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"Aswad, now i am totally confused. i asked that specific question in another thread - about the safety of swallowing urine if the doms on meds and the consensus was it's safe - now in this thread it seems to swing the other way. Would it depend on what meds?" -- velvetears
I didn't see that thread, I think.
Short answer: yes, it depends, and in general you should ask your physician. If you'd be fine with taking the medicine in question yourself, I wouldn't worry, generally speaking.
Longer answer... The question is threefold. It is a problem if the medicine in question is excreted through the kidneys, and has active metabolites, and their activity is a problem for you. Otherwise, it's not a problem. Depending on the drug in question, long-term exposure may be more of a problem than short-term exposure. If you have specific meds in question, I can look them up for you, but I'd reccommend asking your physician, as I'm not a licenced health professional.
Amusing sidetrack... In some cultures, shamans would consume plants that contained a mix of drugs which would be very hard on the body, and the rest of the people would drink their urine, which would contain the desired drugs, but not the ones that were too hard to deal with for them. This can be done in modern times as well, for certain drugs, if you know enough about the pharmacology, either to increase the utilization of some very expensive drugs, or to legally share one with the partner. That falls under the heading of "Don't try this at home, kids" in general, though.
"For what it's worth, toilet service isn't super unusual, and no doubt any second LA will pop in with 25 links." -- Faramir
Seeing as she hasn't been in yet, I'll chime in:
The latter indicated that, for the most part, anything that can pass through your kidneys can pass into your saliva, as well, concluding that "if you french kiss you take about the same risk as drinking urine". Provided your partner is healthy and your own kidneys are working as they should, and you get enough other fluids, that is.
I noted a semi-official reply from one medical health authority to the effect that, while there has been little done in the way of studying the health implications directly, there is little to indicate a problem, and that HIV (specifically; HPV does pass through) cannot generally pass through urine in sufficient quantities to cause infection, for instance.
I try to master, for myself, whatever I'll be asking of my partners, and this is one of the things I've done for that reason. I hate male urine, but female urine is okay if she gets enough water. I don't engage in it anymore, but I wouldn't have a problem with it. I keep an eye on fluid intake, and on any signs of kidney problems, just to be on the safe side. I also know my own meds better than my docs do, so I know when I can safely require toilet service, when I can't, and when it's iffy. I also know how to do the shaman trick, but I wouldn't do it without asking first.
"Or, you could learn how to insert a foley catheter." -- windchymes
Veni, vidi, ~wince~.  "Now she wants me to drink the rest. I have a real problem with this. I just don't think it's safe. [...] I don't want her to not see me." -- pleaseteaseswitch
Ask your doctor what STDs and such can be contracted via urine. Suggest to her that she test for those. Insist that she tell you whether she's on any prescription meds. Explain your problem. If she can't talk it over with you, that's a bigger problem, safety-wise, than the urine itself is. You'll probably need to start slow anyway. Also, have your doctor perform (on you) the blood work for renal function on regular intervals; tell the doctor why you want this, so they can suggest an appropriate interval and get the right tests done. At 50, your chances of having issues with your kidneys are probably somewhat higher than e.g. mine. This way, you'll most likely catch any such issues before they become a problem. "Ok there is just something about a person who cannot even bother to get out of bed to use the bathroom that just screams.... I AM FUCKING LAZY!!!!!!... but that's just me." -- YourShyPet
Someone on CM once pointed out that it's one thing to be a slave when you're all hot and tingly and being asked to get down on all fours, but not so much when you get kicked out of bed at 5am to put on coffee and lay out clothes because the Dom/me is leaving for a meeting at 6am. Same thing goes for being woken at 4am to serve as a human urinal. As kyraofMists pointed out, this is no different from any other service a Dom/me may desire. It's got nothing to do with lazy. I can rub my own feet after walking all day, or I can tell mine to do it. I can get off on my own, or I can tell her to please me. "Pee is an acid and as such, can damage your insides if drank enough. What goes out isn't supposed to go back in." -- kinkychild18
There's no basis for the latter statement, and by that logic, oral sex would be a serious problem.
And, as for being an acid, that depends. Normally, it is a very weak acid. Which is a good thing. Acidity helps prevent certain urinary tract infections. In fact, some people suggest taking about 1000mg of vitamin C once or twice a day if you're engaged in anal sex, to reduce the risk of urinary tract infections. Coca Cola is a much stronger acid (about , and you'll need to leave a tooth in a glass of it for hours in order for it to dissolve the tooth. He's not asking her to keep it in her mouth for hours on end without swallowing.
In the toilet service thread, daddysprop commented that she has served as a human urinal every time her Master needed to "go" for years without any problem. My own experience has been that it's not a problem, either. But water consumption should be increased. And it will most likely take some getting used to. Learning to swallow it at the natural pace (i.e. as fast as it would normally come out) is what takes the greatest amount of time, but can be highly rewarding if one enjoys humiliation and/or objectification. That effectively makes the difference between indulging a kink that the Dom has, and being a practical and useful human urinal. I like it either way, but prefer the latter.
It will increase the workload for your own kidneys a bit, so you should get more fluids, and ideally have your doc take a blood sample once in a while to monitor the workload and such, at least if you're doing it "all the time". If your kidneys are "weak", or you think they might be, you should definitely ask the doc about this up front.
In short, as earthycouple said: A typically healthy person should have no trouble drinking the urine of a typically healthy person.
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We do." -- Rorschack, Watchmen.
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