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Pepsi - 6/2/2005 5:36:10 PM   
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Ok, i've had this interesting problem for AGES now. Though, really i am not concerned, just curious.

About a year ago, i stopped drinking pepsi cold turkey, switched to water. (atleast it seemed like the only change in diet)

And wham. My stomach was an unhappy place. Within 20 minutes of eating anything, if i wasnt in the bathroom i was having major chills and feeling ultra yucky. It went on like that for awhile. Then it started slowing down. i could wait an hour or so. Then maybe after a month it would only show up sometimes.

It seems that when i start drinking pepsi regular my stomach goes to its un happy place for a few days and when i stop drinking pepsi it goes to its unhappy place. Sometimes out of the BLUE it'll go to its unhappy place.

Right now i am drinking pepsi again regular, (for the week anyways) And it seems to be okay. Its an on and off thing for my stomach. Happy, non happy. Sometimes it seems that if i drink pepsi and eat a meal, my stomach is unhappy. i suppose i could stop drinking pepsi for months and see if it goes to being happy all the time. BUT i love pepsi. And its a great way to kill any extra weight i feel i might have put on. (terrible i know, but ask me if i care)

So my question is. Does anyone think pepsi has like DONE something to my stomach? Or is my body like "withdrawling" from the pepsi? Really, i just cant figure out why my stomach is terribly unhappy sometimes, only slightly unhappy at other times, and happy sometimes. Anyone have any clue or suggestions (other then rush out to the doc, as i've already had that suggestion and i could care less to do so, as its not something that affects my life to any great degree)

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RE: Pepsi - 6/2/2005 6:16:57 PM   
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It's probably caffeine withdrawl...

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RE: Pepsi - 6/2/2005 7:45:51 PM   
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Ever get checked out for an ulcer? The acid in the soda could be triggering it now and then.

On another note. A friend of mine just had lap band surgery same as gastric but reversable. She used to be a diet soda junkie...at least a 2 litre bottle a day.
Ever since the band went on no more soda. She says it gives her painful gas. Like it can't stay down because of the bubbles. Don't know, that is how she explains it.


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RE: Pepsi - 6/2/2005 11:20:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

And wham. My stomach was an unhappy place. Within 20 minutes of eating anything, if i wasnt in the bathroom i was having major chills and feeling ultra yucky. It went on like that for awhile. Then it started slowing down. i could wait an hour or so. Then maybe after a month it would only show up sometimes.
I have this but it's from having my gallbladder removed. The bile that dumps into my stomach causes me to have immediate displeasure if I eat something fatty, 20 mins if it's just a little greasy and sometimes an hr. What you're describing sounds like an acid problem to me. I've heard sodas are highly acidic. Soda doesn't trigger the bile let down for me though.

And its a great way to kill any extra weight i feel i might have put on. (terrible i know, but ask me if i care)
Assuming it's not diet, how does it "kill" the weight?
So my question is. Does anyone think pepsi has like DONE something to my stomach? Or is my body like "withdrawling" from the pepsi?



Ok, first of all: Do you drink other sodas, coffee, tea? If so, and these have no ill effects: it's not the caffeine
Secondly: Can you figure out if this is limited to the pepsi? Can you log what happens when you ONLY drink it and don't eat until you feel the symptoms? If you can't give up the juice you've got to at least determine if it is the juice. If you drink it, wait, then eat and feel it your 'experiment' is blown. I don't know how long it takes to 'digest' fluids but I would think your stomach would pump that through in under an hour easy.
Lastly, the pepsi could only 'do' something short term other than the caffeine withdrawl. It's corn syrup (unless diet), and carbonated water. Try drinking a caffeine free soda and see what happens. Maybe it's the carbonation? I don't know if carbonation can do that. The bypass surgery or lapband surgery requires you go off carbonation because you could potentially get major gas from it and with a pouch for a stomach, you can't tolerate much gas. Gas pains shouldn't have that effect on you as above. I get the chills and almost naseua, cramping bordering on pain etc but not from gas.

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RE: Pepsi - 6/2/2005 11:46:01 PM   
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It's probably caffeine withdrawl...


i've wondered that....

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Ever get checked out for an ulcer? The acid in the soda could be triggering it now and then.


No i havent been checked. And i've wondered if it was the acid. i ate spagetti one night and my stomach got unhappy. Not terribly unhappy, it just revoked the foods priviledge to be in my stomach. Course i ate spagetti another night and no issue. Master thinks its lactose intolerant. i dont. i've eaten cheese latelyl and been fine.

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Like it can't stay down because of the bubbles.


Well, i suppose i didnt elaborate enough. It doesnt come back up. It rushes through my system. And i dont think its the bubbles.

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Assuming it's not diet, how does it "kill" the weight?


Well, if what ever i'm eating, rushes through my system before it even has a chance to digest. Then i've absorbed no calories. i've aborbed nothing. Basically a way to cheat and starve yourself, by lying to your body that you have eaten. AND plus if i all of a sudden stop drinking the load of pepsi i do, and then cant keep any food in me, i'm double timing when it comes to loss of weight. When it first started, it actually killed about 10 or so lbs i had gained during an illness i had that summer. Plus i also learned not to eat, as eating was just way not worth it.

LOL basically it starves yourself. Terribly unhealthy i know.

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Ok, first of all: Do you drink other sodas, coffee, tea?


Dont really drink other sodas, love tea though. It helped allievate it. Though it hasnt been a constant issue in my life recently. Its been striking randomly. Though and it does seem to have no rhyme or reason.

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when you ONLY drink it and don't eat until you feel the symptoms


Okay, its no like when i drink pepsi. Its like when i havent drank pepsi in 3 days (atleast thats what it was a couple of months ago when i was playing around with the idea tht it was pepsi) And then i drink a pepsi. Or i've been drinking a few cans a day for a few days straight and then all of a sudden stop. Usually it can take half a day or a day to start. And its NOT always when i drink and eat. Just sometimes.

Switching over to caffiene free soda (which i've done when i've run out of pepsi) Doesnt give me issues. Really, there isnt much rhythme or reason to it.

But what seems constant is if i just continually drink pepsi like i normally would. If i just continued drinking it, my stomach would be pretty much okay.

i suppose the answer to my questions all lie in creating a log

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RE: Pepsi - 6/3/2005 5:13:19 AM   
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I don't know the answer to your question, but I'm definately a Pepsi addict. I can get through the withdrawals (three days of migraine), and be doing great, but eventually, I hear it calling my name. :::sigh:::



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RE: Pepsi - 6/3/2005 5:52:02 AM   
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I quit drinking coca cola cold turkey 6 months ago. I still get cravings for it. Once a long long time ago I saw a tv show on how pepsi was secretly addictive and the harm it caused. That show never saw daylight again and I think shows or articles on that subject get squashed before seeing daylight. There is no nutritional value in soda, you need to quit drinking it for good.

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RE: Pepsi - 6/3/2005 3:12:58 PM   
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No i havent been checked. And i've wondered if it was the acid. i ate spagetti one night and my stomach got unhappy. Not terribly unhappy, it just revoked the foods priviledge to be in my stomach. Course i ate spagetti another night and no issue. Master thinks its lactose intolerant. i dont. i've eaten cheese latelyl and been fine.


I'd get checked for an ulcer but I'd also opt for too much stress in your diet.

I have the same identical issue as you are having. It is stress related. When my mom died 3 years ago I had 2 of my nephews full time. Dealing with the stress of losing her..and taking care of her stuff. One nephew was a drug addict waiting to happen. So overnight I basically had to re-arrange my life so I was home when he left for school in the morning and when he came home. During this same time my sister was dying of cancer.
Anyway, to make what could be a very long story short. My sister died three month's later...from the day mom died I was having issues keeping anything down. It came out one way or the other.
Three days after my sister died my brother was feeling alone or some crap. Allowed the boys to come visit. Kept my problem child. Instantly my pains went away and I was keeping food down.
Now, its been three year's since and at different times I still have issues. Almost like you are at your breaking point...then it backs off.
Your spaghetti analogy is what made me think of myself. I can eat something all of the time...then one time I can't hold it down. Bizarre because it is the food I eat all of the time.

So, de-stress get out and exercise. Read a book. Whatever it takes if you're under that much. Just assuming of course.
You're working towards an ulcer. I know I am...but all my doctor keeps telling me is de-stress. Easy to say, much harder to do.

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RE: Pepsi - 6/3/2005 5:05:00 PM   
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Dear Gloria (sub4hire),

I feel so bad that you lost your mom and sister. I can't even imagine the emotional toll that must take. That is really really rough. I have often sensed a kind of hostility in some of your posts that seemed so at odds with other of your posts. I guess it is the stress coming out. Have you ever had the problem of a Dr talking down to you since you are a woman patient? Hopefully in your case the Dr ruled out physical causes. I think women get told alot that it is in their head, or they are emotional or under stress when there are actual physical causes. If you ever want to chat feel free to email me.

Sincerely,
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RE: Pepsi - 6/3/2005 5:07:32 PM   
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I'm with Gloria here. I would say that your problems are stress related and have nothing to do with the Pepsi you drink except that the Pepsi may aggravate the problem.
Speaking of Pepsi, I tried that Pepsi One with Splenda. I didn't like like it. It was way too sweet. I think they did too good of a job making it taste like regular Pepsi. Who knew?

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RE: Pepsi - 6/3/2005 10:26:15 PM   
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It isn't hostility it is little patience for people who do not know how to read.
Also the fact I am an honest person. If people here knew how to read they would'nt idolize the pathological liars here on the board.
A liar hurts people, plain and simple. They cannot be trusted. That is my pet peeve, call it hostility if you'd like.


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RE: Pepsi - 6/4/2005 2:03:14 AM   
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hey all

thanks for the replies. Gloria, i'm sorry about your losses = (

i've never actually thought about stress. Though i know stress can do many many things. Like make you're hair fall out, or even kill you. It's the biggest thing i worry about with my Dad. So i know it can be a bad thing. But i've never erm thought about it in regards to myself.

Now, i'm about to sound completely clueless......

Anyone want to educate me on stress? How one can tell if they are stressed? How to destress?

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RE: Pepsi - 6/4/2005 7:37:03 AM   
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Anyone want to educate me on stress? How one can tell if they are stressed? How to destress?


You just said you worry about your dad. That is stress. What do you worry about? Do you have certain duties that put a strain on you like you're never going to get done?

Anything that makes you feel rushed, or anxiety. For myself, I'm in complete control of things and always have been. I take life with a grain of salt. However, when life throws so much at you at one time...it gets a bit much.
I run my own BDSM group, self esteem class...work full time. Take care of two homes. An ailing father now. A dom who doesn't like going to the doctor for his own good.

Although to me that is life. Yes, it is more than most have on their tables. When I go for a massage the therapists always tell me they have never met anyone with shoulders as tight as mine. People handle stress better than other's. Some crumble.
I bet you're handling yours quite well, to the point you're not even realizing you have it, correct?

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RE: Pepsi - 6/5/2005 1:14:37 AM   
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As for me and stress. No comparision. As for anxiety, i've tons of it. Tense? From my neck, to shoulders, to upper back is completely tight and full of ropes. Though i doubt anyone can tell from here, i am usually uptight, tense, and full of anxiety. Yeah i do worry. Somoetimes i feel like i'd just like to lose my head. Just for alittle bit, free myself = ) Especially when it all just wants to come down and i'm struggling not to let it. Like now. Heh, it keeps trying too. And no, i doubt i deal with life's crap very well. i just dont call it stress = )

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RE: Pepsi - 6/5/2005 10:13:04 AM   
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We all read things our own way. I call it hostility because that is how it comes across to me. I am not sure what you are referring to about idolizing pathological liars on the forum boards. So we won't call it hostility , we will call it a pet peeve..... I was wondering if you view the forums as fun and relaxing or as a place to vent and for catharsis?

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RE: Pepsi - 6/5/2005 11:41:30 AM   
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It sounds to me like you have several things going on at once, and they may be hard to disentangle.

Caffeine addiction and withdrawal may well be part of it.

Also stress.

Could also be some physical cause to it as well.

I don't know if you can find this stuff down there in florida, but it's worth checking the specialty shops for, I've never found anything that comes close to it for easing the stomach and promoting good digestion. In a pinch a little bicarbonate of soda dissolved in a glass of water with a squirt of lemon juice helps quite a bit too.

A little bit of milk, or some hot herbal tea can also have a wonderful tonic effect on the irritable stomach. Some of the better herbs to try for this include licorice, angelica, comfrey, peppermint, and dandelion root. There are many others, experiment a bit with whatever is available.

In the long run, if I were you I'd get off the caffeine completely and stay off it. Work on the diet, some things are going to help and others hurt. Reducing stress and/or improving your coping mechanisms may be a big help too.

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RE: Pepsi - 6/5/2005 1:11:03 PM   
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Thanks i'll take all that into consideration. Maybe its also a lack of food? i'm seriously gonna try and keep a log. i think yesterday i ate..... a granola bar and.... O mac n cheese with tuna in it w/peas Oh and some cake last night. Today, about an hour ago i hate a grilled cheese sandwhich. Lack of food, stress, too much pepsi? <grins> What a complex answer. Course it could be something physical, like some intestinal bug (LOLOLOL) but i doubt it would of survived this long in a stomach filled mostly with pepsi. It'd of had caffiene shock by now. = )

Thanks all. i'm gonna do a food log and see if i can detect a pattern. Heck why not?

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RE: Pepsi - 6/6/2005 7:10:54 AM   
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As for me and stress. No comparision. As for anxiety, i've tons of it. Tense? From my neck, to shoulders, to upper back is completely tight and full of ropes. Though i doubt anyone can tell from here, i am usually uptight, tense, and full of anxiety. Yeah i do worry. Somoetimes i feel like i'd just like to lose my head. Just for alittle bit, free myself = ) Especially when it all just wants to come down and i'm struggling not to let it. Like now. Heh, it keeps trying too. And no, i doubt i deal with life's crap very well. i just dont call it stress = )


That is exactly what it is. Go to your doctor, describe the same thing. He will tell you to de-stress. I honestly don't know how to tell you to get rid of it fast and easy when it is back daily.
Some people do yoga. Some take self defense classes so they can hit people and things.
Myself, I'll go work out in the gym harder. I'm real competitive when it comes to that.
I can life more than most men. Of course that doesn't mean when I come back home it isn't home. You just need to figure out what works for you. Hanging out with friends?
The list could go on and on. Obviously if you cannot hold food down you're near the breaking point.


kisshous, as I've already said. Call it whatever you like...frankly I don't care what other's think of me here. If you find it so hostile please do block me.
I've never even seen your name before this post...so I've no clue how you speak let alone to form an opinion.

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RE: Pepsi - 6/6/2005 11:48:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kisshou

We all read things our own way. I call it hostility because that is how it comes across to me. I am not sure what you are referring to about idolizing pathological liars on the forum boards. So we won't call it hostility , we will call it a pet peeve..... I was wondering if you view the forums as fun and relaxing or as a place to vent and for catharsis?



Hhmmm I just think you're reading Gloria wrong. Which is really a shame. Cause you won't find a more honest, straight forward, no non-sense kind of sub with the experience she has on these boards.

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RE: Pepsi - 6/6/2005 12:52:46 PM   
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feline,

thanks for your input , i was not saying she seemed hostile as a put down so i apologize for coming across that way. It is coincidental that lately I have been thinking about the forums and how when I first joined , I thought this will be great, it will be fun, I will get to share experiences with other slaves, read how other Dominants do things, compare others experiences to my own. Then somehow I had gotten so serious about everything. I am a type A, overachiever, driven , ultra competitive and that was overtaking any sense of fun/relaxation of the forum experience. That is why I asked how she viewed the forums. I am really sorry

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