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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/26/2007 3:15:28 PM

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Hello again. This time I am replying to your thread. Is this typical? No. But frequent enough to make me doubt about those person's orientations in lifestyles.

A lot of people here understand about "closet BDSM people", who live the vanilla lifestyle. There may be a counterpart to this in BDSM, for some people look a lot like "closet vanillas" in the "perception" departement, especially with "high intensity" TPE.

What I mean, is they may be looking at you from the "vanilla" point of view.

You should put your focus on how many E-Mails you did not recieve from the rest of us. Most of us understand "consensual" TPE dynamics and do not jump to conclusions.

Dont forget, it's only "projection". You do not have to reciprocate, with your own. That would not be very "domly", dont you think? RL.

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/26/2007 7:59:26 PM

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To the OP..ach! maybe she wanted you for herself..but you as her submissive instead?..

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/27/2007 12:04:29 AM

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Hello akbarbarian.

I know what you mean. I get it from both sides. Because the kinky sex aspct of our relationship is of minimal importance, I have been told that I am really only vanilla. And becuase our relationship is 24/7 TPE, people say we're way over the top and I'm sick or incompetent to let Master control every aspect of my life. I guess we're not kinky enough for the BDSMers, and too M/s for the 'nillas.

I've also had comments that I am fake because I have my profile and our couples profile - HisChatelaine. Ot that I'm not really submissive if I won't meet with anyone who claimes to be a dom and do whatever he wants. I have even had one e-mail that said I was obviously a transexual. I was real confused about that one.

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/27/2007 12:24:10 AM

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I wrote back, and she seems to like me now. This is what I replied to her with.
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Or perhaps in thinking opinions are all one has left in a M/s relationship, awareness of one's assets are lacking by thinking a person must be heard at all times and at all costs. In silence, and by listening, new things can be discovered. When one allows their pride in their own ideas to relax, and the mind to become calm, awareness of one's self can be found through reflection and even, dare I say it, find humility there which seems highly important to me in a M/s situation. Without succumbing to that urge to confront and report, this new virtue can be found and that's just for starters. But why ask me, why don't you dare to ask the one who will really know how it is? Her opinions do matter, which is precicely why it's important to me that she be at peace with what I choose for us, not just in her actions, but also in her words and mind. It would sadden me to see her unhappy, and if she learns patience with my ways and holds her tounge in order to understand them, she may yet learn to be happy with them. slaveofKaos is her handle on here, and will likely know better than I what it is like for her.

If I'm really so vile as it sounds like you think of me, why not post a thread? Do you really care what I think?

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/27/2007 10:50:50 AM

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Having read the profile, but not the other thread that others have mentioned, I do have to wonder what inspired the email you mentioned to begin with. If it's the truth, it's the truth, and doesn't effect anyone other than those that you're interacting with.

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/27/2007 11:29:12 AM

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I'm with Magik's slave. I haven't read your profile and am not at all inspired to do so by some of your recent postings. Possibly the writer doesn't object to M/s relationships so much as to the way you presented what it is you want in a slave.

And if it is that your recent postings inaccurately represent you, who but yourself is to blame for that? However, just like Magik's slave, I can't be arsed to read profiles of people I form negative opinions of.

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/27/2007 5:44:45 PM

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As for myself, if I don't get flamed at least once in a while, I don't feel like I'm doing my best!

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/28/2007 12:59:13 PM

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I'm with Magik's slave. I haven't read your profile and am not at all inspired to do so by some of your recent postings. Possibly the writer doesn't object to M/s relationships so much as to the way you presented what it is you want in a slave.

And if it is that your recent postings inaccurately represent you, who but yourself is to blame for that? However, just like Magik's slave, I can't be arsed to read profiles of people I form negative opinions of.

Exactly, It can be a major turn off to read something that seems so totaly un realistic, but as I said it is up to the person to find out what they want can only remain a fantasy it isnt for me to tell them aspecially if I wasnt asked.. and if its a stranger well i dont care enough to go out of my way to tell them something they dont want to hear and will probubly come to an open forum and blast me about!!

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/28/2007 1:19:28 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: robertolapiedra

Hello again. This time I am replying to your thread. Is this typical? No. But frequent enough to make me doubt about those person's orientations in lifestyles.

A lot of people here understand about "closet BDSM people", who live the vanilla lifestyle. There may be a counterpart to this in BDSM, for some people look a lot like "closet vanillas" in the "perception" departement, especially with "high intensity" TPE.

What I mean, is they may be looking at you from the "vanilla" point of view.

You should put your focus on how many E-Mails you did not recieve from the rest of us. Most of us understand "consensual" TPE dynamics and do not jump to conclusions.

Dont forget, it's only "projection". You do not have to reciprocate, with your own. That would not be very "domly", dont you think? RL.

"Good""answer". "Don't""let""this""junk""mail""get""to""you".

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/30/2007 8:02:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: MissOchistic

quote:

ORIGINAL: robertolapiedra

Hello again. This time I am replying to your thread. Is this typical? No. But frequent enough to make me doubt about those person's orientations in lifestyles.

A lot of people here understand about "closet BDSM people", who live the vanilla lifestyle. There may be a counterpart to this in BDSM, for some people look a lot like "closet vanillas" in the "perception" departement, especially with "high intensity" TPE.

What I mean, is they may be looking at you from the "vanilla" point of view.

You should put your focus on how many E-Mails you did not recieve from the rest of us. Most of us understand "consensual" TPE dynamics and do not jump to conclusions.

Dont forget, it's only "projection". You do not have to reciprocate, with your own. That would not be very "domly", dont you think? RL.

"Good""answer". "Don't""let""this""junk""mail""get""to""you".

-"Miss Ochistic"

I've heard of spelling nazis before, but this sets a new high water mark "." Or is it? Maybe somthing will come and eat all those periods. Maybe they are Pac-Man dots in disguise. (<............ Maybe these words are really a blonde in a red dress.

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/30/2007 11:28:24 AM

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HUH???

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/30/2007 11:39:33 AM

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I have not read all the responses but I think the thing you need to concentrate on is how ok you are with your needs. If you are fine with them, who cares what anyone else has to say? At the end of the day, what matters is how you feel and how the person(s) you are with feels.

Most people get some type of hate mail. I get the most absurd ones

"You're a bitch because you won't take on married men"
"You be just a woman, you ain't gonna be able to control no one" (usually with that type of grammar too)
"You are disgusting, why would you mar your body with ugly tatoos?"
yadda yadda

Everyone has an opinion. If you can learn from someone else and it affects the way you think about whatever, more power to you. If you can see another's point of view and do not change your opinion, more power to you. Don't sweat it, though. You have no reason to justify your personal beliefs and desires to anyone else unless you want to. If they don't like it, oh well. That's life.

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/30/2007 4:30:06 PM

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I have not read all the responses but I think the thing you need to concentrate on is how ok you are with your needs. If you are fine with them, who cares what anyone else has to say? At the end of the day, what matters is how you feel and how the person(s) you are with feels.

Most people get some type of hate mail. I get the most absurd ones

"You're a bitch because you won't take on married men"
"You be just a woman, you ain't gonna be able to control no one" (usually with that type of grammar too)
"You are disgusting, why would you mar your body with ugly tatoos?"
yadda yadda

Everyone has an opinion. If you can learn from someone else and it affects the way you think about whatever, more power to you. If you can see another's point of view and do not change your opinion, more power to you. Don't sweat it, though. You have no reason to justify your personal beliefs and desires to anyone else unless you want to. If they don't like it, oh well. That's life.

Well, I was a hate-mail virgin. Anyway, it seems the person who sent it likes me now and at some point we may all go out and meet in person. The way she put it was very interesting after she came to terms with why she said those things, and discussed it with me:

"most judgements have way more to do with the person that is making them, than the person who is being judged"

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/30/2007 4:38:15 PM

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P.S. Those are some wicked tattoos, especially the one on your neck, and I'm generally not a fan of tattoos per se unless they say "Welcome to Fantasy Island", then, maybe, ok.

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/30/2007 4:46:07 PM

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Who's tattoos? I perved MsKats profile and didn't see any lol.

As to your OP, I haven't received any hate mail here. I can only imagine the weird shock at receiving the first one especially since you've been here awhile without having had one before.

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 6/30/2007 4:56:23 PM

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Who's tattoos? I perved MsKats profile and didn't see any lol.

As to your OP, I haven't received any hate mail here. I can only imagine the weird shock at receiving the first one especially since you've been here awhile without having had one before.

Her profile shows several of her tattoos, if you click the forward button to see the next pics. Yes, getting the first hate mail was kind of shocking. I'm glad I was able to turn it around, and really, I'm rather surprised to have made friends in a situation like that. Go me!

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 7/2/2007 7:33:32 PM

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I didn't read all the replies on this post.
That being what it may, I don't let those kinds of things bother me, this is just the internet after all. Unless it was someone I wanted to converse with in the present or future, I wouldn't have taken the time to acknowledge that I recieved it no less given a response to it...unless instructed to do so.
Everyone has an opinion, which one matters? For me there's only one that does.

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 7/2/2007 10:51:27 PM

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Hate mail. Gotta love it. And laugh at it. And show it to all your friends so they can laugh at it too.

I've only gotten one hate mail from someone I'd never even heard of, and it was one line. It said, "Boy, are you ugly!" I actually felt sorry for the person who sent it.

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RE: Is this typical hating on M/s couples here? - 7/3/2007 1:13:12 AM

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"....I'm not trying to be a bitch...."

Don't you just love people who use lines like this when they flame someone? She went to the trouble of sending a message, using some very intense language and made all kinds of accusations... but she wasn't trying to be a bitch? Imagine how well she'd do if she put some effort into it!

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