fruit and vegetables do the trick. :D

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/4/2007 9:51:30 AM

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Hello ladies! Well, it's been a while since anyone has posted...I thought i'd pop in for my progress report.

UGH!

I broke....last week I found myself at the store buying sugary stuff. Chocolate mostly and of course the sodas. This diet stuff is hard. Although, I do believe I know what triggered it and has me thinking about why I have been having so much trouble before. The morning of the day I bought my sweets, I recieved bad news. Same thing happened again yesterday...and yes, found myself buying sweets. And that's what got me thinking.

It it possible....just hearing bad news alone can trigger a sugar frenzy?

I've had my thyroids and all checked and there is nothing wrong with them, which is one reason docs are so confused as to why I can't loose weight easily. But, we are still working at it. I've started drinking juices again. Something I haven't done for almost 2 years. And fish is being brought back into my meals. A hard thing is going to be cutting down on my red meat.

What about coffee?? I don't drink as much as I used to...maybe 2 or 3 cups a day now. Should I go to something other than full flavored?

So...how's everyone else doing?

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/4/2007 1:50:14 PM

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I'd like to add to this thread to be kind to yourself in this transition, some studies support the idea people can become addicted to certain coping behaviors and this is considered a transition into health in some case's the body will put up a fight to keep the weight and habits .

Like any change it's a hard process and old habits die hard and we as humans tend to gravitate towards what we know .food lends us emotions it's like a pat on the back by proxy and then a kick in our arse too.The key is balance and also stop struggling with yourself relax and make a commitment to change also embrace who you are and stop the (when i'm thin i'll be this or that ) .talk
If a mistake happens well the next meal is a new start .the i'll start Monday mentality doesn't work each time you feed your body is a choice and when you realize taking care of you is the best gift to yourself .

In some of my clients i've noticed negative self tapes (things you say to yourself to cause failure ) you need to change those tapes in your head to a positive message find something you really like about yourself and record that tape instead of an ex's voice ,a displeased mom insulting you .

If your holding off loving who you are based on the weight you carry then losing weight will not solve your problems .Love who you are now and during the process do it out of self love not self hate .
I wish everyone going on this adventure of health a motivating path to excellence. ~~~Doll

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/4/2007 2:14:53 PM

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Realize that just one glass of juice (8oz) apple for example is the equivelant of about a dozen apples, except its basically all the sugar and none of the fiber. The body only absorbs sugars(carbs), protiens, fats and vitamins and minerals..... everything else gets flushed. If you were to eat 2 apples instead, less preferably, you would be more full due to the fiber in the natural fruit. Its the same with vegetables as well. If your body has to work harder to gigest and absorb what we consume, it burns more energy to get it done. Filling it with what we think is healthy, ie juices and such defeats the purpose and only gives us a "fast sugar" rush that if the body doesnt immediately use it, it stores it as fat.

I mentioned it before and still swear by it. The 6 week body makeover ideals work. I'm up to 10 lbs in about 3 weeks and hubby has lost 15. There is a small group of us doing it. Its pretty easy if you take the time to plan it out.
If you are interested, I have a link to the base site where you can take the "body blueprint" quiz and figure out your body type. Then I would be happy to go through my book and give you what the menues look like etc. A friend did it for me and I lost 3 lbs in a week before I ever bought the system. Cant hurt to give anything a test run.

Either way.... its obvious that you will have a support system in place even if its just a bunch of names on a forum. And eventually you will succeed I am sure. Be well and safe.

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/4/2007 2:23:16 PM

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It it possible....just hearing bad news alone can trigger a sugar frenzy?

Yes, it is possible. Did you ever hear the term "comfort food"? It is dubbed that for a reason. But I do not think that such a bout is really that bad, if you try to eat healthy otherwise. You needed that comfort at that time, and it is fine.
I hope you will have a less troubled times comming.

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/4/2007 2:49:15 PM

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Thanks for the advice ladies. I was thinking about my last two trips to the store today and it got me to thinking about my past. I realized that most of the time I ate sweets was immediately following hering bad news or something bad happening. Never heard the term "comfort food" but I can see why now. As a kid growing up, lots of times I can remember mom asking such things as "Why can't you be more like your sister?" or saying things like, "Your not gonna go far in life." and even as an adult she would say things like that as well as things like "You should be ashamed." Course, i've never been ashamed of myself. I figure if I was ment to be any other way than what I am now, I would be.

Mom often tells me if I was happy with who and what I am, I wouldn't want to change it...but I don't believe that. I am happy...I just want to make me better. Is there anything wrong with that? I didn't know apples were all sugar. :P Course, I don't really care for apples anyways...they taste funny. I like apple juice though....go figure. Someone once told me a good thing to drink while trying to loose weight was grapefruit juice and vinegar. I don't mind drinking grapefruit juice...but vinegar? I like vinegar on roasts. :P

Yes..please send the link. It doesn't hurt to check it out. Even if all I loose over the next year is 10lbs....it's a goal worth trying for. Course, i'd rather loose 100...but I don't see that happening. lol!

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/4/2007 3:59:54 PM

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I've started drinking juices again. Something I haven't done for almost 2 years. And fish is being brought back into my meals. A hard thing is going to be cutting down on my red meat.

What about coffee?? I don't drink as much as I used to...maybe 2 or 3 cups a day now. Should I go to something other than full flavored?

So...how's everyone else doing?

Greetings

On juices, another person mentioned them containing tons of sugar, and they're right, they do. The sugar in juice is generally simple sugar, not like the granulated you buy to sweeten things, but still it is too much for most people to burn. One alternative to straight juice is to take and mix that with white, green, or black tea. It will sweeten the tea naturally and will dilute the juice to where you're not getting so much of the sugar. White tea combined with nectarine, or raspberry juice is really good. White tea is mild in flavor. Snapple has some new teas out now and i love their nectarine white tea, and my mom loves their green teas.

i didn't continue with the diet plan i had been told about. my Master told me to stop before the first day was even through as i was not feeling right. i wasn't getting enough protein and at the end of the day He had me eat some tuna and within 20 minutes i was feeling much better. So, that plan is out.

It's ok though, because i am losing weight. i just discovered that even though it's the time of the month where i'm bloating, one pair of pair of jeans i have that are normally tight straight out of the wash were not so tight so i weighed myself. i'm down almost 10 lbs since i posted this thread almost 2 weeks ago. About the only thing i've been doing differently the past week is i have been working in the berry booth, so i've not been able to eat like i normally do.

In the booth, i get a break to make myself a sandwich but i'm right back in the booth, but am able to munch on blackberries all day while i'm out there. i have a can of peanuts out there, too, and munch on them also. By evening i'm not very hungry but usually grab a bit of whatever is for dinner, which in the summertime is usually bbq'd chicken breasts or tri-tip.

Well wishes

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/5/2007 2:40:20 AM

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Be carefull with the juices. Many are essentially fluid candy.
Grapefruit is good to remove stored water from tissue. That is why it is recommended for diets. But you have to realize, that the wheight you loose through this is only water, not fat. Essentially a fad, as that wheight is back on faster as you can look.
No idea about the vinegar, though.

Congratulations on realizing the pattern behind the sweets craving. This is a very importand step in the right direction.

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/5/2007 5:07:51 AM

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Thanks for the hint on teas. I happen to like Snapple Teas. They taste good. Never tried it with juice before. But will do so. lol...fluid candy. No wonder I like juice..it's sugar.

Ok, what about natural juice, the kind I would squeeze myself? Would that not cut down on the sugar content? Also want to ask about breads. Some people say cut bread all together, some say eat wheat or wholegrain. I don't like the taste of wheat and whole grain....so what do I do for a pb&j sandwhich without bread?

edited to add....Last night for dinner I had only 1 slice of pizza as opposed to the normal 5 or 6 and a nice helping of salad. Filled me at the time, but I found my tummy doing flips two hours later wanting more. I imaging I didn't eat enough, but was thinking since I felt satisfied, that I was full. But if' i'm gonna feel so hungry within two hours, then it would mean I wasn't full right? Gonna stop off at the store today to pick up some carrot and celery sticks to munch on for when my tummy wakes like that. Is there anything else I can do so I won't be so hungry withing such a short span of time. I'm not used to eating that little. I have to run for now...but when I get back, i'll post what a normal days meals would be for me so ya'll will see why i'm having so much trouble with food. See ya when I get back.

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/5/2007 5:22:12 AM

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mypyramid.gov can help you and its free-you can put in your own stats-weight, height, physical activity-and it will give ideas on what you need to adjust.

also, if you are careful and eat high fiber foods, you can deduct one gram of carb for each gram of fiber contained in a food.

it is a battle, one i fight my self.....best of luck to you.

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/5/2007 7:52:42 AM

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I'm back. Ok, I did pick up more than just carrots and celery...I got some seedless grapes, fruit cups and cottage cheese.

So now...my days meals....and this may be a shocker for some people because it is so much. Someone once told me a woman can't eat like this, but this is basically how i've ate for 25 years. So here goes....

Breakfast around 8am
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6-8 eggs, fried or poached
8-10 slices of bacon
4-6 slices of buttered toast
8 oounce bowl of grits
8 ounce glass of juice
16 ounces of coffee, black

10am
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large bag of chips
32 ounces or more soda
candy bar

lunch 12pm
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4 hotdogs or sausage dogs
4 buns
meium siz bag of chips
32 ounces or more of soda

4pm
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usually a half gallon of icecream
or some type of junk food
32 ounces or more soda

dinner 6pm
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half a chicken, yes...a whole half
2-3 large scoops of mashed potatos w/butter
3 tlbs peas and/or corn
8 ounce glass of sweet tea, usually followed by soda

8pm
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sme snack patterns of before dinner

There was also at least 8 other cans of soda throughout the day. Soda has been cut quite a bit. I think i've only had 2 this past week. Breakfast has been basically cut out completely, sept sometime i'll get hungry around 4 am and usually i'll munch on something from the previous night dinner. Lunch now usually is 2 sandwiches....ham, lettuce, blt or pb&j. Or a can of soup. Dinner now is a chicken leg...leg&thigh, 1 medium scoop of potatos and 1 tlbs of peas and.or corn. I have a 32onz bottle that I keep full of water and it usually gets refilled 4 times a day. So now, ya see why I get hungry now. This is a drastic cut for me. Now I realize going from what I used to eat and dropping everything like a rock like I did wasn't the best thing to do...but at the time, the only thing on my mind was loosing weight and getting healthy. But I think it's kinda backfiring on me. My stomach don't feel right, i'm always hungry and sometimes to the point I feel like puking. My mother says it does like that now because i've ate so much for so many years, the cut I took in eating..my stomach ain't used to it so it's turned on itself to find food.

edited to add: Today so far, all i've had to eat was 2 sausage dogs and 2 buns. I have no idea what's on the menu for dinner as my girl cooks the food.

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/5/2007 10:41:38 AM

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Those are some drastic changes you have made. You can be very proud of yourself.

Fresh pressed juice has just as much sugar as bought juice (if you buy one with no added sugar). So you have to be carefull with that, too. Maybe make a nice smothie with yoghurt and fruit and eventual some fibre added. That gives you the good taste, but also is filling and might make a good sweet snack without the bad conscience.
As for cutting out breakfast, that is not a smart move. Breakfast should be your largest meal. And if you you like egg and bacon that is fine. Just reduce it. How about 2 eggs (poached), 2 slices of bacon (lean), a small bowl of oatmeal with a bit of fruit and coffe? You do not, under no circumstances want your body to go into starvation mode. And cutting calories that drastic, you are just doing that.
Between breakfast and lunch, have a snack. Mabe some carotts with dip, or some vegetable juice.
If you can cut out the hotdogs and sausages, do so. They are essentiall garbage. If you like them really much, how about chicken dogs? Limit yourself to two dogs, but serve with a nice helping off vegetables. Eat vegetables until you feel really satisfied.
In the afternoon you seem to crave a sweet snack. So maybe a smothie would do you good at that time.
Chicken for dinner is great. But maybe change to breast or cook it without the skin. Brown rice would be better than mashed potatoes. And vegetables! Maybe not exactly peas and corn, because those are very starchy.
And for after dinner/tv munchies some vegetable sticks with some low fat ranch dressing maybe?

Eating all that food for a long time has stretched your stomach, and it takes time to shrink it. But you should not go hungry, that will make it harder to loose weight, and will gnaw on your determination. Keep food handy that you like, that fills you, but has not many calories or fat and carbs. Do you like jello? Sugarfree jello is a nice treat to have.

White bread is something you should ideally cut out from your diet, as there is nothing in it you need, only "bad" carbs. Have you tried whole wheat sandwhich bread with no grains in it? Nearly no difference in taste to be found.

I wish you the best of luck, and do not let your mother get to you.

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/5/2007 12:48:35 PM

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I thought all hotdogs were made with chicken.

But I can do without them. I like tomato sandwiches and blt's. Jello is good. Even comes with fruit now. Saw that in the store today. So yea...those would make nice snacks. Guess I can get used to yogurt. Kinda strong in taste though. Whole wheat with no grain?? I thought that's what whole wheat was...grain. I'll have to check the store and try it.

For lunch just now I had a small bowl of cottage cheese with lettuce bits and shredded chedder. Turns out, chicken it what's on the menu for tonight...do without skin....hmmm, I like crunchy skin...but I suppose I can deal without it.

Thanks for the boost of confidence Calamity. It means a lot.

And I don't let my mom get to me any more. I just tell her whatever when she starts.

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/5/2007 1:29:39 PM

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www.fitday.com
www.thedailyplate.com are both wonderful resources.

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/5/2007 7:04:29 PM

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glad your Master had you change the diet so you were more healthy. Sounds like things are going well and look forward to hearing more.

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/6/2007 1:18:19 AM

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Guess I can get used to yogurt. Kinda strong in taste though. Whole wheat with no grain?? I thought that's what whole wheat was...grain. I'll have to check the store and try it.

There is low fat yoghurt that is nearly tasteless.

White bread is made with only the light, inner part of the grain. It lacks all the fibre and other good stuff in the hull.
Whole wheat bread does not have to have grains. It can be milled just as fine as white. Only the hull gets in, too. It looks a bit darker than the white one, but texture and taste are very alike.

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/7/2007 8:33:49 PM

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edited to add....Last night for dinner I had only 1 slice of pizza as opposed to the normal 5 or 6 and a nice helping of salad. Filled me at the time, but I found my tummy doing flips two hours later wanting more. I imaging I didn't eat enough, but was thinking since I felt satisfied, that I was full. But if' i'm gonna feel so hungry within two hours, then it would mean I wasn't full right? Gonna stop off at the store today to pick up some carrot and celery sticks to munch on for when my tummy wakes like that. Is there anything else I can do so I won't be so hungry withing such a short span of time. I'm not used to eating that little. I have to run for now...but when I get back, i'll post what a normal days meals would be for me so ya'll will see why i'm having so much trouble with food. See ya when I get back.

Part of the reason your stomach was doing flips is because it had diegested what you'd eaten and was trying to "work on more". your metabolism has been trained to large quantities of food. It takes time to reprogram it. Its not really that different from people who are heavy who eat 1-2 meals a day.... except in those cases its because the body is trained to hang onto what it gets because its not sure when it will get more. If you are always eating large quantities... the metabolism works often.... when you change that pattern, it will take a week or so for it to catch up and realize it will be getting smaller quantities. I hope that made sense. I just took and anatomy and Physiology final on the Endocrine and Digestive system. So that info is finally decompressing out of my brain. YEA!

It all boils down to change takes time (and immense patience) to adjust to. But its worth it in the end.
Congrats to everyone on the changes and good journeys to those working up the path.

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/10/2007 3:32:29 PM

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Obviously everyone is different but here are a few key things that worked for me

*number one was paying attention to waht worked for me, not what others told me to do. That doesn't sound all that profound but i think it was an important part of losing wieght for me.

*also, focusing more on being healthy than on losing wieght. I was working on creating a new healthy lifestyle, not just losing wieght quickly.

*Also, i would drink a lot of water with meals and throughout the day. If you have finished your meal and you still feel hungry drink some water and wait for 20 minutes. You might not be as hungry as you think.

*Also, i cut out carbs where i could and tried to only eat whole grains when i did. Personally i knew that i could not resist my craving for a carby desert at night while relaxing so i cut way back on carbs at dinner knowing that that was a craving i didn't care so much about.

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*Oh and i focused on eating lots of smaller meals and snacks rather than the idea of cutting back how much i eat. When my body never got to a "starving" place it was easier to eat a good portion and i just felt better. So make sure you eat breakfast and have healthy snacks throughout the day.

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RE: Looking to lose some weight - 6/11/2007 7:15:01 PM

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Greetings

Well, here's an update...In the past few weeks, i've lost weight. i can get into one particular pair of jeans without them being suffocatingly tight right after they've been washed. This is so very awesome and i'm looking forward to getting back into my favorite pair of jeans within the next couple of weeks, hopefully...then work on getting more weight off as the next couple of months go by. i'd like to be down to about 230 by September...i'm under 260 now...i can do it. The past couple weeks prove it.

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