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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/1/2007 6:27:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

But you are bitching about it...

Nooo... asking for support because the path I have chosen for myself is bumpy today is different that spending all my time complaining and doing nothing. 
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It was you that entered & remained in a marriage where you were unfulfilled. It was you that fell into a grove & traveled it for X amount of years & now...


You make lots and lots of asumptions about things you know nothing of.  My staying in my marriage was a reflection of my character true, but it was a reflection of my strength of character.
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all of a sudden you jump out of this rut & suddenly you expect immediate gratification of having your very own dominant & curse the subs who have their own?


Did I curse?  Not being able or willing to focus on others joy for a minute is a far cry from cursing.   I believe it is a reflection of my maturity to know that at this moment, this is my need and so i got to an appropriate place to get it filled rather than.... just going to the fullfilled subs and resenting them.
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The D/s world doesn't owe you back wages for time served in the vanilla world.


Many of these girls spent the last 11 years (or more) actively looking for their dominant & they have every right in the world to carry on about how wonderful life is with their partner.

Yes and all of that is irrelevant.  I never made comment about time.. YOU did.  I simply responded.  I would also point out that people find themselves single and looking irregardless of the amount of "time served" in the lifestyle. 
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First tip... dump this shoulda, coulda, woulda attitude & live in the present.You can't change those 11 yrs & if you continue resenting them & yourself for existing in them...


I didn't bring them up with a negative tone.. again, that was you my dear.  I simple brought up a bit of my history as fact. 
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you'll carry so much negative energy around that you will repel any dominant you encounter.

On the contrary, I tend to have to work to repel them. Attracting Dom's has not been an issue.  (might be after they read this! LOL)  Another reflection of who i am i suppose.  That I refuse to settle simply out of impatience or lonleness. 
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You are accountable for your actions & choices.

nothing in anything i have ever written will imply otherwise.  I'm a big fan of personal accountability.
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I have been aware of my role for 20 yrs now. In all those years I have not had one sub after another... I spent many years single. Yeah, imagine that... a non-pro, fairly attractive, female dominant who isn't into financial or material gain was completely single for several years because I couldn't find a submissive that matched me in those special ways that so many like to talk about.


Did you ever have a lonely day during this time?  And when you did, did you reach out?  If you reached out.. what response did you get?  Just wondering.......

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So while I was single I continued to work on improving myself. I built friendships. I did many things & had many wonderful experiences that I wouldn't trade for an instant & then one day... I finally met someone to share all that I had become with.

You may not want to hear it but it is the one thing you need to hear & apply to your situation... be patient. SO there... you didn't hear it from
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yet another happily collared sub
you heard it from a dominant.


Oh damn!  Time to spank myself again. 


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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/1/2007 6:38:58 AM   
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And this bitch-about-it-inaction thing is something you attribute to women in general?

 
No.... I was responding to a specific question.  I was asked if I was male or female.  I replied. Im a girl.  And then i elaborated on why i posted what i did. 
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Perhaps Im not getting the gist of your meaning, but it seems like you are saying "Im unlike other women in that I prefer to take action." That, coupled with this last statement suggests you are saying that "women bitch about things instead of taking action". I just want to understand your implication.

I would also caution against equating "having patience and working on yourself" with "not taking action". In my own experience, and under certain circumstances, I have found them to be about as dissimilar as possible.


I agree.  It isn't that I am not doing the things I need to be doing.  It is that doing it can be a hard, lonely road some days, and a little encouragement can go a long way to help me keep my focus.  hence the name of the thread. 
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Being still, present in the moment and remaining open may not seem like a "doing" (and there is certainly something to be said for stillness and presence as intentional non-doing) but it can be, especially for those who don't find this sort of being a naturally comfortable thing, quite a feat.



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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/1/2007 7:00:25 AM   
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And in the process I've found that by focusing on things that are important to me it has made me a calmer, more controlled person.  If/when an awesome person steps into my life.....I think I'm ready.


I've been working on more self discipline and focusing on smaller things myself - it seems to help even when being in a relationship.

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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/1/2007 7:23:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ExtremeOwnerIL

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied
And in the process I've found that by focusing on things that are important to me it has made me a calmer, more controlled person.  If/when an awesome person steps into my life.....I think I'm ready.


I've been working on more self discipline and focusing on smaller things myself - it seems to help even when being in a relationship.

Regards,
EO


Yes, I hear you guys.    I've been super stressed as of late and trying very hard to hang on to what i love.  You are probably refering to something else but this brings to mind my martial arts and meditation training.  I have not been giving it the attention I should.  thanks for the reminder.

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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/1/2007 7:42:50 AM   
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You are probably refering to something else but this brings to mind my martial arts and meditation training.


No, not at all.  I'm talking about surrounding yourself and making a life with things that are good for you.  This way you can be happy at your core and not dependent on another person (or relationship) to make you happy.  You'd be surprised at how easy it is to find contentment after you let go of the nonsense.  For me, the nonsense was in wrapping my self-worth around whether another person found me relationship-worthy.  This was a huge step for me and I had to overcome a lot of negative thoughts that I held about myself.  So, if martial arts and meditation work, that is great.  It's the little things, added together that can make a big difference.


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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/1/2007 10:00:30 AM   
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Makes good sense! While it didn't take 11 years for me it did take, about 5 years to find the Dominant I had now. And I actually wasn't looking for him I just stumbled onto him in chat on alt lol.


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Im a girl.  Was mentioning that i like to take action.  Not a real fan of bitch about it, then bitch about it when nothing changes. 


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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/1/2007 10:45:37 AM   
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pop round to my house next tuesday, octavia, i might have an opening for you, we could practice being on our own together;>)

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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/1/2007 11:12:10 AM   
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As it has been said, you can't really avoid the happy subbies on this end. :P

I understand where you're at and all, I think most of us probably do.  Though you have expressed you don't like the advice, it's the truth... be patient and someone who works for you will come along. :) 
Keep on trying, and get out there and go to those munches!  It's ok to be afraid, it's NOT ok to let that fear paralyze you.. and yes, I am aware I cannot spell.  Go go!  Now!  Shoo!

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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/1/2007 11:15:58 AM   
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Just be happy you're not from Jersey.  The pickens are really slim in the tri-state area.

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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/1/2007 11:48:45 AM   
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I read an article about "sub frenzy" which is essentially a concept similar to something I've seen a lot in the gay world. . . when people first come out and they go a bit crazy and end up doing a lot of stupid things with random people because they've finally found where they fit in. . .  maybe this is how you're feeling now you're free to explore your submission? You crave it... you just want to get right out there and into it? I don't know if this is you but if so, just don't lose your common sense because almost everyone I've seen do this has ended up in bad situations or doing something they later regretted with someone who wasn't worth it.

Oh and I agree with LA... EVERY time I get into a relationship, I have not been looking for it or wanted it at the time! But then it turns out great

Good luck!

here's the link... http://www.submissiveloving.com/subfrenzy.html

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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/3/2007 10:27:02 AM   
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Talk to the munch organizer ahead of time, ask them to introduce you so you won't be so much of a fish out of water. Instead of just filling out a profile, and waiting for the perfect man to read yours and contact you, why don't you be proactive? Read profiles and write to people who interest you.

For that matter search other sub profiles for unattached types in your area and start up a friendship. Then the two of you could walk into the munch together or arrange to meet there. That way you would be less nervous.

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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/3/2007 10:37:58 AM   
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Talk to the munch organizer ahead of time, ask them to introduce you so you won't be so much of a fish out of water. Instead of just filling out a profile, and waiting for the perfect man to read yours and contact you, why don't you be proactive? Read profiles and write to people who interest you.

For that matter search other sub profiles for unattached types in your area and start up a friendship. Then the two of you could walk into the munch together or arrange to meet there. That way you would be less nervous.

Yes.  I have done/ am doing many of these things.  There are other variables at play as far as the muches go however.  There is one tomorrow in my area that Im concidering attending.  Still a little unsure if I will fit in there.  Groups tend to have personalities and I'm not sure that mine will fit with the local group.  I guess I won't know until I go.  I just dread it like you cant believe though.  I have become the first date queen and frankly it will be just like another blind first date for me.  Just showing up to see if I have anything in common with this group. 

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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/3/2007 11:00:02 AM   
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I would say this as one of those people that you did not want to hear from (someone that is seeing a Dom). If I were you I would make a list of the qualities of the person you want in your life and then become that list. If you want funny, find the humor in things, if you want kind, be kind. If you desire intelligence, learn something new... etc etc etc... and then picture the person that is like you in their energy coming into your life. That is what I did, it worked pretty quickly. I did not tell myself I was happy alone, I just told myself I was going to be happy regardless. I sincerely think that telling the universe that I was happy by myself led to me being by myself... Picture yourself at the end of your goal. Picture yourself in the dynamic that would suit your needs.

One last word of advice... contact the submissives in your area for friendship so you will not feel alone going to events, munches, etc. That way you can make friends in the lifestyle without feeling vulnerable by yourself... kinda like having a friend to go dancing with.

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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/11/2007 7:40:33 PM   
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i think i would go insane(ok more insane), if i worried that much about being alone. what i desire if life were just exactly as i would like it, i allow it to overcome me occasionally on weekends-lol.

i have discovered if you make your own life happy, and find contentment, things happen at exactly the time they were meant to.  might not be when i wanted it-or thought i did-but it always happens.

and in the meantime-every day not pushing up daisies is a great one.

so at the risk of doing what you were trying to avoid by posting in this forum, i will say just live and be content in your own skin....i am sure what you seek will find you exactly when it should.

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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/11/2007 8:41:45 PM   
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octavia, since you asked for advice, here you go:

1.  If you ask for advice and people give you a ration of shit, w/ or w/out advice, don't respond back.  It just makes you look bad.  If you asking for advice opens the door to someone criticising your values, rather than offering advice, just take it.

2.  All that shit about "Don't worry about meeting someone, enjoy your life, cram roses up your ass and smile!"--feel free to fucking ignore it.  Some people do not hunger for intimacy the way others do.  Some people can take time, let things come to them, and be satisfied in other relationships, other pursuits. For some people, not being in  relationship is a relief--it gives them space to do other stuff. 

For some of us, and I'm guessing your space is similar to mine, to not be connected in intimacy, to be hungry for that kind of closeness and not have it, is terrible.  It is literally an unmooring.  My slave asked for her relaease on Dec. 18th of last year.  I am no longer whole in the way I was.  I know people who don't need another person in eros to be whole--fucking A for them.  If you're like me, and need that closeness to be whole, it isn't ok.

It hurts.

3.  That being said, feel free to feel however the fuck you want.  Feel low and discouraged if you want, because it sucks to have life suck.  Do NOT force a relationship from loneliness, because as sucky as it is to be unmoored in intimacy, fractured intimacy, a ruptured, wrongly joined BDSM relationship is damaging.  Dont do it.  You have no choice but to be patient.

4. Put up pics of yourself.  Check--you've done that.

5.  Be hot.  Check--you've done that.

6.  Add to, or re-write your profile to include a picture of your intimacy framework, and your space within BDSM.  You asked how to find a Dom, and like it or don't, this isn't Match.com.  You have described some of your personality characteristics, and soemthing of your current condition.  I think because your profile gives no clue if you are a masochist, interested in bondage, service oriented, etc, it's got to be off-putting to some men.  Maybe as a tabula rosa it is inviting to some--they can project onto you or hope for what they desire.  But for a person who knows they can only connect with a masochist, or who knows they are moved by service, or who is so enthusiastic about bondage that it needs to be a key part of the relationship, they very well might not write to you.

If you write down, I dunno, that you need a strict, forceful Daddy type who can be very loving to you, but also punish you when you break rules, and give direction, maybe there wil be some chamleon whose like "ZOMG I'ma  Daddy Dom what a coinky-dink!"  But you will also have the man who self-identifies that way know you match him.

Good luck.

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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/11/2007 9:29:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Faramir

octavia, since you asked for advice, here you go:

1.  If you ask for advice and people give you a ration of shit, w/ or w/out advice, don't respond back.  It just makes you look bad.  If you asking for advice opens the door to someone criticising your values, rather than offering advice, just take it.

2.  All that shit about "Don't worry about meeting someone, enjoy your life, cram roses up your ass and smile!"--feel free to fucking ignore it.  Some people do not hunger for intimacy the way others do.  Some people can take time, let things come to them, and be satisfied in other relationships, other pursuits. For some people, not being in  relationship is a relief--it gives them space to do other stuff. 

For some of us, and I'm guessing your space is similar to mine, to not be connected in intimacy, to be hungry for that kind of closeness and not have it, is terrible.  It is literally an unmooring.  My slave asked for her relaease on Dec. 18th of last year.  I am no longer whole in the way I was.  I know people who don't need another person in eros to be whole--fucking A for them.  If you're like me, and need that closeness to be whole, it isn't ok.

It hurts.

3.  That being said, feel free to feel however the fuck you want.  Feel low and discouraged if you want, because it sucks to have life suck.  Do NOT force a relationship from loneliness, because as sucky as it is to be unmoored in intimacy, fractured intimacy, a ruptured, wrongly joined BDSM relationship is damaging.  Dont do it.  You have no choice but to be patient.

4. Put up pics of yourself.  Check--you've done that.

5.  Be hot.  Check--you've done that.

6.  Add to, or re-write your profile to include a picture of your intimacy framework, and your space within BDSM.  You asked how to find a Dom, and like it or don't, this isn't Match.com.  You have described some of your personality characteristics, and soemthing of your current condition.  I think because your profile gives no clue if you are a masochist, interested in bondage, service oriented, etc, it's got to be off-putting to some men.  Maybe as a tabula rosa it is inviting to some--they can project onto you or hope for what they desire.  But for a person who knows they can only connect with a masochist, or who knows they are moved by service, or who is so enthusiastic about bondage that it needs to be a key part of the relationship, they very well might not write to you.

If you write down, I dunno, that you need a strict, forceful Daddy type who can be very loving to you, but also punish you when you break rules, and give direction, maybe there wil be some chamleon whose like "ZOMG I'ma  Daddy Dom what a coinky-dink!"  But you will also have the man who self-identifies that way know you match him.

Good luck.


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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/11/2007 9:36:10 PM   
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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/11/2007 9:48:19 PM   
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Octavia,

Glad to see you took my advice to heart, your profile is looking good, it is obviously attracting attention, now you just have to figure a way to screen out the idiots, a much harder task, even on collarme.

As for local events, get off your ass and go.  You know what, you are going to be disappointed with what you find there.  Tough it out, the kind you are looking for often doesn't attend frequently.  What you want to do is go often enough word gets out that an interesting woman is showing up and friends will tell friends and the male equivalent of you will start coming out of the woodwork. 

Go slow, you can't go wrong attending events stag, perhaps volunteering, etc.  No dating = no drama which is good.  It amazes me how many come into the scene, bounce around a while, cause a bit of drama and then have to deal with seeing their ex partners around town all worried about who is saying what.  Watch and learn, don't be stupid enough to be suckered into training or mentoring with some nitwit.  Advice should be free and free of strings, beware of those offering to take you under their wings, just be a free agent, show you are a well adjusted adult and the ones you seek will find you.

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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/11/2007 10:46:03 PM   
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most of us "happily collared subs", have felt the same frustration that you have at some point.  successful relationships dont occur overnight.  they take lots of hard work. perhaps you keep on making the wrong choices in your relationships because you allow your frustration to color the way you're looking at things. you know in your heart and mind that the "doing something stupid " thing is just a way for you to justify the behavior you really dont want to do. prior to meeting Master i concentrated on me.  i read a lot, took classes in things that interested me and tried to make myself a more well rounded person. although i wanted to be in a relationship, i realized that i was whole and complete, just without a partner.  although i know many have said this before me, practicing patience is valuable.  start liking yourself and be confident in what you have to offer an SO.  you mght just be surprised at who or what finds you, or what you find.

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RE: need some encouragment... - 6/11/2007 11:08:23 PM   
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I started to send you a private message, but decided that what I want to say should be posted out here for all to see.
I get so tired of people coming in here and asking for encouragement and advice only to be trampled on by the same people who continually skip from one post to the other looking for their next victim.
I'm thinking more like Farimir, but a little more 'delicate' perhaps?  I know exactly how you feel.  I spent too many years in a vanilla marriage with a man who didn't feel the need for intimacy the way I did.  I was always going on vacations/trips by myself or with the kids while he worked.  I would look around me and see all the happy couples and it just made me all the more miserable.  I had lots of friends who would tell me to just go out and do my own thing.  Well, that's not the way I am.  I'm just not happy living by myself (which is essentially was what I was doing).  I tried, I really did.  I need someone in my life.  I crave intimacy.  I got a divorce and started all over again.  I decided that this time I wasn't going to settle for anything less than the whole package.  And I didn't.  And I don't think you will either.
Going to munches by yourself is DAMN hard!  It was hard for my hubby and I to go to our first one together.  I can only imagine how much harder it would have been to go by myself.  BUT....ya gotta do it.  (And I think you know that already.)  I believe there were some good suggestions about getting to know some people ahead of time.  That's a great idea.  And you're absolutely right about groups each having their own personality.  There are some groups I love to do things with and others I find nothing in common with at all.  Problem is you've got to go a few times before you can figure that out.  Domiguy makes a good point about word of mouth too.  The more events I went to, the more people I got to know and it very quickly snowballed.  People would actually tell me they came because they were hoping I would be there.  I've finally reached the point where I'm not afraid to go anywhere by myself because I'm quite sure someone I know will be there, and usually several.!
You're a beautiful girl and you handle yourself well.  I'm impressed with how you handled the 'cannibals' in this post.  You seem to have your wits about you and you're obviously no dummy.  You're just going through a tough period.  This too shall pass.  And while you're waiting, take a look through the Dom profiles.  There are new people joining every day. 
You have a well written profile now, some good pics, and most importantly you're putting yourself out there.  Keep your chin up hon.  Things WILL get better.
Mistress Scarlet 

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