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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/13/2007 4:16:37 PM   
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Wonderful Master shall we pick up a chainsaw the next we are at the store? ;)


Sure thing. But I'm not sure I want to play with it.


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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/13/2007 4:43:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I enjoy being punched by my dom. But tbh it is just play-punching, like a slap. I like it right across the cheek. It makes me feel secure. I don't think I'd enjoy a stomach punch though. It's too near my vital organs.

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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/13/2007 5:50:54 PM   
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Sure thing. But I'm not sure I want to play with it.


You will not have to Master. i am going to play whit the chainsaw, you will just have to run and scream. ;)

May i wish you well.


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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/13/2007 5:56:06 PM   
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Can we all please just let this thread die? It's all been said by now.

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ORIGINAL: bondageangel22

I enjoy being punched by my dom. But tbh it is just play-punching, like a slap. I like it right across the cheek. It makes me feel secure. I don't think I'd enjoy a stomach punch though. It's too near my vital organs.


Your #1 vital organ is your brain, which is less than a handsbreadth from your cheek.
It is also very poorly cushioned against a blow, even a slap.

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ORIGINAL: nephandi

You will not have to Master. i am going to play whit the chainsaw, you will just have to run and scream. ;)


Ah. I see.
That's not so good.
Bad girl, no chainsaw for you.


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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/13/2007 5:57:59 PM   
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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/13/2007 6:41:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's a lotta punchin, those 35 pages or whatever. You're gonna look like popeye.


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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/13/2007 7:31:47 PM   
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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/13/2007 7:41:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		No punch for me, please. Maybe just a nice wine cooler. *G*

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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/14/2007 5:05:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Although i love erotic pain, whips etc i cannot stand someone punching me on my stomach!that hurts so much and may can bring damage to stomach!

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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/14/2007 9:09:36 AM   
nephandi


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quote:

Ah. I see.
That's not so good.
Bad girl, no chainsaw for you.


But Mater i really want one!

May i wish you well


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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/14/2007 3:54:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		i was thinking about the original original topic...not just punching, but punching in the stomach....and i have to say that if someone wants to punch me in the stomach...s/he better be into being on the recieving end of a vomit fetish...

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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/15/2007 11:46:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		A lot of this is context.  In most cases I do not think a submissive would be prepared for a blow to the stomach.  In most cases I think this would be very unwise.  But let us consider that a huge amount of sceneplay is setting up to do things which are in normal context somewhat dangerous.

Many sports involve hitting people.  Various martial arts involve hard strikes, as of course does boxing. Other sports such as football involve heavy contact that approximates this sort of striking, sometimes with padding, but in many cases with minimal padding.  These things are not intrinsically unsafe when done with controlled force, to people who are antcipating them and know how to react to them.

It is perfectly fine for an individual to choose not to do these things, just as they might say "I would not do knife play," or "I would not use a single-tail."  It is perfectly fine to say "people doing these things should make every effort to do them safely so as not to entail permanent harm."

I think it is a matter of how important it is to the people playing and the scene.  If someone chooses to do it, they should do it safely.

I'll add that I think that to rule such play out has antecedents that are rather sexist, considering we don't rule it out in (principally male dominated) sports. 



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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/19/2007 8:49:29 PM   
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so basically its a "fight club" scenerio. i wish to be a tension release for my Dom, but truly a punchingbag, never.


I more prefer wrestling.   The problem with punching is when you have bone against bone impact, generally the larger, stronger, thicker bone wins.

Punch somebody in the face, these bones tend to break and make the person look funny.

Punch somebody in the hip bones, welcome to broken hand bones.

Punch somebody hard enough in the spleen, it pops and the resulting perotinitis might be fatal.

I have been punched and kicked hard over the years many, many times.  It no longer pisses me off when I get clocked, I roll with it.  But I dont really have much desire to actually haul off and punch somebody else.

What I more prefer to do is use a leg lock, head control, or other type of immobilising pin, and then do things to my partner.  No ropes, no chains, no nothing.  She is simply hooked in a scissors pin and spanked silly, pinned to the floor and forced to orally please me, required to deal with lots of orgasms, etc.

Guess it works for me.

Sinergy

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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/19/2007 9:27:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Poppygirl

so basically its a "fight club" scenerio. i wish to be a tension release for my Dom, but truly a punchingbag, never.


I more prefer wrestling.   The problem with punching is when you have bone against bone impact, generally the larger, stronger, thicker bone wins.

Punch somebody in the face, these bones tend to break and make the person look funny.

Punch somebody in the hip bones, welcome to broken hand bones.

Punch somebody hard enough in the spleen, it pops and the resulting perotinitis might be fatal.

I have been punched and kicked hard over the years many, many times.  It no longer pisses me off when I get clocked, I roll with it.  But I dont really have much desire to actually haul off and punch somebody else.

What I more prefer to do is use a leg lock, head control, or other type of immobilising pin, and then do things to my partner.  No ropes, no chains, no nothing.  She is simply hooked in a scissors pin and spanked silly, pinned to the floor and forced to orally please me, required to deal with lots of orgasms, etc.

Guess it works for me.

Sinergy

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hmm...D/s punching for fun and pleasure...interesting...have to say that such a possibility honestly never occured to me, before reading some of the replies on this thread. in my (admittedly limited) experiences, punching, kicking and the like has always been about 1 of 2 things: physical punishment for the slave, or physical tension release for the Master (i.e. "punching bag"), that's it.

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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/20/2007 10:08:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

hmm...D/s punching for fun and pleasure...interesting...have to say that such a possibility honestly never occured to me, before reading some of the replies on this thread. in my (admittedly limited) experiences, punching, kicking and the like has always been about 1 of 2 things: physical punishment for the slave, or physical tension release for the Master (i.e. "punching bag"), that's it.


He might actually enjoy it. As might you, depending on what he's enjoying.

For me, the knowledge of how the joints move and their range of motion is an excellent way to allow my partner to struggle quite freely, not feeling outright restrained, while still preventing their struggles from actually having any effect with a bare minimum of effort. And, if I do want actual restraint, joint locks are an excellent way of doing just that. The things I will be doing are not nearly as painful as successfully escaping a lock (which will generally involve breaking, tearing or dislocating something). If I want to go past that level, I'll use more effective locks, or regular restraints, so as to prevent injury.

Martial arts are great tools for both sex and BDSM.
Even the breathing and centering bits are useful.
Without those, I'd never be able to enjoy the responses to hours of dry anal sex, for instance.


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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/20/2007 10:42:48 AM   
nephandi


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That do not always work whit me and my very loose joints. i can often slip out of your holds. Witch leads me to what i wanted to say. i think that if punsching is to be safe, the Dominant must know both a bit about the human body, and also know his or her slave, as some pepole, like me may have abnormal joints or a weakness somwere.

May i wish you well


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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/20/2007 11:22:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aswad


He might actually enjoy it. As might you, depending on what he's enjoying.




haha....i can say with confidence that he would not find any enjoyment in my resisting him in any way. in fact, he has worked hard in conditioning and training me to be just the opposite..."no resistance" was a mantra drilled into me long ago. this applies to him, others he has me serve, as well as other real life situations (i.e. some stranger attempts to rob or rape me). He feels that to have a submissive/slave who is trained to be totally compliant at some times, yet to resist at others, sends a confusing message...it's just not his thing.

the only time i am permitted to express some tiny semblance of resistance is when he tickles me (He is the Tickle Master)...then i am allowed to squirm and wiggle and gasp without being a bad girl.


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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/20/2007 3:57:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nephandi

That do not always work whit me and my very loose joints. i can often slip out of your holds.


Quite true. That said, restraining you works a lot better with technique than without.

Witch leads me to what i wanted to say. i think that if punsching is to be safe, the Dominant must know both a bit about the human body, and also know his or her slave, as some pepole, like me may have abnormal joints or a weakness somwere.

Yes, it's generally a good idea to have a full workover at a doctor at some point when one is into BDSM. Just peg down any problem areas, whether it's a delicate sternum, insipid diabetes, loose joints, asthma, or whatever. Makes it a lot easier to avoid the problems along the way.

Knowing the anatomy is of course also an important element of the risk equation. The more you know of the anatomy, and the more specific information about that specific recipient, the less the associated risks will be.


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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/20/2007 4:02:01 PM   
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haha....i can say with confidence that he would not find any enjoyment in my resisting him in any way. in fact, he has worked hard in conditioning and training me to be just the opposite..."no resistance" was a mantra drilled into me long ago. this applies to him, others he has me serve, as well as other real life situations (i.e. some stranger attempts to rob or rape me).


Ah, yes, that's right. I forgot. I can see why he'd want to do that.

quote:


the only time i am permitted to express some tiny semblance of resistance is when he tickles me (He is the Tickle Master)...then i am allowed to squirm and wiggle and gasp without being a bad girl.


Hehe. My nephandi is so ticklish I think I would need two grown men to sit on her in order not to get my ribs kicked in or something if I start really tickling. The squirming from a lighter touch, however, can be quite entertaining. And I get how that is a quite different mindspace; I don't know any males who don't like occasionally tickling their partner. I think it's probably an instinct of some sort, or wired from how we are raised from the baby stage onwards, like parents tickling the baby, which seems popular among the parents I have seen.


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RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 7/25/2007 7:08:42 PM   
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I was kicked, punched and slapped across the face by my last master, and loved it. In my situation it was not done to an extreme, or to inflict pain, nor was it done to any vital areas. Yet it served its purpose... it allowed me to realize that yes he could do anything, that I would react completely differently then I would have ever expected, and it served to put me in my placed instantly...

And ... wow the way it was done, I wanted more, use to love how deeply submissive I felt milliseconds afterwards.

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