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chyanna -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/8/2008 10:21:25 PM)

I am overweight sub who has just been collared by pettrainer66 but mine is due to intensive steroids due to MS still i do loose some then out come the steroids, luckily Master loves me for who i am not what i look like all he calls me is a little monkey lol




snugglepet -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/9/2008 12:18:38 AM)

This has been an experience for me in the past, and in one case it was consensual for health reasons something i had requested assistance with, in the other case it was you are ugly and fat and you need to change you will eat only what you are told to eat, only when you are told to eat it and you will work out every day 6x a week and you will do these exercises and report your weight every week.  This is of course the worst case, and he of course did not take into account the fact that i am a woman and hormones affect weight gain through water retention and bloating and other horomonal freak attacks that are viciously placed upon women.  Needless to say the one where it was a request made by me was successful, because he was helping me get to a place that i wanted to be, the other one served only to make me crazy, have a breakdown and gain weight because i felt completely denied.
This is of course not the first or only time i have come across Dom's who attempt to control or enforce weight control or restrictions.  For some it works, of course it depends on how open the sub is to the concept and how compassionate the Dom is to the idea of weight loss, and the reasons they have behind it.




Justme696 -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/9/2008 12:38:07 AM)

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How many Dominants enforce weight control?


yes on myself




Pyrrsefanie -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/9/2008 12:53:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

Okay I am taking a big risk here, and I am not trying to start
another friggin fat thread.
Thus said, I am in the process of buying a bathing suit and getting
ready for a long, hot summer and many fun times in the pool.
Of course, I want/need to lose at least 10-15 pounds to feel more comfortable
in my bathing suit.
I wonder if it would be easier, IF I was a submissive and had a Master to help,
make and exert control over what I eat. [&o]
How many Masters {men and women} are able to enforce and control their
submissives weight and influence their dietary habits?
Thank you in advance, now let me eat a few more chips and find a cold brew.
[:D]


I've only just made it back down to what I consider an acceptable size for myself (I've lost a little more than 20 pounds), so I really wish you lots of luck in getting your bikini body!  It's tough, but worth it.  And I can honestly say that once you give up the junk food, you stop thinking about it.  I never thought I'd ever be able to say that!

When it comes to allowing another person control over your diet or your health, it's important to make sure that they understand what they're doing and know how to do it in a safe way.  He or she should understand your personal needs when it comes to nutrition, as they may vary based on age, health, etc.  Any supplements that you begin taking should be cross-checked against prescription medications to make sure there are no interactions.  For example, St. John's Wort can nullify the effects of birth control pills.  [8|]

It's definitely easier, at least for me, to have someone else there to keep me on the straight and narrow.  You may ask, "But Pyrr, you're a dominant, how on Earth do you justify giving control over your diet and exercise routine to your boy?!"

Simple.  He's a certified personal trainer/nutritionist.  And for every pound I gain while following his wonderful plan to the letter, I get to beat him. 





chyanna -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/9/2008 7:54:32 AM)

snugglepet, not enough men, Doms out there see the good in cuddly ladies its all stockings basques and legs to their asses, the larger lady is made to feel on the outside by those who say urgh i dont want a fat sub,,,,,,,its biased and those people are shallow minded biggots!!
(if i get into trouble for this so be it, it is how i feel)




submissivemomma -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/9/2008 8:09:49 AM)

I am in the early part of my 3rd trimester and my Daddy has said that after my son is born he is going to help me lose the weight. I suffered from an eating disorder when I was younger I knnow that He is going to keep a close eye on what and eat and what I do just to make sure no old habbits come back.




Justme696 -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/9/2008 8:10:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: chyanna

,,,,,,,its biased and those people are shallow minded biggots!!
(if i get into trouble for this so be it, it is how i feel)


you respond the same as the peopel you judge about ;)  but you won;t get trouble.
some like large girls, others not. Some like red, some like blue.




submissivemomma -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/9/2008 8:21:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: chyanna

snugglepet, not enough men, Doms out there see the good in cuddly ladies its all stockings basques and legs to their asses, the larger lady is made to feel on the outside by those who say urgh i dont want a fat sub,,,,,,,its biased and those people are shallow minded biggots!!
(if i get into trouble for this so be it, it is how i feel)

Speaking as someone who has had issues with this I can honestly say that the media has a lot to do with this. My issues started when I was 11...come one people...what 11 year old should be worried about her weight? It took a long time to learn to love my hips and my butt and everything else that is beautiful about me. I say BRAVO to anyone...men or women...who can stand up and love their body because its not always easy





slavekahlan -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/9/2008 10:11:20 AM)

It is disheartening in all respects how one is viewed by their outward aesthetics without consideration for medical issues, genetics, age, stress {adds weight}and the like. i was taught to believe that it is the whole person and not the "eye candy" aspect that is often touted. It can work in reverse as well, i have seen individuals "attacked" for being thin...it is a matter of preference guaranteed yet should not compromise one's health or well being at any level. i say with all due respect i have yet to see the "perfect" man physically {aside from my Master} unless he is walking down the runway for Calvin Klein or Armani or on GQ (which is airbrushed)..

i developed an eating disorder in undergrad college and it can be a constant struggle when being evaluated by others, even with positive support. To enforce weight limits without a request for help, without adequate education as a nutritionist, trainer, doctor, specialist, psychologist, psychiatrist....without the proper supports in place is setting the scenario for failure, for regression, for degredation that is unjustified. i apologize for digressing, it is becoming sickening that to be viewed by the majority you have to be without an imperfection, must be within "weight limits", or having not yet reached puberty or womanhood. You respect and value all lives, all souls.




boytoy4female -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/9/2008 10:35:16 AM)

Maybe I should become dominant. Because, I am finding the thought of all these women exercising at my command, in plug harnesses and collars quite stimulating. I wonder if the Better Business Bureau will give me a loan for a submissive's gymn.




MzMia -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/9/2008 8:07:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: boytoy4female

Maybe I should become dominant. Because, I am finding the thought of all these women exercising at my command, in plug harnesses and collars quite stimulating. I wonder if the Better Business Bureau will give me a loan for a submissive's gymn.


It might be a great idea!
Dominant's would be great trainers and would make the submissives work hard! [:D]

[sm=sm.gif]            




EchoPet -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/9/2008 10:52:34 PM)

My Sir regulates my diet and exercise.  For the most part, food preparations are up to him, and he decides the portions as well.  He also assigns me daily exercise - cardio and weights.  While this is something I want for myself, it helps me to have the direction of my Master.  I've had a long history of disordered eating/body image, so mostly his control over what I eat has to do with making sure that I do eat.  I'm not allowed to finish a meal until he's approved how much I've eaten, and sometimes I'm told I need to eat more before I'm allowed to clean off my plate in the sink.  I have gained a little weight since I've started eating more for him, and that's been hard on my body-image.  Of course because of my issues, sometimes I have to reassure myself that his workout assignments aren't reflecting a dissatisfaction with my looks, but rather a desire to help me reach my own goals for a toned body because he loves me.  Right now the two of us are not focusing on any specific weight measured by a number for me, but instead an overall look (since when I first started building more muscle, the higher number on the scale was very threatening to me - he doesn't want me to obsess over numbers, just on toning and shaping).  My Master knows all of my history though, so he is prepared and knows what he's dealing with.  I would be less comfortable with someone having this sort of control if they weren't sensitive to my issues about weight and eating.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/9/2008 11:29:05 PM)

I feel that weight awareness is something important for evern kids to know, but not to worry and obsess about an make oneself ill about, but just in general to know what's healthy an what's not. I've seen far to many little kids and middle age kids weighing in at 200 around here at taco bell an stuff, an it's concerning. So if not at a young age when should we teach children about health and healthy eating?
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Speaking as someone who has had issues with this I can honestly say that the media has a lot to do with this. My issues started when I was 11...come one people...what 11 year old should be worried about her weight? It took a long time to learn to love my hips and my butt and everything else that is beautiful about me. I say BRAVO to anyone...men or women...who can stand up and love their body because its not always easy






Daddyslilpookie -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/10/2008 10:42:05 AM)

Master does not inforce weight control because for one he thinks I am beautiful just the way I am all 5'7 140 pounds of me which is pure muscle I work out to keep my muscle and not lose weight, If I lost weight I would lose my boobs and Master loves them lol. Master said before I had our daughter I was way to skinny and lanky he likes the voluptuous me the best[;)]




YourhandMyAss -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/10/2008 11:10:36 AM)

For me it wouldn't be about him not likeing me or thinking I was beautiful, it'd be about ME wanting the help to moniter my health and in turn happyness. I'd feel the same way if I was skinny but ate really bad food choices and was "natually skinny" and didn't do any exorcise or nothing. Plus if he enjoys eating healthy and working out and health regiments, which he'd need to in order to control mine, it'd be a way to bond and spend time together, for  me:)
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ORIGINAL: Daddyslilpookie

Master does not inforce weight control because for one he thinks I am beautiful just the way I am




respectyourowner -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/10/2008 12:24:10 PM)

I check my slave once a week. If she puts on any weight then I adjust her diet. She must only eat what I tell her so weight control is not a problem. I intend to get a new slave and I will keep her on a strict diet. If she is over weight when I get her then it will be a real diet until she is of normal weight.

I want my slave(s) at a healthy weight.



quote:

ORIGINAL:

MzMia

Okay I am taking a big risk here, and I am not trying to start
another friggin fat thread.
Thus said, I am in the process of buying a bathing suit and getting
ready for a long, hot summer and many fun times in the pool.
Of course, I want/need to lose at least 10-15 pounds to feel more comfortable
in my bathing suit.
I wonder if it would be easier, IF I was a submissive and had a Master to help,
make and exert control over what I eat. [&o]
How many Masters {men and women} are able to enforce and control their
submissives weight and influence their dietary habits?
Thank you in advance, now let me eat a few more chips and find a cold brew.
[:D]




camille65 -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/10/2008 12:31:39 PM)

It's not always easy to maintain and especially to lose weight. How do you handle it when there is a struggle with weight even though she is cooperating?I'm genuinely curious, not being snarky.




slavekahlan -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/10/2008 1:39:04 PM)

If i may, every individual is different. Even when someone is motivating and trying to maintain a healthy weight through a healthy lifestyle other factors may be inclusive: medical challenges, genetics, stress can add weight, loss of sleep, eating wrong combination of food, not getting enough nutrients & vitamins to name a few. Body cleansing can work for some to rid the body of toxins that build up and may be impeding the process {it does not work for everyone}.

i have stated it before and i apologize for repeating it; i have severe fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue which despite my best efforts my body's chemistry has changed and reacts differently to changes in "dieting" by going into a survival mode which makes it more difficult to reduce. In addition i was a very active individual prior to these diseases and now have to be aware of my level of capabilities despite a strong motivation. By no means am i justifying my weight i am respectfully stating how issues that are beyond our control can impede progression.




erebus -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/10/2008 2:29:42 PM)

This is a huge issue for Americans and, increasingly, with the entire world.

When you think about it, obesity is a recent phenomenon.  For most of the history of life on the planet, success belonged to those living things that had enough to eat to successfully reproduce.  Now, most of the world is not faced with starvation, it is faced with dying of obesity-related diseases, most of which crop up after the prime age of fertility has passed. 

Primates that existed a million years ago did not have ice cream and Doritos.  Humans who migrated to Europe 100,000 years ago did not eat 100 pounds of sugar a year.  Americans 500 years ago could not drive to McDonald's for a double cheeseburger.

Health is the key, and if healthy eating and moderate exercise is incorporated in one's life as a habit, a natural and healthy weight will follow. 

The easiest way is to not buy it in the first place.  Let someone who doesn't have a desire for ice cream, snack foods and unhealthy products do the shopping.  Perhaps you could employ a personal cook and/or shopper.  Shopping on-line and have food delivered by someone like Safeway can remove the temptations that are ever-present in the super market.

I must say that all of my partners have been healthy, active, and interested in putting only healthy food in their bodies.  We stayed active together, hiking, biking, etc.  Make that part of your life.

(I will say trying to control someone's eating by psychological manipulation or nagging can lead to anorexia or bulimia; one must be careful.  I'd personally not incorporate weight control into punishment or bdsm 'play'.)




YourhandMyAss -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/10/2008 9:25:50 PM)

that is IF there's no other exsiting problems and your weight is from overeating and unhealthy eating. Diet and exorcise is not always the key to weight loss.

For me   if will power in not buying the food was an issue I'd rather just learn to control my sweet tooth an not let it control me than always having to have someone else shop for me or not go to the grocery store or only shop online, cause shopping online still provides you with options to buy sweets and every junk food that stores do. Fortunately not buying it isn't the issue for me. I can quite easily go into stores and pass up isle after isle after isle of those premade cakes and bakery cakes and doughnuts an all that shit. Sweets and stuff like that are not my issue, not eating much at all and only eating microwavable foods and having no interest in anything but microwave foods IS my problem lol.
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ORIGINAL: erebus

This is a huge issue for Americans and, increasingly, with the entire world.

When you think about it, obesity is a recent phenomenon.  For most of the history of life on the planet, success belonged to those living things that had enough to eat to successfully reproduce.  Now, most of the world is not faced with starvation, it is faced with dying of obesity-related diseases, most of which crop up after the prime age of fertility has passed. 

Primates that existed a million years ago did not have ice cream and Doritos.  Humans who migrated to Europe 100,000 years ago did not eat 100 pounds of sugar a year.  Americans 500 years ago could not drive to McDonald's for a double cheeseburger.

Health is the key, and if healthy eating and moderate exercise is incorporated in one's life as a habit, a natural and healthy weight will follow. 

The easiest way is to not buy it in the first place.  Let someone who doesn't have a desire for ice cream, snack foods and unhealthy products do the shopping.  Perhaps you could employ a personal cook and/or shopper.  Shopping on-line and have food delivered by someone like Safeway can remove the temptations that are ever-present in the super market.

I must say that all of my partners have been healthy, active, and interested in putting only healthy food in their bodies.  We stayed active together, hiking, biking, etc.  Make that part of your life.

(I will say trying to control someone's eating by psychological manipulation or nagging can lead to anorexia or bulimia; one must be careful.  I'd personally not incorporate weight control into punishment or bdsm 'play'.)




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