chiaThePet
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ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass
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DominaSmartass responded with this:
"Eh, lighten up. With all the bullshit we have to deal with from the 99% of subs who are liars, why not have fun talking about it? You're free to start a thread in the ask a slave forum about why so many dommes seem to be money hungry whores. That's totally up to you"
Perhaps in retrospect I was too harsh. Here, let me rephrase that original reply for you because I do stand by by sentiments:
chia: I am sorry that you seem to have a problem with a group of dominant women discussing in a light hearted manner a "line" that we get from males on this site and possibly others extremely often. If you are so sensitive that the idea of us joking about people whom you claim to not have anything in common with (later to become known as "pigmales" then I suggest you stop reading the forums because you will find yourself engaged in a 9 page battle for no good reason. However, let me remind you that it is your choice to post here or not and you are welcome to start any and all similar "griping" threads about dommes, for example, "why are so many dommes only in it for them money?" But I would appreciate it if you would not take a thread that was in no way intended to make a jab at you or any of the legitimate male subs and turn it into a whiny "why are they always insulting us when we do nothing wrong?" type thing because that is sure to lead to plenty of examples of what "you" (as in not YOU but referring to most submissive males) do wrong.
That is what I had intended to say in my first reply to you. Because I am pretty foul mouthed and loud mouthed, and because I didn't think that this whole thing would go flying out of proportion, I chose to say what came naturally to me. Like I said, I stand by my words and only apologize that I didn't take the time to compose a nice, sugar coated response that would not have incited such antagonistic reaction.
Hmmmmm, i almost feel a sense of Deja vu here.
i come in to find a post from You DS which
i feel is a one eighty from the letters
You sent me last night. i thought we had
mellowed a bit and we had agreed to talk
things over that we might better understand
one another. Forgive me if i'm wrong, but i
feel this post is contrary to what i was
hearing last night. i felt as though we had
made at least a noble attempt to quell the
madness and lower the intensity that we both
were contributing to. i don't see that effort
reflected here, in my opinion.
i didn't say the post was harsh DS, i just
felt my view as i stated it, wasn't really
that big a swing at anything. i simply
see alot of negative talk of submissives
here and i read the post as another version
of such. i was compelled to respond, and in
true chia* fashion, i added my own eloquence
and wit, i don't feel i was nasty or out of
line in the response i sent. The reply i got
however would have me believe i had somehow
maligned someone and was deserving of a slap.
That's how i view the reply i saw, not as a
harsh interjection, but a slap. i said in my
post to Ms Jo this morning that it was within
Your rights to do such. i just felt maybe it
didn't quite fit what i had said.
i must say DS, i have always enjoyed those
apologies which begin with, i am sorry that
"you", i feel like i'm still catching the
blame for something, not really hearing a
sincere regret. i don't have a problem
with a group of Dommes here, i simply took
the opportunity to offer my opinion of what
i consider to be a negative stance on alot
of what submissives do, instead of a focus
on good things to help form good relation-
ships for the good of all.
Light hearted is great, i feel my response
was light hearted, but i felt the reply i
received would lead one to believe i had
entered the room and shouted, "Bitch" or
the like. i can't do anything about those
men whom disregard proper protocol and fill
up all the mail boxes here with their crap,
but i feel as though they get all the
attention for whatever bad behavior they
choose to do. If i had a solution, trust
me, i'd be the first to hold innoculation
clinics worldworld to stem the flow of the
"asshole" virus. But alas, i do not, so i
simply wanted to advance my desire that the
good submissives start getting as much
exposure as the bad guys.
You are right that i am a sensitive boy, i
believe that is a wonderful trait for a
submissive to possess. i think if more
men had such sensitivity, the Dommes would
get less of those idiot emails in their
boxes. i don't think it's necessarily a
prerequisite to how i feel about all things
however. And no, i don't like to think of
myself as being included in that "pigmale"
population the Dommes here detest. And yes,
i said it, the term which i feel describes
the behavior which the Dommes here have
shared in this thread. i began referring
to such after some here began sharing details
which pretty much spoke of a man acting like
a pig. (ok, not the literal barnyard animal,
though i'm sure some can relate, but the
term as used by many to describe a type of
behavior. i apologize to those whom took
offense to my use of the word, i just felt
it fit the flow of my feelings toward the
individuals which were topic of conversation.
i guess i can just begin referring to them
as the "the others", so as not to offend any
specific identifiable group.
i don't think removing myself from the forums
really serves any purpose. We all come and
share, not always agreeing from what i can
see. And i don't think i will be the only
boy who will ever have an opposing view
to Your own. i Thank You for reminding me
that it is my choice to post here in the
forums, i was beginning to think that
maybe i had forgot to buy a ticket or
something, because i keep getting shown
the door. i see once again i am encouraged
to begin a post with a "gripe" intent and
subject in relation to the Dommes here.
And once again, it needs to contain the
word "money" in it. Thank You DS for the
continued support You offer for me to do
such, but it really isn't a priority i
feel compelled to pursue. i read the forums
just like everyone else here, i reply just
like eveyone else here, and i feel my reply
to the post You presented just wasn't out
of the context of others i read here.
i didn't feel like i was "jabbed" when i
read Your post, i felt like i was hearing
the same story, different date, and the
purpetrators were being identified once
again a submissives. i just gringe at
being grouped with "the others" who do
these things which annoy the Dommes.
When i read my reply to Your post, i can't
find any sense of whinning myself. i just
don't see it there, honestly, i don't.
A good example of when things go wrong,
is the way this thread escalated. Yes,
i will accept the blame for my role in
advancing such, a major player, if not
the worst one, which i will also claim
if viewed as such. i don't feel i was
alone here though in flinging mud and
madness about the room. i think it
started as simple fun, but quickly
became a personal attack on each other.
i apologize for my actions and for
any disrespect i leveled in the
course of that which i had only
intended to be fun, with a little
forehand service just to keep it
interesting. i don't like when i
see myself enter into the ugly
arena, regardless of what may draw
me there. In doing such, i simply
become like "the others". And my
entire thought process which found
me replying as i did to Your post,
was a desire that the good be put
forward over the bad. i then do
exactly that which i abhore, i
became bad, no matter the reason,
no matter how i felt about the
way things were advancing, no
matter if i had just cause, i
became the very thing i wished
would disappear from the attention.
i do not like to be foul-mouthed Ds,
and honestly do not find it a
complimentary trait in Women, i
feel it makes them also like the
others. Just my opinion on that one.
i see You offer me a second apology,
which i feel really is nothing more
than a toss of sarcasm, therefore,
i don't see an apology in it at all.
But that's ok, what is done is done.
Heck, i almost felt like i was married
again for a while there. Not knocking
marriage here i must say, i was
betrothed for eleven years myself.
Unfortunately when things go wrong,
it is what one tends to remember as
such most often happens at the finish.
i really did hold hope last night DS,
i felt we were at least making an
attempt at civility with each other
in our emails. We a least agreed that
we didn't hate each other, though the
movie everyone got to see for free
certainly spoke the opposite. i held
hope last night DS, and looked forward
to IMing with You today, but what i
feel is written here just reminds me
of the last couple of days. As much
as i like to have fun, and as much
as i thrive on exchange, i don't
like when i become desensitized to
the feelings of others. Therefore
DS, i will leave the conversation
here, foregoing the IM, choosing to
be with my wonderful son whom is
elated that school is over. i can
smile and laugh with him too, only
there, no one is getting hurt.
Have a great day DS, see You in the
forums, wave and say hi, or anything
else You want to share. i'll try to
keep it at a minimum if i have an
opposing view to Your own, but i
don't think either one of us wishes
to tip-toe around the other. And
i certainly won't turn down a good
game of frisbee wit if someone
throws it to me!:)
As i said last night, You got gumption
Girl, and i like a Girl with gumption.
Born to serve, chia* (the pet)
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