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slavekahlan -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/11/2008 5:01:12 AM)

"It's not always easy to maintain and especially to lose weight. How do you handle it when there is a struggle with weight even though she is cooperating?
I'm genuinely curious, not being snarky."

If i may ask has she had a complete physical by a well rounded physican {not all physicans are well versed in their field}, talked to nutritionist, personal trainer, found an activity that is desireable? It sounds as if you are quite supportive and are looking for proactive measures to improve her health as well as self esteem which is wonderful.




KnightRaven -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/13/2008 9:02:56 PM)

Thank you those are also good concepts too keep in mind, I wanted to keep things a little simpler to allow for others to ask for more information if that was what they sought.



reeducated -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/13/2008 9:36:56 PM)

i am quite slender, and have been told by some that i'm too skinny. Perhaps a caring Domme might supervise my diet & weigh me regularly to monitor my weight.



MzMia -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/13/2008 9:39:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: reeducated

i am quite slender, and have been told by some that i'm too skinny. Perhaps a caring Domme might supervise my diet & weigh me regularly to monitor my weight.


Welcome to the boards reeducated, at your height and weight, you are thin.
The right Dominant, might help you gain a few pounds, but some of us like slender men.
[:D]



BigDirty -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/14/2008 4:46:59 AM)

People have commented on my slaves being bigger and older but honestly, they like me because I do have a weight standard and the know that I monitor that very often, weight lose and thngs like that.  On the other hand, if you read my profile is says alot



NJsyr -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/17/2008 11:22:06 AM)

It can be surprising how hard it can be when there is a real medical problem underlining the weight gain.



IronBear -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/17/2008 5:20:55 PM)

How many Dominants enforce weight control?

The same number of Dominants as it takes to change a light bulb! [8|][8|][8|][8|][sm=car.gif]

Iron Bear
Master of Bruin Cottage
(A Victorian Lifestyle poly home)

"I judge a Man by what I see him do and not by what others tell me he does." (Captain Sir Edward Pellew of the HMS Indefatigable to Midshipman Hornblower ~ C.S. Forrester)







PrincessEllie -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/18/2008 8:25:44 AM)

I will answer for my Dom as he does not frequent Collarme.
My Dom and I help each other stay healthy. Neither of us are overweight, and technically, I'm underweight. We do not diet, we just try and help each other eat healthy food. My Dom did track, but he hurt his leg and now only polevaults. We try and help each other excercise and eat well so we can prevent becoming fat. I think having the support of a Dom and the help of one is good, but the help of a close friend or vanilla significant other is just as effective.



PoisonBeatrice -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/21/2008 7:34:48 AM)

My partner has a weight rule to keep my healthy enough for ropes. I teach a lot of movement and can get underweight, and then he cannot do safe ropes, as I am delicate and my nerves are easily impinged. So I have a weight range I am allowed, 118-122. If I get above it, I just take a day or two to eat healthier. If I get below it, much of my play interests stop and food is of most importance, so I am with enough extra tissue to go into ropes.

Cheers

Beatrice



Seniorwolf -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/21/2008 11:17:31 AM)

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How many Dominants enforce weight control?

Let's add another Dom to the list [8|]

But first let me make this clear, I do not enforce any rules or standards unless I hold myself to the same standard.
There was a time where I weighed 210lbs at 5'8", which is a tad overweight[:@]. At this time, I told my sub she needed to lose some weight because she was getting a bit chunky(we are no longer together lol go figure). In a moment of anger and frustration, she said, "Why do I have to lose the weight and you don't:"
   That was an eye opening experience for me, it made me rethink and retool my life as a man and as a Dom.

How could I expect to help my sub/slave improve in daily life when I was not improving or being a good example?

How could I expect her to loose weight or go back to school if I did not do the same or had already accomplished what I required of her?

Before I set any standard, I ask myself the following questions:

Before I send anyone else out on a new journey I ask, "Have I tested the road and succesfully navigated the course?"

Do I have the knoweldge and experience to help this person sucessfuly naviagate this path?

Am I setting the bar to high? Should I use an incrimental approach?

Long story short, I enforce maintaining a healthy weight. I develop workout plans for my sub/slave. I also walk and motivate a sub/slave through these routines on a daily basis. (I work out 5 times a week and dropped from 210 down to 175). I am a "take in hand mentor" type of Dom and I believe that sucess is easier to achieve when you have someone there to pick you up when you falter. If that doesn't work, my boot in your ass is as good a motivator as any![8|]


  



subtee -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/21/2008 12:10:28 PM)

~FR
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How many Dominants enforce weight control?


I should think it would just take one per sub.



BlueAngelSub -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/21/2008 3:30:47 PM)

I am curious as to how here are qualified to put someone on a wieght loss plan? I am not trying to be rude. I just want to know what thier medical and physcial training credential are.



pearlmoongirl -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/21/2008 3:44:58 PM)

*nods in agreement* This is my dilemma. So I need encouragement - I am finally healthy enough to do a really good exercise regime - and understanding that I literally cannot do dietary restrictions (I have Crohn's Disease). It seems like this might be difficult to negotiate, though.

~pmg 



Seniorwolf -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/21/2008 5:07:07 PM)

Well, since I spoke out earlier, I will answer you as to my credentials and methods.

First and foremost, before you put anyone on a workout routine or a diet you take them to a doctor first. You get a professional opion about proper weight, medical conditions, special situations, proper vitamin intake, allergies and things like that.

Once you have figured out all the no-nos, you then discuss what goasl you would like your sub to meet and what goals they would like to set for themselves. Understand, once you remove unrealistic goals and develop an understanding that this will be a on going experience and not a one shot fad diet, you can move forward with open eyes about exercise and diet.

Once the goals have been set, you can do two things. You can hire a nutritionist and a personal trainer or you can educate yourself. As far as physical training goes, I am into body building so I at least know the basics about exercise and what to eat. I also have a military background, as well as a martial arts back ground as well.

But I err on the side of caution, just because I know what a male can endure and how I lose weight does not make me an expert on women and thier exercise and nutrional needs needs. So, I would set up training for my sub and attend the training sessions with her. Keep a log of exercises that the trainer has her do, research the areas the exercise works and reasoning behind the movement. This can go into greater detail but I am sure you all get the jist of it.

As far as nutirition goes, I love to cook and I am a foodie. I have been counting calories and preparing food for my self for over 2 years now. I would see it as my duty to develop a regiment for my sub to follow nutrition wise. When someone can do that for you, it is one less stumbling block in the battle of the bulge.

In short my body building experience, common sense knowledge about hiring professionals, dietary knowledge and lvoe for food assists me in helping my sub in weight loss. I have the plan developed by professionals and supplement it with my own knowledge. But the most important thing is to keep and open and honest discouse going. This is not punishment or a D/s thing only. As a sub that is working out you need to exppress when you are hurt, in bodily duress or beyond fatigue. This is not a "play" session and should be taken seriously. Pushing a person to far to fast is dangerous. Target weight loss for anyone should be between 2-3 pounds per week.

Cheers,




shykitty1 -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/21/2008 5:32:29 PM)

i actually disagree with the concept of all can control their weight.  There are those of us that gained weight due to Medication and this takes the longest and is the hardest to lose.  Having a Master/Mistress that helps is not only a control thing it is also a motivation as well as a support system.



YourDomNow -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/21/2008 8:00:55 PM)

Honestly, I would agree with shykitty to a large degree.......weight has so many factors thrown into it, and is an individual thing....However, with that being said, weight "control" should be more like weight "motivation", and perhaps an incentive...perhaps for the sub , or perhaps for both parties involved.  Unfortunately, or fortunately, however one will look at it, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Weight, for some will always be an ongoing issue due to several reasons that they have themselves. For some, weight control is a good tool, but not a standard method that I would ever practice with anyone. Im quite sure, all of us have our own imperfections when we see and look at ourselves, no reason to look at our sub/slave and not know that of them.........just my thoughts
 



Seniorwolf -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/22/2008 6:14:44 AM)

quote:

i actually disagree with the concept of all can control their weight. There are those of us that gained weight due to Medication and this takes the longest and is the hardest to lose. Having a Master/Mistress that helps is not only a control thing it is also a motivation as well as a support system.


Shykitty,

I agree with you, not everyone can control their weight on their own. Predisone and other Cortisodial steriods make maintaining weight very difficult. I was on Predisone for 6 years after I was discharged from service. It made me balloon up from 160 to 230 lb-give or take a few pounds. Then add to the fact that I became a smoker, the odds were against me. But after a long hard road, I lost the weight and got into shape. But I may be the exception to the rule, I am a selfmotivator.

Diffrent senario, my father is two inches taller than me and weighs 230 lbs. He could not motivate himself to lose the weight so we started to workout together. It has been two months and he hals lost 20 lbs. He is a diabetic and has other helath issues but his doctor suggested working out to get help with his issues.

Having someone there to help push you through that last mile, rep or to get up and go in the morning is great aid for anyone. Also, having just ther to talk to when you gain back two pounds or miss a few days helps with the "I want to quit now" or "Whats the use" factor.



Seniorwolf -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/22/2008 6:21:48 AM)

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However, with that being said, weight "control" should be more like weight "motivation", and perhaps an incentive...perhaps for the sub , or perhaps for both parties involved. Unfortunately, or fortunately, however one will look at it, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Weight, for some will always be an ongoing issue due to several reasons that they have themselves. For some, weight control is a good tool, but not a standard method that I would ever practice with anyone. Im quite sure, all of us have our own imperfections when we see and look at ourselves, no reason to look at our sub/slave and not know that of them.........just my thoughts

Hopefully, weight control is being used in a situation where a person is either at risk health wise, requested it, talked about at length with your sub or because your sub says, "I hate my body...I fell so fat!" lol. Once the weight is off, it is easier to maintain but that is through education, and no you do not have to eat tasteless food for the rest of your life :)

As far as imperfections go and love, I would hope if anyone is with a sub that they aree physically/emotionally/mentally and sexually attracted to them as they are. If you get with someone who is any weight, I hope you care for them as they are but if you get with them with the intention of a complete physical overhaul... well, I think that has bad intention written all over it!

I "offer" or "enforce" it when my sub is gaining a lot of weight from being sedentary. If my sub came to me at 150 lbs then jumped to 180 due to the honeymoon period of love, then we need to have a talk but this also goes both ways:) I want to beable to fit into my leather pants.... they cost to much to buy new ones every new waist size



slavekahlan -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/22/2008 7:13:46 AM)

It is refresshing to see an openness when speaking of weight issues and what challenges may be encountered beyond aesthetics. Each person is unique and should not be categorized or criticized non constructively. It diminishes the person as well as the relationship.



variation30 -> RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? (4/22/2008 11:20:14 PM)

I most certainly would set and enforce a weight limit.



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