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RE: forced feminization - 5/27/2006 5:32:44 PM   
ShivaTS


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its actually very hard to transition from female to male.  the hormones are easy, but to create a man's genitals means you need access skin, tissue.....where would it come from?  also there are few doctors that perform male to female surgery and even less that do female to male.

To a previous post of "why do it".  I was born intersex.  I had an overy and atleast one testicle.  Yeah all the working parts weren't fully formed (uterus), but the potential to be female or male was there at birth.  I was striped of my right to birth a child.  I was denied the full knowledge of this for a good portion of my life.  I am metally the woman I was at birth and therefore have no intentions of penetrating anyone.  You want humiliation, THAT'S HUMILIATION!  I never sought out a domme because of the worry that she would expect to use me as a male.  I am finally getting close to my surgery and tried sex with a man (anally penetrated).  I wont be trying that again and at 28 year old, I have waisted alot of good nights alone.  You dont understand?  Try draining yourself of all your emotions, putting up barriers so no one can touch you mentally or physically because of the shame of "forced masculinization".  If you still cant understand go read some books and talk to some trans.

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RE: forced feminization - 5/27/2006 5:46:32 PM   
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Oh I see...

What I meant was HIS transition, since he still has a penis and everything, to RETURN back to being a male.

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RE: forced feminization - 5/27/2006 5:55:08 PM   
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Sorry youngasiancutie, that rant wasnt for you.  If a trans grew breast it wouldnt take very much to remove the access tissue that developed.  You most likely not grow any facial hair if you went though electrolysis while feminizing,  Testosterone will take over again after getting off the antiandrogen.  You may not produce very much "swimmer" anymore, but atleast there will be some.  Regular function as a male will continue if it stopped to begin with.  I have no testicles and am on mild antiandrogen and to my dismay still have erections.

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RE: froced feminzation - 5/28/2006 9:38:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: letmebeurmaid

how many dominate femlaes have desired to have the're subs whom are into forced feminization devellop breast via hormones vs implants.


I am complete against those who are into "forced" feminization to be prescribed hormones and implants. They are not meant for those with sexual fetishist.

-mellian

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RE: froced feminzation - 5/29/2006 12:53:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mellian

quote:

ORIGINAL: letmebeurmaid

how many dominate femlaes have desired to have the're subs whom are into forced feminization devellop breast via hormones vs implants.


I am complete against those who are into "forced" feminization to be prescribed hormones and implants. They are not meant for those with sexual fetishist.

-mellian

well said no one should be forced to do anything. playing with hormones should only be under the supervision of a doctor. that said the fantsy of it dose appeal to wake up one morrning and find yo'v got tits and no dick
curtsy tvsue 



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RE: forced feminzation - 6/24/2006 4:56:26 AM   
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OK...while i feel pretty sure stef meant this as a joke...i do have a question...and that is...why do some people feel the need to make semantic arguments when it comes to forced bi or fem...none of us named it, we just use the terminology that was already in place when we came along...maybe it is about ruining it for some people...i often see the mindset my kink is ok but you are really fucked up, so i will make fun of your kink and what you call it.

Just my two cents.

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RE: forced feminization - 6/24/2006 5:04:42 AM   
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or maybe it was the fact that you insinuated Kimmie was no more than fantasy play for a closet queen.  If you honestly can't see that  the terminology is offensive, then Kimmie isn't the one with the problem.

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ORIGINAL: Euryanx

Forced feminization is a a fantasy for uptight closet queens who haven't the balls to use their own free will and just experiment with their gender identity.

I mean, come on. This is the year 2005. If you want to put on a dress, for God's sake, just try one on.

I tell my friends I am a "recovering transsexual." I took hormones for 8 years (under a doctor's care).

Assisyforher... not to disappoint you hon, but herbals are a waste of time. If you want real results, you need to see a doctor. What the Tgirls here told me to do was go into a doctors office, dressed like a woman, and say, "I want a sex change." When i did that, the doctor reached for his prescription pad and put me on premarin, provera and aldactone. He also advised me to see a shrink - which I never did. Well, not until much later. Which was a big mistake. I might have saved myself 5 years of electrolysis, and lots of other trials and tribulations if I'd found a good therapist right up front.

Can't say that I regret those 8 years. I look at it now like it was a temporary addiction. I was addicted to the desire to look "pretty." I was 20 pounds lighter, had long hair all the way down my back, and was able to walk the walk without getting 'clocked' for a long time... even dated a NY Ranger hockey player for 3 months one summer... I had a good, fun ride... I'm glad I did it when i was young, and it was possible to be pretty.

But when i went into Toby Meltzer's office (an SRS surgeon), and the whole idea of the surgery scared the crap out of me, I backed off, and realized that I was living a lie. Through therapy, i realized i wasn't so much a woman, as a failed man. (Not saying other TS's share my diagnosis... everyone is different)

Going back to being a man was just as hard as becoming a woman, but I am SO thankful that I went back.

Steve

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RE: forced feminization - 6/24/2006 5:06:27 AM   
sting516


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Sad thing is....this person really did seem to fit within their worldview at one time...sounds like the smoker who now abhors those around them who smoke...a bit of a hypocrite.

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ORIGINAL: kittencurious

quote:

ORIGINAL: Euryanx

Forced feminization is a a fantasy for uptight closet queens who haven't the balls to use their own free will and just experiment with their gender identity.

this is one of the most bigoted and asinine things i have ever read.
i can imagine the other terrible things you say about people who don't fit within your worldview.
if this forum ever has an ignore feature, you'll be first on my list.

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RE: forced feminzation - 6/24/2006 8:45:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sting516

OK...while i feel pretty sure stef meant this as a joke...i do have a question...and that is...why do some people feel the need to make semantic arguments when it comes to forced bi or fem...none of us named it, we just use the terminology that was already in place when we came along...maybe it is about ruining it for some people...i often see the mindset my kink is ok but you are really fucked up, so i will make fun of your kink and what you call it.

I'm not sure why you felt the need to dredge up a post I made over a year ago but allow me to set the record straight as to my intentions for that post.  It's not about "my kink is ok but you are really fucked up," it's more along the lines of "your kink defies basic logic and I'm not going to play along with it."

If you want someone to treat you in a certain way, and they do it, where is the force?  If you want to pretend you're being forced, knock yourself out.  Just don't be upset when others don't see it that way.  The justification behind "forced feminization" or "forced whatever" is that the forcee can mollify their own guilt over wanting to participate in a particular activity, that for whatever reason, they think is shameful.  They didn't have a choice because hey, they were forced!  So it's not their fault they had an erection the entire time they were being "forced" to participate and look forward to being "forced" to do this again.  Now they can go to sleep with a clear conscience.

It's a sham.

~stef

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